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Freesat to Launch in 2005/6
The following are references in the BBC's Annual Report (out today, see
bbc.co.uk): page 17: "Last year we identified extending the availability of the BBC’s digital services as a priority for 2004/2005. Freeview continues to be a success with total sales now over 6.6 million. With potential coverage of digital terrestrial now at its maximum (for technical reasons) of 73% of the UK population until digital switchover, the BBC’s efforts this year have been directed at investigating the viability of alternative free-to-air platforms, including satellite, with a view to launch in 2005/2006." page 54 BBC Cymru Wales "We have noted the serious concern expressed by the Broadcasting Council for Wales over the unavailability of free-toair digital television services in large parts of Wales. FreeSat (the proposed free-to-air digital satellite service) may supply a solution and this is something being actively pursued." Also, this is a possible alternative explanation for why the BBC have just leased another transponder, but I doubt it, and I still think HDTV is by far the most likely option: page 53 English Regions: "We are committed to respond to the demand for more local (as opposed to regional) television news services and will watch closely the forthcoming pilot of a highly-local BBC television service on digital satellite" Highly-local BBC TV on digital satellite?? What a waste of time, money, resources, bandwidth, transmission power, you name it. Put it on the fking internet and increase the bit rates of services that matter. -- Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info Find the cheapest Freeview, DAB & MP3 Player Prices: http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/fr..._receivers.htm http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/da...tal_radios.htm http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/mp...rs_1GB-5GB.htm http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/mp...e_capacity.htm |
"We are committed to respond to the demand for more local (as opposed to regional) television news services and will watch closely the forthcoming pilot of a highly-local BBC television service on digital satellite" Highly-local BBC TV on digital satellite?? What a waste of time, money, resources, bandwidth, transmission power, you name it. Put it on the fking internet and increase the bit rates of services that matter. -- Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info It's not that much of a waste of bandwidth as you first think. 1 looped DSAT video stream will serve _6_ local areas (making up 1 region). 10 minute local news bulletins will then be broadcast at the same time on-the-hour for your location (i.e. News for Lincoln will be on at XX.40 through-out the day). It will also be on the net. Wilst I can't say that I'd be interested I can see that it will be a popular service for some people. It will be the TV equivalent of the local newspaper and a chance for local people to contribute. |
wrote in message oups.com... "We are committed to respond to the demand for more local (as opposed to regional) television news services and will watch closely the forthcoming pilot of a highly-local BBC television service on digital satellite" Highly-local BBC TV on digital satellite?? What a waste of time, money, resources, bandwidth, transmission power, you name it. Put it on the fking internet and increase the bit rates of services that matter. -- Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info It's not that much of a waste of bandwidth as you first think. 1 looped DSAT video stream will serve _6_ local areas (making up 1 region). 10 minute local news bulletins will then be broadcast at the same time on-the-hour for your location (i.e. News for Lincoln will be on at XX.40 through-out the day). It will also be on the net. Wilst I can't say that I'd be interested I can see that it will be a popular service for some people. It will be the TV equivalent of the local newspaper and a chance for local people to contribute. Why don't the BBC just give the money to Community Radio which will provide exactly the same service (and a service which so-called BBC "local" read "quasi-regional" radio is failing to provide) once OfCom finally give out the licences to everyone that applied. |
I wonder if they'll implement interactive services and an EPG that are
compliant with standard DVB-S boxes before then? Or if "FreeSat" will still be tied into Sky's proprietary hardware/platform? I know they think it's pointless "launching" freesat without ITV, but they could put all the BBC parts in place anyway. The fact they're not suggests a continued period of catch-up. It would be better for all (except Sky) if BBC Freesat was already in place, and they were now looking at implementing BBC free-HD-sat. It would be interesting (and predictable) for them to throw even more bandwidth at ultra local news services while keeping their main TV and radio bitrates low. How exactly can we (viewers/listeners/awkward sods) get engineering standards back on the agenda? Cheers, David. |
On 14 Jul 2005 02:29:41 -0700, "
wrote: | It would be interesting (and predictable) for them to throw even more | bandwidth at ultra local news services Ouch, I watch Look North *because* it gives me the local news, also because Harry, Christa, and Paul won a prize for best local news program. -- Dave Fawthrop dave hyphenologist co uk In Case of Emergency Store the word "ICE" in your mobile phone address book, and against it enter the number of the person you would want to be contacted "In Case of Emergency". http://tinyurl.com/79lz9 |
Dave Fawthrop wrote:
On 14 Jul 2005 02:29:41 -0700, " wrote: It would be interesting (and predictable) for them to throw even more bandwidth at ultra local news services Ouch, I watch Look North *because* it gives me the local news, also because Harry, Christa, and Paul won a prize for best local news program. David was referring to this in the BBC Annual Report: "We are committed to respond to the demand for more local (as opposed to regional) television news services and will watch closely the forthcoming pilot of a highly-local BBC television service on digital satellite" Highly-local, not regional. Basically, what Fred the cat 5 doors down the road had for breakfast that morning and other interesting and important stuff like that. This is what broadband is for, and shouldn't waste precious bandwidth on broadcast systems for services with a few hundred viewers. In fact, there couldn't be a better example of the BBC's warped priorities. They use mediocre or poor bit rate levels on their main services that millions of people view at any one time, and then they squander bandwidth on things that a minuscule number would ever watch simultaneously. -- Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info Find the cheapest Freeview, DAB & MP3 Player Prices: http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/fr..._receivers.htm http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/da...tal_radios.htm http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/mp...rs_1GB-5GB.htm http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/mp...e_capacity.htm |
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
: I wonder if they'll implement interactive services and an EPG that are : compliant with standard DVB-S boxes before then? Or if "FreeSat" will : still be tied into Sky's proprietary hardware/platform? : I'd put money on it that they'll have been working on a compliant EPG : ever since they decided that Freesat was a priority. I would not be so sure! All of BBCi on DSAT is currently fullly tied into Sky's system as well. They certainly won't want to have TWO systems unless they can co-exist peacefully (as the number of people watching via Sky (or ex-Sky) STBs is going to VASTLY outnumber any refusenicks!) |
Brian McIlwrath wrote:
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote: I wonder if they'll implement interactive services and an EPG that are compliant with standard DVB-S boxes before then? Or if "FreeSat" will still be tied into Sky's proprietary hardware/platform? I'd put money on it that they'll have been working on a compliant EPG ever since they decided that Freesat was a priority. I would not be so sure! All of BBCi on DSAT is currently fullly tied into Sky's system as well. If they want to launch Freesat then I'd say they'll have to develop their own EPG. They certainly won't want to have TWO systems unless they can co-exist peacefully (as the number of people watching via Sky (or ex-Sky) STBs is going to VASTLY outnumber any refusenicks!) Yes, but look at the advertising might of the BBC; we've bought about 5.5 million DTT set-top boxes since Freeview was launched, so they could get the numbers up pretty quickly. Not to the numbers with Sky, obviously, but Freesat is supposed to be a completely different "package" to Sky's package. -- Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info Find the cheapest Freeview, DAB & MP3 Player Prices: http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/fr..._receivers.htm http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/da...tal_radios.htm http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/mp...rs_1GB-5GB.htm http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/mp...e_capacity.htm |
Brian McIlwrath wrote:
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote: I wonder if they'll implement interactive services and an EPG that are compliant with standard DVB-S boxes before then? Or if "FreeSat" will still be tied into Sky's proprietary hardware/platform? I'd put money on it that they'll have been working on a compliant EPG ever since they decided that Freesat was a priority. I would not be so sure! All of BBCi on DSAT is currently fullly tied into Sky's system as well. They certainly won't want to have TWO systems unless they can co-exist peacefully (as the number of people watching via Sky (or ex-Sky) STBs is going to VASTLY outnumber any refusenicks!) The reason they gave for not broadcasting Dolby Digital on DSAT, was they don't want to be tied to proprietary systems, so I suspect they will go for an open standard epg at some point. -- Adrian A |
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