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Satellite speakers connected to sub or receiver?
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Kalman Rubinson wrote: On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 18:51:56 -0400, (Roger) wrote: I have JBL satellite speakers currently connected to my Sony STR-DE945 They are rated at 120 watts. i have a 250 watt JBL sub.ran by a high end Monster sub cable (25ft.) I have had this setup for about 2 yrs . While I was at a high end Audio Video store (Ovation) I was told I would get better reception from my satellites IF I connected them to my sub instead of my receiver and I would notice considerable difference especially while listening to CD's or for that matter anything! ........ Any thoughts on the matter or should I leave well enough alone? MY fear is the sub amp.might BLOW the sats. 1. The sub amp won't blow the sats because the sub amp won't be driving them. 2. If you are using the RCA connection (Monster or not) to the sub, you cannot connect the sats to the sub without buying another amplifier. 3. The only way to connect the sats to the sub would be to use speaker cables to the sub so that the Sony's amps can drive the sats while the sub picks off the LF. 4. The advantage of (3) is that the sub probably has a crossover network which will remove the extreme LF from the the sats and, in fact, will permit them to handle even greater signal input than before. 5. Of course, the JBL has to have speaker-level inputs and outputs for this to work. You do not specify the model nor am I familiar with JBL subs but your owner's manual should detail this. If he does option 3, then the only bass the sub will get is from the sat's. I'd stay away from that salesman if I were him. That is not the way to setup HT. |
"steve" wrote in message ... Kalman Rubinson wrote: On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 18:51:56 -0400, (Roger) wrote: I have JBL satellite speakers currently connected to my Sony STR-DE945 They are rated at 120 watts. i have a 250 watt JBL sub.ran by a high end Monster sub cable (25ft.) I have had this setup for about 2 yrs . While I was at a high end Audio Video store (Ovation) I was told I would get better reception from my satellites IF I connected them to my sub instead of my receiver and I would notice considerable difference especially while listening to CD's or for that matter anything! ........ Any thoughts on the matter or should I leave well enough alone? MY fear is the sub amp.might BLOW the sats. 1. The sub amp won't blow the sats because the sub amp won't be driving them. 2. If you are using the RCA connection (Monster or not) to the sub, you cannot connect the sats to the sub without buying another amplifier. 3. The only way to connect the sats to the sub would be to use speaker cables to the sub so that the Sony's amps can drive the sats while the sub picks off the LF. 4. The advantage of (3) is that the sub probably has a crossover network which will remove the extreme LF from the the sats and, in fact, will permit them to handle even greater signal input than before. 5. Of course, the JBL has to have speaker-level inputs and outputs for this to work. You do not specify the model nor am I familiar with JBL subs but your owner's manual should detail this. If he does option 3, then the only bass the sub will get is from the sat's. I'd stay away from that salesman if I were him. That is not the way to setup HT. Someday, I'm going to write a book called "The Home Theaters of Retail Home Theater Salesmen." It's going to have big pictures of the janky set-ups that most of these people seem to have. And nice, long equipment lists like: "2 MTX SuperTube 'Subwoofers'" "1 'PowerAide' 1200W RMS Car audio amplifier" "220 to 12 volt power transformer to power the car amplifier." 1 Sony Dolby-Digital Ready Receiver 5 x Speakers from a Kenwood HTIB 1 Xbox |
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... "steve" wrote in message ... Kalman Rubinson wrote: On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 18:51:56 -0400, (Roger) wrote: I have JBL satellite speakers currently connected to my Sony STR-DE945 They are rated at 120 watts. i have a 250 watt JBL sub.ran by a high end Monster sub cable (25ft.) I have had this setup for about 2 yrs . While I was at a high end Audio Video store (Ovation) I was told I would get better reception from my satellites IF I connected them to my sub instead of my receiver and I would notice considerable difference especially while listening to CD's or for that matter anything! ......... Any thoughts on the matter or should I leave well enough alone? MY fear is the sub amp.might BLOW the sats. 1. The sub amp won't blow the sats because the sub amp won't be driving them. 2. If you are using the RCA connection (Monster or not) to the sub, you cannot connect the sats to the sub without buying another amplifier. 3. The only way to connect the sats to the sub would be to use speaker cables to the sub so that the Sony's amps can drive the sats while the sub picks off the LF. 4. The advantage of (3) is that the sub probably has a crossover network which will remove the extreme LF from the the sats and, in fact, will permit them to handle even greater signal input than before. 5. Of course, the JBL has to have speaker-level inputs and outputs for this to work. You do not specify the model nor am I familiar with JBL subs but your owner's manual should detail this. If he does option 3, then the only bass the sub will get is from the sat's. I'd stay away from that salesman if I were him. That is not the way to setup HT. Someday, I'm going to write a book called "The Home Theaters of Retail Home Theater Salesmen." It's going to have big pictures of the janky set-ups that most of these people seem to have. And nice, long equipment lists like: "2 MTX SuperTube 'Subwoofers'" "1 'PowerAide' 1200W RMS Car audio amplifier" "220 to 12 volt power transformer to power the car amplifier." 1 Sony Dolby-Digital Ready Receiver 5 x Speakers from a Kenwood HTIB 1 Xbox Haha that's hilarious but definitely true for some of the idiots. A 1200watt car sub has gotta be nicer than a 400watt HT sub right? Put some blue cathode lights on it and it will sound way better. Looking for a co-author? :) Jeremy - A (competent) retail home theater salesman My long equipment list: 2 x Athena AS-F1 1 x Athena AS-C1 4 x Athena AS-B1 1 x JBL E150P (hopefully SVS 20-39PCi soon) Pioneer VSX-1015TX (replaced Onkyo 502) Sony DVP-NS775V (long live SACD) Pioneer CLD-S350 (for those few LDs I have) Xbox (who doesn't?) MonsterPower HTS1000MKII (Panamax if I had more money, Equi=tech if I was rich) ESA 27" CRT (maybe InFocus SP4805 someday) |
Swallowtail wrote: Someday, I'm going to write a book called "The Home Theaters of Retail Home Theater Salesmen." It's going to have big pictures of the janky set-ups that most of these people seem to have. And nice, long equipment lists like: "2 MTX SuperTube 'Subwoofers'" "1 'PowerAide' 1200W RMS Car audio amplifier" "220 to 12 volt power transformer to power the car amplifier." 1 Sony Dolby-Digital Ready Receiver 5 x Speakers from a Kenwood HTIB 1 Xbox What about the salesman from the movie "Boogie Nights", and the Rodriguez (sp) cartoons from Stereo Review mag? |
Jeremy Gillow wrote: snip Jeremy - A (competent) retail home theater salesman My long equipment list: 2 x Athena AS-F1 1 x Athena AS-C1 4 x Athena AS-B1 1 x JBL E150P (hopefully SVS 20-39PCi soon) Pioneer VSX-1015TX (replaced Onkyo 502) Sony DVP-NS775V (long live SACD) Pioneer CLD-S350 (for those few LDs I have) Xbox (who doesn't?) MonsterPower HTS1000MKII (Panamax if I had more money, Equi=tech if I was rich) ESA 27" CRT (maybe InFocus SP4805 someday) OK, you're a competent retail home theater salesman. But why is one of your fondest wishes (apparently) upgrade-wise to spend megabucks on a line-conditioner/surge-suppressor? I'm clueless as to the advantages. Thanks, Jeff |
Swallowtail wrote:
Someday, I'm going to write a book called "The Home Theaters of Retail Home Theater Salesmen." It's going to have big pictures of the janky set-ups that most of these people seem to have. And nice, long equipment lists like: "2 MTX SuperTube 'Subwoofers'" "1 'PowerAide' 1200W RMS Car audio amplifier" "220 to 12 volt power transformer to power the car amplifier." 1 Sony Dolby-Digital Ready Receiver 5 x Speakers from a Kenwood HTIB 1 Xbox Hey! I'm going to find those surveillance cameras, you cant hide them forever! TBerk |
Heh I have no intention to buy one, I just know that equi=tech is reputed as
being one of the best for ultra-high end systems. A while back I watched several movies in a friend's home theater that used equi=tech and wouldn't hesitate to buy from them IF I was looking for that class of product. As things stand, I would certainly upgrade other components before focusing on power delivery, since it would seem wasteful to spend more on a conditioner than on the sum of all the connected devices ;) Jeremy wrote in message oups.com... Jeremy Gillow wrote: snip Jeremy - A (competent) retail home theater salesman My long equipment list: 2 x Athena AS-F1 1 x Athena AS-C1 4 x Athena AS-B1 1 x JBL E150P (hopefully SVS 20-39PCi soon) Pioneer VSX-1015TX (replaced Onkyo 502) Sony DVP-NS775V (long live SACD) Pioneer CLD-S350 (for those few LDs I have) Xbox (who doesn't?) MonsterPower HTS1000MKII (Panamax if I had more money, Equi=tech if I was rich) ESA 27" CRT (maybe InFocus SP4805 someday) OK, you're a competent retail home theater salesman. But why is one of your fondest wishes (apparently) upgrade-wise to spend megabucks on a line-conditioner/surge-suppressor? I'm clueless as to the advantages. Thanks, Jeff |
If this is the same guy that sold you that pile of junk Monster Cable, I'd
stay far far far away from anything he has to say. "Roger" wrote in message ... I have JBL satellite speakers currently connected to my Sony STR-DE945 They are rated at 120 watts. i have a 250 watt JBL sub.ran by a high end Monster sub cable (25ft.) I have had this setup for about 2 yrs . While I was at a high end Audio Video store (Ovation) I was told I would get better reception from my satellites IF I connected them to my sub instead of my receiver and I would notice considerable difference especially while listening to CD's or for that matter anything! ........ Any thoughts on the matter or should I leave well enough alone? MY fear is the sub amp.might BLOW the sats. bodyaThese words are from "THE VOICE OF ROG~" |
Jeremy Gillow wrote: Heh I have no intention to buy one, I just know that equi=tech is reputed as being one of the best for ultra-high end systems. A while back I watched several movies in a friend's home theater that used equi=tech and wouldn't hesitate to buy from them IF I was looking for that class of product. As things stand, I would certainly upgrade other components before focusing on power delivery, since it would seem wasteful to spend more on a conditioner than on the sum of all the connected devices ;) Jeremy Thanks for the clarification. I suppose I just could have assumed that was your plan, but I didn't want to put words in your mouth! I have no experience with line conditioners of any sort, so by default, I am skeptical of their value in all but the highest-end systems. A sort of uneducated opinion, I guess. Just like a lot of other hi-fi tweaks, some seem to swear by them, some claim they are snake-oil. The truth is probably somewhere between the 2 extremes. : ) Jeff |
Bill wrote: If you want real improvement, go to your local computer shop and buy a $200-300 online sine-wave Uninterruptible Power System (UPS). It will do everything the fancy line conditioners do, plus add backup power during brief power failures, for a lot less. I've got an $50 APC 500KVA that has separate filtered outlets and battery outlets. My TV and receiver are on the filtered outlets, and Dish PVR, VCR and DVD/R are on the battery. I've got commercial power filters I tried, but couldn't tell any difference in performance since even the most average consumer gear has good enough filtering in the PS. If you're going to spend the money, get a balanced power conditioner. |
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