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Carl German February 28th 05 05:27 PM

Time Warner HDTV
 
I am a total noob to the world of HD. I recently purchased a Panasonic 30"
HD set... I love it. DVD's look great on it and after waiting several weeks,
Time Warner finally sent me a new Scientific Atlanta 8300HD. HD channels
look great on this set... no complaints. BTW, I set up my new TV with Video
Essentials. My problem is that most of the other non-HD channels look like
crap! Here in Rochester, NY TW only provides a few HD Channels. No CBS, No
UPN, No Fox. The WB channel has almost no HD programming. InHD, while
providing 100% HD, are, for the most part, BORING! I know that they can't be
all things to all people, but c'mon! Discovery HD is the same way. TNT show
some good movies, but they are edited and often times look stretched.
What I want to know is this...
1) Does TW cable offer more HDTV programming in other markets, or is my
experience par for the course?
2) Am I really that far ahead of the curve? I'm not usually on the cutting
edge of technology, but this time I feel that I have an "animal" and nothing
to feed it! Should I just stick to enjoying my DVD's, and wait for the
broadcasters and cable providers to catch up?
Thanks in advance for your comments.



JimFitch28 February 28th 05 06:03 PM

Carl German wrote:
I am a total noob to the world of HD. I recently purchased a Panasonic 30"
HD set... I love it. DVD's look great on it and after waiting several weeks,
Time Warner finally sent me a new Scientific Atlanta 8300HD. HD channels
look great on this set... no complaints. BTW, I set up my new TV with Video
Essentials. My problem is that most of the other non-HD channels look like
crap! Here in Rochester, NY TW only provides a few HD Channels. No CBS, No
UPN, No Fox. The WB channel has almost no HD programming. InHD, while
providing 100% HD, are, for the most part, BORING! I know that they can't be
all things to all people, but c'mon! Discovery HD is the same way. TNT show
some good movies, but they are edited and often times look stretched.
What I want to know is this...
1) Does TW cable offer more HDTV programming in other markets, or is my
experience par for the course?
2) Am I really that far ahead of the curve? I'm not usually on the cutting
edge of technology, but this time I feel that I have an "animal" and nothing
to feed it! Should I just stick to enjoying my DVD's, and wait for the
broadcasters and cable providers to catch up?
Thanks in advance for your comments.


TW Houston offers the following:

290 HDNET (HD Plus)

291 HDNET Movies (HD Plus)

292 ESPN HD (HD Plus)

295 TNT HD (Standard)

298 HDTV - iN HD (Digital Value)

299 HDTV - iN HD2 (Digital Value)

301 HDTV - Discovery (Standard)

308 HDTV - KUHT PBS 8 (Basic)

309 HDTV - KRIV FOX 26 (Basic)

311 HDTV - KHOU CBS 11 (Basic)

312 HDTV - KPRC NBC 2 (Basic)

313 HDTV - KTRK ABC 13 (Basic)

460 HDTV - HBO (Premium HDTV)

461 HDTV - HBO West (Premium HDTV)

470 HDTV - Showtime (Premium HDTV)

471 HDTV - Showtime West (Premium HDTV)

Some are at additional cost they do not carry UPN or WB I watch them OTA
with a small antenna in the attic.

Hope this helps

HostingUser February 28th 05 07:45 PM

In article ,
says...


I am a total noob to the world of HD. I recently purchased a Panasonic 30"
HD set... I love it. DVD's look great on it and after waiting several weeks,
Time Warner finally sent me a new Scientific Atlanta 8300HD. HD channels
look great on this set... no complaints. BTW, I set up my new TV with Video
Essentials. My problem is that most of the other non-HD channels look like
crap! Here in Rochester, NY TW only provides a few HD Channels. No CBS, No
UPN, No Fox. The WB channel has almost no HD programming. InHD, while
providing 100% HD, are, for the most part, BORING! I know that they can't be
all things to all people, but c'mon! Discovery HD is the same way. TNT show
some good movies, but they are edited and often times look stretched.
What I want to know is this...
1) Does TW cable offer more HDTV programming in other markets, or is my
experience par for the course?
2) Am I really that far ahead of the curve? I'm not usually on the cutting
edge of technology, but this time I feel that I have an "animal" and nothing
to feed it! Should I just stick to enjoying my DVD's, and wait for the
broadcasters and cable providers to catch up?
Thanks in advance for your comments.


It varies by market and what agreements the cable providers can reach with
local broadcasters to carry their digital broadcasts. There is no real 'par
for the course'.

If you want to improve your HD channel choices, you can:

- Get an OTA HD tuner and proper antenna to receive any OTA stations your cable
system doesn't carry. This list came up in a google search:

http://www.inforochester.com/tv.htm

This site appears to be a good resource and has forums to discuss your local
situation. Consider posting there.

http://www.rochesterhdtv.com/

They also had a list:

http://www.rochesterhdtv.com/viewtopic.php?t=26

Apparently, there is no UPN affiliate and CBS hasn't gone to HD yet locally. I
had understood most Fox stations won't provide HD feeds to cable yet because
Fox wants more money for that than the cable systems will offer. I have
Charter and they don't offer PBS or Fox yet, even though they have local HD OTA
broadcasts. That appears to be the same case with you.

- Get a small dish and pay for that subscription. If you do that, consider
dropping TWC.

- Keep what you have and lobby TWC and the local stations to provide them with
a feed. Good luck, you'll need it.


Carl German February 28th 05 08:49 PM

Wow! Thank you for the fast response! This is all great info. I feel much
more "in the loop" now.
"HostingUser" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...


I am a total noob to the world of HD. I recently purchased a Panasonic 30"
HD set... I love it. DVD's look great on it and after waiting several
weeks,
Time Warner finally sent me a new Scientific Atlanta 8300HD. HD channels
look great on this set... no complaints. BTW, I set up my new TV with
Video
Essentials. My problem is that most of the other non-HD channels look like
crap! Here in Rochester, NY TW only provides a few HD Channels. No CBS, No
UPN, No Fox. The WB channel has almost no HD programming. InHD, while
providing 100% HD, are, for the most part, BORING! I know that they can't
be
all things to all people, but c'mon! Discovery HD is the same way. TNT
show
some good movies, but they are edited and often times look stretched.
What I want to know is this...
1) Does TW cable offer more HDTV programming in other markets, or is my
experience par for the course?
2) Am I really that far ahead of the curve? I'm not usually on the cutting
edge of technology, but this time I feel that I have an "animal" and
nothing
to feed it! Should I just stick to enjoying my DVD's, and wait for the
broadcasters and cable providers to catch up?
Thanks in advance for your comments.


It varies by market and what agreements the cable providers can reach with
local broadcasters to carry their digital broadcasts. There is no real
'par
for the course'.

If you want to improve your HD channel choices, you can:

- Get an OTA HD tuner and proper antenna to receive any OTA stations your
cable
system doesn't carry. This list came up in a google search:

http://www.inforochester.com/tv.htm

This site appears to be a good resource and has forums to discuss your
local
situation. Consider posting there.

http://www.rochesterhdtv.com/

They also had a list:

http://www.rochesterhdtv.com/viewtopic.php?t=26

Apparently, there is no UPN affiliate and CBS hasn't gone to HD yet
locally. I
had understood most Fox stations won't provide HD feeds to cable yet
because
Fox wants more money for that than the cable systems will offer. I have
Charter and they don't offer PBS or Fox yet, even though they have local
HD OTA
broadcasts. That appears to be the same case with you.

- Get a small dish and pay for that subscription. If you do that,
consider
dropping TWC.

- Keep what you have and lobby TWC and the local stations to provide them
with
a feed. Good luck, you'll need it.




Alan Figgatt February 28th 05 09:19 PM

Carl German wrote:
I am a total noob to the world of HD. I recently purchased a Panasonic 30"
HD set... I love it. DVD's look great on it and after waiting several weeks,
Time Warner finally sent me a new Scientific Atlanta 8300HD. HD channels
look great on this set... no complaints. BTW, I set up my new TV with Video
Essentials. My problem is that most of the other non-HD channels look like
crap! Here in Rochester, NY TW only provides a few HD Channels. No CBS, No
UPN, No Fox. The WB channel has almost no HD programming. InHD, while
providing 100% HD, are, for the most part, BORING! I know that they can't be
all things to all people, but c'mon! Discovery HD is the same way. TNT show
some good movies, but they are edited and often times look stretched.
What I want to know is this...
1) Does TW cable offer more HDTV programming in other markets, or is my
experience par for the course?
2) Am I really that far ahead of the curve? I'm not usually on the cutting
edge of technology, but this time I feel that I have an "animal" and nothing
to feed it! Should I just stick to enjoying my DVD's, and wait for the
broadcasters and cable providers to catch up?
Thanks in advance for your comments.


As already stated, it varies widely between different markets. Depends
on how far along your local cable company is in updating to HD and
whether they have negotiated carry rights to all the local digital
broadcast stations yet. My local Comcast system currently has about 12
HD channels if I include my 3 premium channels. The only HD broadcast
network they currently don't offer is UPN which is the one network
station I can't pick up with an ATSC tuner (the D.C. UPN station is
broadcasting at VERY low power).

The list of local stations broadcasting digital and HD (not all
digital stations have upgraded to broadcasting the network HD signals
yet - digital does necessarily equal HD) in Rochester, NY only shows 4
HD stations.
Rochester, NY - abc (13) - FOX (31) - NBC (10) - PBS (21)

CBS is not listed, so that may be why TWC doesn't have it. See the
forums at www.avsforum.com if you want to read up on HD.

The first thing I would do is to write them an email and also call
them asking for more HD channels. You won't get more than a boilerplate
response, but the more requests they get in for HD, the more attention
the management may pay to it.

Alan F


HostingUser March 1st 05 11:18 PM

In article , says...

I had understood most Fox stations won't provide HD feeds to cable yet because
Fox wants more money for that than the cable systems will offer.

Correction: That should read Sinclair Broadcast Group wants more money rather
than Fox. Sinclair owns a number of Fox affiliates.


Roger March 3rd 05 03:33 AM

Hi, I just got an 8300 HD also. Picture isn't any better than the 8000 HD
which I had earlier, two of them actually whose hard drives crashed, one in
2 days and the next one in 4 weeks. The hard drive on the 8300 is totally
silent. They say it has a fan to cool the hard drive. I don't know. I don't
hear a fan.
Anyhow, fortunately my SD (non-HD) channels look quite good. I have only
chosen the 1080i setting. You might try clicking on the 480i also, and the
SD channels might look much better if you did that. The box and the TV talk
to each other to see which would be the best setting for any given channel.
On my particular TV I compared, and I wound up sticking to just 1080i.
Roger.
p.s When I had a Dish 811 receiver, the SD channels looked awful on the
digital input, I had to use the S-Video out to watch SD channels with that
receiver. Luckily with the 8000/8300 HD, even with the DTV input the SD
channels look fine.




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