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Mack McKinnon February 14th 05 01:57 AM

I have not seen anything like that. There was an article about Sony's new
prosumer HD camcorder in "Circuits" on Thursday. But I do not get the
Sunday Times, most Sundays, so could have missed it if it appeared on Sunday
2/6. Articles that appear in the Times stay up on the web for 2 weeks and
you can do a search at their website, but I find their search engine leaves
a lot to be desired. Still, you could try that.

mack
austin


"Tecumseh" wrote in message
...
Hey all,
Apparently, last weekend the NY times had a story about the state of HDTV
and how the new models this year will be cheaper and much much better.
I searched their web paper and found nothing.
Anyone read this or hear about it?
Or, have a link to it?
Take Care
Tec





Tecumseh February 14th 05 03:34 AM

NYTIMES on the new models
 
Hey all,
Apparently, last weekend the NY times had a story about the state of HDTV
and how the new models this year will be cheaper and much much better.
I searched their web paper and found nothing.
Anyone read this or hear about it?
Or, have a link to it?
Take Care
Tec



RPL47 March 1st 05 02:41 AM

The NY Times is a liberal rag! Read The POST!!!.

"Tecumseh" wrote in message
...
Hey all,
Apparently, last weekend the NY times had a story about the state of HDTV
and how the new models this year will be cheaper and much much better.
I searched their web paper and found nothing.
Anyone read this or hear about it?
Or, have a link to it?
Take Care
Tec





Sparky March 1st 05 12:22 PM

RPL47 wrote:

The NY Times is a liberal rag! Read The POST!!!.


Ha, this isn't a political NG; but the Post is Murdoch's right wing rag.
Nothing wrong with the Times, but if you want a newspaper with a more
conserative POV read the Daily News.

Sparky March 1st 05 12:23 PM

Michelle Steiner wrote:

In article et,
"RPL47" wrote:

The NY Times is a liberal rag! Read The POST!!!.


The Post is a right wing propaganda sheet, just like Fox News and the
Washington Times. They don't understand the difference between news and
opinion. Heck, they don't understand the difference between news and
GOP press releases.


Well put, Michelle!

Mack McKinnon March 1st 05 09:36 PM


"Michelle Steiner" wrote
The curious thing is that back in the 1940s and 1950s, the Post was so
left wing that many New Yorkers considered it to be a Communist
propaganda sheet.


Everything changes. When I was in college in the early 1960's, the health
food stores were run by John Birch Society right-wingers. What we now call
"environmentalism" was called "conservatism" and was under the auspices of
conservative hunters, fishermen, boy scouts and state game wardens. Barry
Goldwater wrote a book called "Conscience of a Conservative" in which he
espoused values that would today be considered not "conservative" but
far-right radical. What he thought of as "liberal" is now the conservative
wing of the Republican Party. What is now plain-Jane Democrat party
"liberal", Barry would have labeled Trotskyite Communist, or worse.

And, just to keep this on topic, what we thought of in those days as a huge
TV set is now considered a miniature, for the bathroom or kitchen. A
current TV set, much bigger and better, costs a tiny fraction of the money a
TV cost in those days -- even in constant dollars. Unlike cars and homes,
the price of TV sets has gone way down! (Not like computers, of course. A
1960's computer with the power of today's $395 Dell desktop -- or the
closest available -- would have set you back millions of dollars and that
wouldn't have included the building to house it!)

Nothing is permanent but impermanence.

mack
austin



Mack McKinnon March 1st 05 09:38 PM


"Mack McKinnon" wrote

What we now call "environmentalism" was called "conservatism"


Actually, it was called "conservationism"...

mack
austin



Sparky March 1st 05 10:30 PM

Michelle Steiner wrote:

In article , Sparky
wrote:

The Post is a right wing propaganda sheet, just like Fox News and
the Washington Times. They don't understand the difference between
news and opinion. Heck, they don't understand the difference
between news and GOP press releases.


Well put, Michelle!


The curious thing is that back in the 1940s and 1950s, the Post was so
left wing that many New Yorkers considered it to be a Communist
propaganda sheet.


LOL, I don't remember that!

Then Rupert Murdoch happened.

Sparky March 2nd 05 01:25 PM

Michelle Steiner wrote:

In article ,
"Mack McKinnon"
wrote:

Barry Goldwater wrote a book called "Conscience of a Conservative" in
which he espoused values that would today be considered not
"conservative" but far-right radical.


Um, for the most part, what he wrote then is what can be called
"libertarian" today. He was quite moderate by today's right-wing
standards.


Goldwater was a god damned Communist by today's standards!!!

I have seen posters claim Nixon was a liberal because he imposed wage &
price controls at one point.

Mack McKinnon March 2nd 05 03:39 PM

In regard to TV prices, the $250 for a TV set in 1960 would be the
equivalent of paying about $1500-$2000 for it today, because of inflation.
As for Goldwater, I think you people have an odd view of "today's standards"
if you think his 1960 views would today be considered "communist" or even
"libertarian". He called for the rejection of all federal money for
schools, warning that it would lead to federal control (how true that turned
out to be). Now the supposed "conservative" Republican president makes
federal control of schools a major goal. That's a serious leftward "drift"
and Goldwater's idea about it would now be considered far right-wing.

Goldwater did drift left himself, though, in his later years. Anyway, all
that crap can be argued forever and is WAY off-topic.

mack
austin


"Sparky" wrote in message
...
Michelle Steiner wrote:

In article ,
"Mack McKinnon" wrote:

Barry Goldwater wrote a book called "Conscience of a Conservative" in
which he espoused values that would today be considered not
"conservative" but far-right radical.


Um, for the most part, what he wrote then is what can be called
"libertarian" today. He was quite moderate by today's right-wing
standards.


Goldwater was a god damned Communist by today's standards!!!

I have seen posters claim Nixon was a liberal because he imposed wage &
price controls at one point.





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