Sven wrote:
"Agamemnon" wrote in message
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I have not intention of paying over £100
You can get a set for around half that price.

per set to replace them with something worse than medium wave.
DAB is nothing like medium wave, it doesn't fade, it doesn't suffer
from foreign broadcasts and interference in the evenings. It isn't as
good as FM (in a good signal area, on a decent tuner) in its present
form, only because the broadcasters are using too little bandwidth.

I agree that its not time to dump FM radio's yet (we are far from
that day IMO) first DAB needs much more bandwidth allocated to it, so
that DAB can perform like it was intended to. Then the coverage
needs to be improved to ensure it can be received reliably on set-top
telescopic aerials and in the car. Reception is pathetic in some
areas. These issues need addressing before anyone suggests we should
dump FM.

Where I live it's impossible to get any DAB reception.
--
Adrian A

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DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
Sven wrote:

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I have not intention of paying over £100

You can get a set for around half that price.


I wouldn't mind a small DAB radio and cost isn't really a issue but they
all look ugly and old-fashioned.
Modern hi-tech gadget and they make it look like something from the 1960s.
Why is that?

To justify the high price they try and make the radios look expensive, and
by doing so they look old fashioned. i.e.: wooden cases(mock wooden?). They
are trying to harp back to the days when radios and televisions were
expensive, luxury, quality items. That's my theory anyway.

Stewart Smith wrote:
OldBill wrote:

I wouldn't mind a small DAB radio and cost isn't really a issue but
they all look ugly and old-fashioned.
Modern hi-tech gadget and they make it look like something from the
1960s. Why is that?

There is the "Bug" or whatever it's called. The one that was
designed by Wayne Hemingway.


That's the ulgiest of the whole lot!


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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
All my FM radios sound far better than my DAB radios, so why on
earth would they be obsolete?

It specifically mentioned FM/MW/LW/SW and battery operated - not
just FM. And since FM is poor for long distance reception, it's
unlikely to be used much except in large towns where mains would be
available.


Look at the thread title: "obsolite [sic] non-DAB radios". What
percentage of non-DAB radios don't have FM on them?

Vastly more than FM only.


What PERCENTAGE?


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Lee Donaghy wrote in
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I thought the batteries cost a years wages and that's why that baylis
bloke made the wind up radio for them.

Ain't tthat the truth? I'd forgotten the huge fuss the Beeb made about
those.

And considering I had an effective Thorens clockwork razor in the 60s, it
was hardly such a monster inventive leap.

mike

"DAB sounds worse than FM" wrote in message
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Graham wrote:
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All my FM radios sound far better than my DAB radios, so why on earth
would they be obsolete?

Here's a couple of audio samples for you to listen to to see which is the
obsolete system out of DAB and FM (both recorded simultaneously on 21st
June 2005):

http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/sa...guitar_DAB.mp2 (1.0 MB)
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/sa..._guitar_FM.mp4 (2.1
MB)

Thanks, but I think I'll stick with FM.


Having had a look at both recordings using Nero Wave Editor the only
difference that I can hear (and see) between them is that the FM recording
has a better treble response than the DAB recording. The DAB recording has a
better base response, but frequencies above 14Khz are definitely being
attenuated. I did my own simultaneous recordings of Radio 1 this afternoon
and got the same result.

At the end of the day it all boils down to personal taste. Personally, I
prefer the more "bassy" sound of DAB radio but I can certainly see (and
hear) what it is your on about Steve. But unless you were an audiophile, or
you had actually taken the time to compare the sound quality of both
systems, I don't think most people would either appreciate or notice the
difference.

"DAB sounds worse than FM" wrote in message
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Stewart Smith wrote:
OldBill wrote:

I wouldn't mind a small DAB radio and cost isn't really a issue but
they all look ugly and old-fashioned.
Modern hi-tech gadget and they make it look like something from the
1960s. Why is that?

There is the "Bug" or whatever it's called. The one that was
designed by Wayne Hemingway.

That's the ulgiest of the whole lot!

Appropriate:

"Once a lonely caterpillar sat and cried
To a sympathetic beetle by his side
I've got nobody to hug ..."

--
Max Demian

In article ,
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
Look at the thread title: "obsolite [sic] non-DAB radios". What
percentage of non-DAB radios don't have FM on them?

Vastly more than FM only.

What PERCENTAGE?

No need to shout, pet.

HTF should I know? At one time, no portables had FM. How far back do you
wish to go?

--
*Why is 'abbreviation' such a long word?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
Look at the thread title: "obsolite [sic] non-DAB radios". What
percentage of non-DAB radios don't have FM on them?

Vastly more than FM only.

What PERCENTAGE?

No need to shout, pet.

HTF should I know? At one time, no portables had FM. How far back do
you wish to go?


We're talking about the PRESENT DAY, duh.


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Willard Myron wrote:
"DAB sounds worse than FM" wrote in message
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Graham wrote:
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All my FM radios sound far better than my DAB radios, so why on earth
would they be obsolete?

Here's a couple of audio samples for you to listen to to see which
is the obsolete system out of DAB and FM (both recorded
simultaneously on 21st June 2005):

http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/sa...guitar_DAB.mp2 (1.0
MB)
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/sa..._guitar_FM.mp4
(2.1 MB) Thanks, but I think I'll stick with FM.


Having had a look at both recordings using Nero Wave Editor the only
difference that I can hear (and see) between them is that the FM
recording has a better treble response than the DAB recording.


In absolute honesty, if I were you I'd get my hearing checked out. Those
2 samples sound absolutely nothing like each other.


The
DAB recording has a better base response, but frequencies above 14Khz
are definitely being attenuated. I did my own simultaneous recordings
of Radio 1 this afternoon and got the same result.

At the end of the day it all boils down to personal taste.


No it does not. The DAB sample sounds incredibly poor. The FM sample
does not. End of story.


Personally, I prefer the more "bassy" sound of DAB radio but I can
certainly see (and hear) what it is your on about Steve. But unless
you were an audiophile, or you had actually taken the time to compare
the sound quality of both systems, I don't think most people would
either appreciate or notice the difference.


Unbefkinglievable. Some people....


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