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Jomtien March 13th 05 08:51 AM

Nigel Barker wrote:

Unsurprisingly selling for nearly 100 pounds less than QVC.


I've bought the occasional item from QVC and they were all
well-priced. In their defence I must point out that they offer a free
phone number from overseas for ordering, they have cheap postage to
overseas and they also offer what must be the best no-quibble
money-back guarantee of any company.

Many discount electrical vendors in the UK don't ship overseas at all,
and more fool them.

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/6u4p9
How to get UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
Fed up with logos / red buttons? : http://logofreetv.org/
BBC gone? : http://www.astra2d.co.uk/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

Jomtien March 13th 05 08:51 AM

Mark A wrote:

Who said anything about composite? I was talking about S-Video,


How many Sky and Freeview boxes have S-Video outputs?

RGB/scart is the European standard. S-Video is for the Americans, and
they are welcome to it.

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/6u4p9
How to get UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
Fed up with logos / red buttons? : http://logofreetv.org/
BBC gone? : http://www.astra2d.co.uk/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

loz March 13th 05 10:22 AM


"Jomtien" wrote in message
...
How many Sky and Freeview boxes have S-Video outputs?
RGB/scart is the European standard. S-Video is for the Americans, and
they are welcome to it.


Hardly, s-video is also a "standard" for camcorders world wide.

Loz



Mark A March 13th 05 10:28 AM

Jomtien wrote:

How many Sky and Freeview boxes have S-Video outputs?



Both my Pace Sky+ box and my Haupage Freeview box do, as it happens,
though I actually connect both up via RGB. But the S-Video feeds on both
are excellent, even on my 50" TV.

Regards

Mark

Jomtien March 13th 05 04:07 PM

loz wrote:

How many Sky and Freeview boxes have S-Video outputs?
RGB/scart is the European standard. S-Video is for the Americans, and
they are welcome to it.


Hardly, s-video is also a "standard" for camcorders world wide.


I don't have a camcorder, nor do I want one. Any device using S-Video
as its best output has basically been designed for the US market.

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/6u4p9
How to get UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
Fed up with logos / red buttons? : http://logofreetv.org/
BBC gone? : http://www.astra2d.co.uk/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

Jomtien March 13th 05 04:07 PM

Mark A wrote:

How many Sky and Freeview boxes have S-Video outputs?


Both my Pace Sky+ box and my Haupage Freeview box do, as it happens,
though I actually connect both up via RGB. But the S-Video feeds on both
are excellent, even on my 50" TV.


No regular Sky box in current production has S-Video. Sky+ does have
it, though pretty much as an afterthought. Few Freeview boxes have it.

S-Video is a poor quality US standard that has been thrust upon an
unwitting Europe by manufacturers who are too idle/cheap to produce
quality RGB/scart equipment.

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/6u4p9
How to get UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
Fed up with logos / red buttons? : http://logofreetv.org/
BBC gone? : http://www.astra2d.co.uk/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

Mark A March 13th 05 05:06 PM

Jomtien wrote:

Sky+ does have it, though pretty much as an afterthought.


So you were there at the design meetings of Pace and Sky then?

Few Freeview boxes have it.


I've bought two in my time and they both had it. Over scart, mind, but
they still had it as an option.

S-Video is a poor quality US standard that has been thrust upon an
unwitting Europe by manufacturers who are too idle/cheap to produce
quality RGB/scart equipment.


Bull**** on every count. It's neither specifically American, nor poor
quality. It's used, for example, as the standard by which all DVDs are
stored internally on the disc.

Almost any and all European equipment I've ever encountered that has
S-Video also has RGB. It's entirely up to the user which one they wish
to use.

Regards

Mark

loz March 13th 05 05:23 PM


"Jomtien" wrote in message
...

How many Sky and Freeview boxes have S-Video outputs?
RGB/scart is the European standard. S-Video is for the Americans, and
they are welcome to it.


Hardly, s-video is also a "standard" for camcorders world wide.


I don't have a camcorder, nor do I want one. Any device using S-Video
as its best output has basically been designed for the US market.


So every camcorder in the world was designed soly for the US then I
guess....

Note, most modern DV camcorders have a digital output for best quality, with
s-video as the best analog signal.

Not defending that s-video is better than RGB/Scart or vice versa, just that
s-video has wider applicability than the US



Hellraiser March 13th 05 09:12 PM

S-Video is a poor quality US standard that has been thrust upon an
unwitting Europe by manufacturers who are too idle/cheap to produce
quality RGB/scart equipment.


Bull**** on every count. It's neither specifically American, nor poor
quality. It's used, for example, as the standard by which all DVDs are
stored internally on the disc.


Huh? I was under the impression DVDs were stored in digital format, Svideo
is an analogue medium. Perhaps you ought to develop an understanding of
MPEG2 video.

Hellraiser.........



Mark A March 14th 05 12:29 AM

Hellraiser wrote:

I was under the impression DVDs were stored in digital format, Svideo
is an analogue medium.


Yeah, you're right, it's stored in YUV, not Y/C (S-Vid), my brain fart,
sorry. Still doesn't change the fact that S-Video in not a 'poor' form
of connection.

A jolly good run down can be found at:

http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html#0

or another one at:

http://www.disctronics.co.uk/downloa...s/dvdvideo.pdf

Regards

Mark


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