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Jon Nadelberg February 19th 05 05:02 AM

SLOW tivo to go
 
I just got version 7.1a, and it is taking approximately 6 to 8 hours to
transfer about 760mb of data over my wifi.

What can I do to speed this up? I'm using a linksys wap54g access
point, and a linksys range extender to be able to have a signal to the
tivo, and a linksys wsub12 on the back of the tivo unit. It works, and
there seems to be no bugs, but it is just so very slow.

Seth February 19th 05 06:02 AM

"Jon Nadelberg" wrote in message
...
I just got version 7.1a, and it is taking approximately 6 to 8 hours to
transfer about 760mb of data over my wifi.

What can I do to speed this up? I'm using a linksys wap54g access point,
and a linksys range extender to be able to have a signal to the tivo, and
a linksys wsub12 on the back of the tivo unit. It works, and there seems
to be no bugs, but it is just so very slow.


I'd say the way you have it setup is a big part of the cause. With
wireless, each device has to wait for "quiet time" before it can speak. In
your case, the TiVo sends a packet, then waits while the repeater resends
it. the Access Point sends it's acknowledgement (while the TiVo still
waits) to the repeater, which then send it on to the TiVo. Repeat a whole
bunch of times.

And of course, everybody waits if another wireless device on the network
wants it's turn to speak.

Any way to get some wiring in the mix someplace? Maybe Ethernet from the
TiVo to a wireless bridge close enough to the access point so as to
eliminate the repeater? Or even better, wire all the way?


Jon Nadelberg February 19th 05 07:36 AM

Seth wrote:

"Jon Nadelberg" wrote in message
...

I just got version 7.1a, and it is taking approximately 6 to 8 hours
to transfer about 760mb of data over my wifi.

What can I do to speed this up? I'm using a linksys wap54g access
point, and a linksys range extender to be able to have a signal to the
tivo, and a linksys wsub12 on the back of the tivo unit. It works,
and there seems to be no bugs, but it is just so very slow.




Any way to get some wiring in the mix someplace? Maybe Ethernet from
the TiVo to a wireless bridge close enough to the access point so as to
eliminate the repeater? Or even better, wire all the way?


I can try looking into that. The problem is my house is kind of similar
to the Winchester Mystery House in design, and I don't think running
wires is going to be much of an option.

Perhaps I'll just have to suck it up and live with it being slow. But
it is so slow that it is really not very usable.

Otherwise, I'm not having any problems with the 7.1a upgrade. I was
worried about the menus being slower, but they actually seem faster, and
I've not into any other problems.


Jon Nadelberg February 20th 05 12:02 AM

Seth wrote:

"Jon Nadelberg" wrote in message
...

I just got version 7.1a, and it is taking approximately 6 to 8 hours
to transfer about 760mb of data over my wifi.

What can I do to speed this up? I'm using a linksys wap54g access
point, and a linksys range extender to be able to have a signal to the
tivo, and a linksys wsub12 on the back of the tivo unit. It works,
and there seems to be no bugs, but it is just so very slow.



I'd say the way you have it setup is a big part of the cause. With
wireless, each device has to wait for "quiet time" before it can speak.
In your case, the TiVo sends a packet, then waits while the repeater
resends it. the Access Point sends it's acknowledgement (while the TiVo
still waits) to the repeater, which then send it on to the TiVo. Repeat
a whole bunch of times.

And of course, everybody waits if another wireless device on the network
wants it's turn to speak.

Any way to get some wiring in the mix someplace? Maybe Ethernet from
the TiVo to a wireless bridge close enough to the access point so as to
eliminate the repeater? Or even better, wire all the way?



I just took a look at this again. It seems that a program on the tivo
box is not moving over at all. The transfer has ground to a halt.

So I have restarted the transfer, and it is simply sitting there, and
not moving. Is this one of the problems people are having?

dave saltz February 20th 05 01:23 AM

Jon Nadelberg wrote:

I just took a look at this again. It seems that a program on the tivo
box is not moving over at all. The transfer has ground to a halt.

So I have restarted the transfer, and it is simply sitting there, and
not moving. Is this one of the problems people are having?


I had this happen when I tried to move the Super Bowl over. Went for a few
hours then just died. After a few retries, I just canceled it. Not worth the
aggravation.

--
Dave



Jon Nadelberg February 20th 05 01:44 AM

dave saltz wrote:
Jon Nadelberg wrote:

I just took a look at this again. It seems that a program on the tivo
box is not moving over at all. The transfer has ground to a halt.

So I have restarted the transfer, and it is simply sitting there, and
not moving. Is this one of the problems people are having?



I had this happen when I tried to move the Super Bowl over. Went for a few
hours then just died. After a few retries, I just canceled it. Not worth the
aggravation.


Funny thing. I looked at the destination folder, and the file was
actually there. So, it sent it over even though it said it was in queue
to go. The desktop was not being properly updated.

Also, found out you can go directly to the DVR from your web browser.
you simply go to https://ip of the dvr/ and it will take you to the
now playing list.

It asks for a ID and password. For the ID, you give it tivo, and for
the PW, you give it the Media Access Key.

Seth February 20th 05 04:35 AM

"Jon Nadelberg" wrote in message
...

Funny thing. I looked at the destination folder, and the file was
actually there. So, it sent it over even though it said it was in queue
to go. The desktop was not being properly updated.


It may not be over in it's entirety. I don't know specifically about with
TivoToGo, but I do know that some file transfer programs create a file of
the total file size before the first byte is even written and then fill it
in.



Randy S. February 20th 05 04:51 AM


It may not be over in it's entirety. I don't know specifically about
with TivoToGo, but I do know that some file transfer programs create a
file of the total file size before the first byte is even written and
then fill it in.



Tivo-to-go seems to reflect actual amount transferred in my experience,
i.e. it increases over time.

Randy S.

Seth February 20th 05 04:57 AM

"Randy S." wrote in message
...

It may not be over in it's entirety. I don't know specifically about
with TivoToGo, but I do know that some file transfer programs create a
file of the total file size before the first byte is even written and
then fill it in.


Tivo-to-go seems to reflect actual amount transferred in my experience,
i.e. it increases over time.


Well, that blows my theory out of the water, oh well.


Jon Nadelberg February 20th 05 07:57 AM

Seth wrote:

"Randy S." wrote in message
...


It may not be over in it's entirety. I don't know specifically about
with TivoToGo, but I do know that some file transfer programs create
a file of the total file size before the first byte is even written
and then fill it in.



Tivo-to-go seems to reflect actual amount transferred in my
experience, i.e. it increases over time.



Well, that blows my theory out of the water, oh well.


It was the entire program. I think TTG has a problem with being updated
properly. Amongst whatever else it has problems with.

At this speed, I guess I'd use it to download overnight. Not much use
otherwise.

Randy S. February 20th 05 02:32 PM


It was the entire program. I think TTG has a problem with being updated
properly. Amongst whatever else it has problems with.

At this speed, I guess I'd use it to download overnight. Not much use
otherwise.


For now it's definitely a set and forget type of setup for archiving
shows. You're better off waiting until you have a few shows to record,
queuing them up, and coming back later to record.

But, hey, before January the only way to do this was to seriously hack
the box!

Randy S.


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