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Sean February 9th 05 10:48 PM

On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 10:12:57 -0600, Lazarus Long
wrote:

On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 20:32:04 -0500, "Golf God"
wrote:



Of course, and he gets more attention. Why do they give him what he wants?


Because he has a point. Valid one. Why do you blindly cheerlead instead of
acknowledging Tivo's faults?


TIVO may have faults, but it's a Rhodes Scholar compared to the
totally brain dead offerings from Scientific Atlanta. They are most
thoroughly incompetent bunch of idiots to ever foist a consumer
electronic device on the public. Whatever they're being paid, it's
too much. They should all be fired. They ought to use TIVOs
software. Say what you will. It works, SAs doesn't.


No. Tivo doesn't "work".

Cable HD doesnt work.
Cable dual tuners doesn't work.
Cable Dolby 5.1 doesn't work.

Stop spreading lies about Tivo, you rumpswab.

Sean

Sean February 9th 05 10:49 PM

On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 14:16:49 -0000, "Eric J. Holtman"
wrote:

"eric" wrote in news:[email protected]:


"Lazarus Long" wrote in message
...
Honest to pete, this isn't splitting the atom, I'd use a SA DVR if
they'd get the damn thing work right.


I agree, it's amazing that after all these years the developers of Cable
DVRs still don't have software that is on par with Tivo's. What good is
great hardware if the software driving it is crap?



Well, if you've dropped low to mid five figures on a home theater,
and you want to watch shows in HD, but not watch them when the network
airs them, you can't really use a Tivo to do that (unless you have
DirecTV).

So, in that case (which I understand puts me in the minority of users,
but soon *many* people will have HD), one has to put up with a ****ty
user interface to be able to enjoy their investments.



I like the Comcast interface better than Tivo now that I'm used to it.

Sean

Sean February 9th 05 10:54 PM

On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 12:11:45 -0500, Jeff Rife wrote:

Eric J. Holtman ) wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
On the other side of the fence are the JoeSixpacks of the world, whose
VCRs still flash 12:00, and who just want to record a few shows. My
parents are in that group. They have an SA Box. They love it. They
don't miss features they've never used.


I think the #1 "feature" missing from most HD cable DVRs is a hard drive
that can store a reasonable amount of programming. An example: most people
with HD cable DVRs could barely record the Super Bowl in HD, and could not
record the whole HD spectacle of that day (about 7 hours).


Wrong!!!!

I can record 15 hours of HD on my Comcast box. That's plenty for me.



With even one HD show per day, go out of town for a week and you start
having shows erased on a HD cable DVR. But, it seems that 30 hours will
be the starting point for HD TiVos...that would easily handle 3 weeks at one
show per day.


Wrong again.


And, despite the fact that only a small percentage of TiVo owners increase
their drive space, the fact of the matter is that it is easy to do and
relatively cheap. Cable companies will be having some real issues when
they find out their hardware must be completely replaced to support more
than 13 hours of HD recording (the Motorola boxes use a old IDE controller
with support for only one drive and no LBA48).


Wrong Mr. know it all.

And do I have to point out again that Comcast has already upgraded
their hardware once in the first year of offering a dvr for no other
reason than to upgrade it?

Geeze. Stop posting bull****.

Sean

Sean February 9th 05 11:00 PM

On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 14:47:52 -0700, "Poppa H."
wrote:
almost single-handedly made the DVR
the killer app it is today, and made tons of money doing so.


Since it's inception. Tivo has lost over $600 million. Look it up.

Will there be a press release when they go over the $1 billion mark?


Sean doesn't
seem to get this despite the fact that his beloved Comca$t box wouldn't
exist if not for the success of Tivo. The only viable argument I've ever
read in any of his posts is that Tivo (standalone) hardware doesn't support
HDTV yet.


Who cares why it exists. It does and it's better than Tivo's cable
product.

2 tuners
HD
Dolby 5.1
Better guide interface
No phone line required
Integrated on demand
Video help
Cheaper than Tivo
Free hardware upgrades


Sean (and the other Comcast fanatics) can keep their overpriced (and rising)
service to watch and record a few HD programs on their "free" equipment...if
Comcast can keep their equipment running and a signal to their homes. Some
people just don't get that free equipment does no good if it doesn't work.
It shouldn't be long before there are some more HD DVR's on the market and
prices come down a bit. By then there should also be more programming
available to make it all worthwhile.


Comcast service to my house is excellent.

And the only prices that are coming down are the prices on the
overpirced Tivo. Pretty soon they'll be paying people to get one.


It's not hard to figure out why someone who regularly posts to a Tivo
newsgroup to spew his dislike for the product. There are a few words people
have used to describe such a being, which I won't repeat. I've simply
learned to ignore his posts, as there's not been a single rant of his with
any valuable information.


Keep your head in the sand while I enjoy my ne HD home theater.

Sean

Sean February 9th 05 11:01 PM

On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 18:10:14 -0500, Jeff Rife wrote:

Poppa H. ) wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
The only viable argument I've ever
read in any of his posts is that Tivo (standalone) hardware doesn't support
HDTV yet.


It's still not a viable argument, because each Comcast HD DVR supports only
*one* Comcast cable franchise...no OTA, no satellite, no other Comcast
franchise, no other cable company, etc.

That's exactly why they can't sell cable DVRs to customers...because they
are useless anywhere else (sometimes even at a different address within
the same cable franchise).

Yet, as soon as the cable companies stop trying to get the CableCard rules
pushed back indefinitely (or removed altogether), TiVo will make an HD DVR
that works with *all* cable companies, and people will pay for those units
*and* pay monthly fees to keep them working. That says a lot about just
how good TiVo is compared to other DVRs. Heck, even ReplayTV can get people
to pay for their boxes, yet cable companies have to give them away--and
provide free hardware replacements for life--just to get people to take
them.


Check your meds. I think it's time to double up on the
anti-delusional pill.

Sean


Sean February 9th 05 11:02 PM

On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 21:28:38 GMT,
(Scott Alfter) wrote:

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In article ,
Lazarus Long wrote:
Why does this Sean character still post in here? He doesn't care for
TIVO, thinks it's a product made by a company on it's last legs,
doomed to fold in the not too distant future. That being so, why come
here?


It keeps posting here because it is a troll. Trolls like nothing better
than to stir up sh*t and watch the resulting fireworks fly. If more people
would ignore Sean, it would eventually come to the realization that its
posts aren't getting a rise out of anyone. It might then pick another
newsgroup to crapflood...or maybe it'll just assume room temperature as a
result of some STD it picked up in a bathroom stall at the last Village
People concert and spare all of Usenet.


Homophobe.

Sean

Sean February 9th 05 11:03 PM

On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 22:57:41 -0500, "M." wrote:


newsgroup to crapflood...or maybe it'll just assume room temperature as a
result of some STD it picked up in a bathroom stall at the last Village
People concert and spare all of Usenet.


Amen :)


A right wing religious homophobe check in.

Sean

Jeff Rife February 10th 05 12:19 AM

(Sean none) wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 12:11:45 -0500, Jeff Rife wrote:

Eric J. Holtman ) wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
On the other side of the fence are the JoeSixpacks of the world, whose
VCRs still flash 12:00, and who just want to record a few shows. My
parents are in that group. They have an SA Box. They love it. They
don't miss features they've never used.


I think the #1 "feature" missing from most HD cable DVRs is a hard drive
that can store a reasonable amount of programming. An example: most people
with HD cable DVRs could barely record the Super Bowl in HD, and could not
record the whole HD spectacle of that day (about 7 hours).


Wrong!!!!


*Most* HD DVRs that cable companies supply have 80GB hard drives. This
is enough space for between 7 and 10 hours of recording.

I can record 15 hours of HD on my Comcast box.


Some boxes do have 120GB hard drives, but they are in the minority.

That's plenty for me.


We all know you require far less out of your DVR and HDTV than the rest
of the world.

With even one HD show per day, go out of town for a week and you start
having shows erased on a HD cable DVR. But, it seems that 30 hours will
be the starting point for HD TiVos...that would easily handle 3 weeks at one
show per day.


Wrong again.


So, now Sean has failed 3rd grade math: 1 hour x 21 days = 21 hours.
That's less than 30 hours (which the HD DirecTiVo has space for), and
more than 15 hours (which is what the biggest HD cable DVR has).

And, despite the fact that only a small percentage of TiVo owners increase
their drive space, the fact of the matter is that it is easy to do and
relatively cheap. Cable companies will be having some real issues when
they find out their hardware must be completely replaced to support more
than 13 hours of HD recording (the Motorola boxes use a old IDE controller
with support for only one drive and no LBA48).


Wrong Mr. know it all.


Read sometime about the people that have tried to upgrade the disk in
cable DVRs. Strange things happen with larger than 137GB drives, because
the system goes ahead and formats it all, but can't use it correctly
and corruption occurs. This is the standard sort of error you see with
LBA48 drives and non-LBA48 controllers.

Although putting a "bare" drive into the box causes it to be initialized,
nobody has succeeded in getting a second drive initialized, so either
the hardware doesn't support it (which seems likely given that the IDE
controller is cheap and a 7-year-old design), or the software doesn't
support it.

For more info, see:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...hreadid=496586

There are many other threads about the lack of success in upgrading hard
drives in cable DVRs.

--
Jeff Rife |
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Lazarus Long February 10th 05 03:54 PM

On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 16:46:38 -0500, Sean none wrote:

On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 20:39:01 -0600, Lazarus Long
wrote:



Honest to pete, this isn't splitting the atom, I'd use a SA DVR if
they'd get the damn thing work right.



Excactly.

You are just like me. I have Comcast which has a great product. far
superior to Tivo. I've heard others say good things about the lates SA
product but I don't have first hand experience.

Don't worry. Your cable company will get it right soon. It's
not splitting the atom.

Sean


I'll try the DVR from my cable company again this summer. But I don't
have high expectations.

Getting it right means recording reliably. That's not something
you've directly addressed.

My experience, which you seem to want to ignore is that the SA8000
sometimes simply wouldn't record. And if it did, wouldn't play the
recording through.

And the SA8000 lacks the niceties I expect in a DVR.

But this may have changed. I hope so, but as I said, I don't have
high hopes.



Sean February 10th 05 05:30 PM

On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 18:19:48 -0500, Jeff Rife wrote:

(Sean none) wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 12:11:45 -0500, Jeff Rife wrote:

Eric J. Holtman ) wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
On the other side of the fence are the JoeSixpacks of the world, whose
VCRs still flash 12:00, and who just want to record a few shows. My
parents are in that group. They have an SA Box. They love it. They
don't miss features they've never used.

I think the #1 "feature" missing from most HD cable DVRs is a hard drive
that can store a reasonable amount of programming. An example: most people
with HD cable DVRs could barely record the Super Bowl in HD, and could not
record the whole HD spectacle of that day (about 7 hours).


Wrong!!!!


*Most* HD DVRs that cable companies supply have 80GB hard drives. This
is enough space for between 7 and 10 hours of recording.

I can record 15 hours of HD on my Comcast box.


Some boxes do have 120GB hard drives, but they are in the minority.


Thanks for acknowledging that I was right.


That's plenty for me.


We all know you require far less out of your DVR and HDTV than the rest
of the world.

With even one HD show per day, go out of town for a week and you start
having shows erased on a HD cable DVR. But, it seems that 30 hours will
be the starting point for HD TiVos...that would easily handle 3 weeks at one
show per day.


Wrong again.


So, now Sean has failed 3rd grade math: 1 hour x 21 days = 21 hours.
That's less than 30 hours (which the HD DirecTiVo has space for), and
more than 15 hours (which is what the biggest HD cable DVR has).


Apparently this math is 4th grade, beyond Jeffie's comprehension.

With even one HD show per day, go out of town for a week and you start
having shows erased on a HD cable DVR.

To which I replied... Wrong.

1 hour x 7 days = 7 hours. Well below my 15 hour HD capacity.

Jeff, is your employer aware of your non-existant math skills? My
guess is you work somewhere in academia. You kissed ass just long
enough to make tenure and now no matter how stupid you prove to be you
have a job for life.


And, despite the fact that only a small percentage of TiVo owners increase
their drive space, the fact of the matter is that it is easy to do and
relatively cheap. Cable companies will be having some real issues when
they find out their hardware must be completely replaced to support more
than 13 hours of HD recording (the Motorola boxes use a old IDE controller
with support for only one drive and no LBA48).


Wrong Mr. know it all.


Read sometime about the people that have tried to upgrade the disk in
cable DVRs. Strange things happen with larger than 137GB drives, because
the system goes ahead and formats it all, but can't use it correctly
and corruption occurs. This is the standard sort of error you see with
LBA48 drives and non-LBA48 controllers.

Although putting a "bare" drive into the box causes it to be initialized,
nobody has succeeded in getting a second drive initialized, so either
the hardware doesn't support it (which seems likely given that the IDE
controller is cheap and a 7-year-old design), or the software doesn't
support it.

For more info, see:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...hreadid=496586

There are many other threads about the lack of success in upgrading hard
drives in cable DVRs.


Who said anything about customers upgrading hardware???

The post was about Cable companies upgrading their hardware.

Geeze what a dolt you are.

It's been well established here (despite ignorant rants from the
know-nothings) that cable companies have already upgraded their
hardware (Both Motorola + SA) as part of improving their products.

Did I mention what a Dolt you are?

Sean


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