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[email protected] February 1st 05 03:59 PM

Help with a Durabrand STS75E
 
Which has been compared to: Goodman GDVD-135 and Venturer STS21AAS-10.

I am running the R and L audio outs from the DVD player to my TV.
Problem is that I can't hear any dialogue thru my TV speakers.
I messed with the PCM or raw selections, but neither seem to help.

What audio setting must I change to fix this problem?

From googling around a bit I found this:


"Okay, after reading the manual and looking at the audio opti=ADons
again, the default audio setting was bitstream (against pcm =ADor off) I
assumed that this was the digital sound setting and defual=ADt was
correct for the 5.1 dd. Turns out that this digital output s=ADetting
wasn't for 5.1 (no idea what its for then) but advised to turn to o=ADff
when not using. "


Sounds like something that may help my problem, but I don't really
understand it and I wouldn't know how to do it on my DVD player.
Any help would be great, thanks!


Malice February 1st 05 04:37 PM

wrote:
Which has been compared to: Goodman GDVD-135 and Venturer STS21AAS-10.

I am running the R and L audio outs from the DVD player to my TV.
Problem is that I can't hear any dialogue thru my TV speakers.
I messed with the PCM or raw selections, but neither seem to help.

What audio setting must I change to fix this problem?

From googling around a bit I found this:


"Okay, after reading the manual and looking at the audio opti*ons
again, the default audio setting was bitstream (against pcm *or off) I
assumed that this was the digital sound setting and defual*t was
correct for the 5.1 dd. Turns out that this digital output s*etting
wasn't for 5.1 (no idea what its for then) but advised to turn to o*ff
when not using. "


Sounds like something that may help my problem, but I don't really
understand it and I wouldn't know how to do it on my DVD player.
Any help would be great, thanks!

Does playing a normal CD produce any sound on your TV? Usually digital
output (5.1 DD) does not get transmitted through L + R connections,
rather a single optical or coaxial cable link. I suspect the output is
for "normal" cd type audio reproduction, not DVD multichannel sound.

What output connections are there on the back of your Durabrand?

[email protected] February 1st 05 04:51 PM


Malice wrote:
wrote:
Which has been compared to: Goodman GDVD-135 and Venturer

STS21AAS-10.

I am running the R and L audio outs from the DVD player to my TV.
Problem is that I can't hear any dialogue thru my TV speakers.
I messed with the PCM or raw selections, but neither seem to help.

What audio setting must I change to fix this problem?

From googling around a bit I found this:


"Okay, after reading the manual and looking at the audio opti=ADons
again, the default audio setting was bitstream (against pcm =ADor

off) I
assumed that this was the digital sound setting and defual=ADt was
correct for the 5.1 dd. Turns out that this digital output

s=ADetting
wasn't for 5.1 (no idea what its for then) but advised to turn to

o=ADff
when not using. "


Sounds like something that may help my problem, but I don't really
understand it and I wouldn't know how to do it on my DVD player.
Any help would be great, thanks!

Does playing a normal CD produce any sound on your TV?


Haven't tried that.
But my tv speakers are basically playing the R Front and L Front sound,
and ignoring anything out of the center channel, I would imagine that a
real CD would not work.

Usually digital
output (5.1 DD) does not get transmitted through L + R connections,
rather a single optical or coaxial cable link. I suspect the output

is
for "normal" cd type audio reproduction, not DVD multichannel sound.

What output connections are there on the back of your Durabrand?

The L, R, and Video outs and the component outs.
The Svideo out.


Malice February 1st 05 06:44 PM

wrote:

What output connections are there on the back of your Durabrand?


The L, R, and Video outs and the component outs.
The Svideo out.

You do not appear to have multi channel processing. Either you would
have an optical or coax out, or pre-amps out to drive L, R , Centre, Sub
and Surround L and Surround R, or speaker terminals to attach your "5.1"
speakers if you have on-board amplification (excepting the sub of course
which will just need a pre-amp out). You have none of these.

If you think you were going to get 5.1 sound out of the connections you
have, think again. It looks like "standard" stereo playback to me.

[email protected] February 1st 05 07:27 PM


Malice wrote:
wrote:

What output connections are there on the back of your Durabrand?


The L, R, and Video outs and the component outs.
The Svideo out.

You do not appear to have multi channel processing. Either you would


have an optical or coax out, or pre-amps out to drive L, R , Centre,

Sub
and Surround L and Surround R, or speaker terminals to attach your

"5.1"
speakers if you have on-board amplification (excepting the sub of

course
which will just need a pre-amp out). You have none of these.

If you think you were going to get 5.1 sound out of the connections

you
have, think again. It looks like "standard" stereo playback to me.


Thats what I thought too, which makes it so confusing. This should be
easy.
Could it be the TV ?


Biz February 1st 05 07:38 PM

Try playing a cd. Yes, I mean through your tv speakers. If you think it
sounds fine, then this is similar to the sound quality you should exepct
when watching a DVD. Make sure in the setup menu for the dvd player any
setting having to do with outputs should be set to PCM audio, downmix to
stereo, and also turn on dynamic range compression if it has it.

Remeber you are trying to listen to near cd-quality sound through tv
speakers, it usually doesnt do anything justice.
wrote in message
oups.com...

Malice wrote:
wrote:

What output connections are there on the back of your Durabrand?

The L, R, and Video outs and the component outs.
The Svideo out.

You do not appear to have multi channel processing. Either you would


have an optical or coax out, or pre-amps out to drive L, R , Centre,

Sub
and Surround L and Surround R, or speaker terminals to attach your

"5.1"
speakers if you have on-board amplification (excepting the sub of

course
which will just need a pre-amp out). You have none of these.

If you think you were going to get 5.1 sound out of the connections

you
have, think again. It looks like "standard" stereo playback to me.


Thats what I thought too, which makes it so confusing. This should be
easy.
Could it be the TV ?




[email protected] February 1st 05 08:05 PM


Biz wrote:
Try playing a cd. Yes, I mean through your tv speakers. If you

think it
sounds fine, then this is similar to the sound quality you should

exepct
when watching a DVD. Make sure in the setup menu for the dvd player

any
setting having to do with outputs should be set to PCM audio, downmix

to
stereo, and also turn on dynamic range compression if it has it.

Remeber you are trying to listen to near cd-quality sound through tv
speakers, it usually doesnt do anything justice.


Problem with this system is that the center channel is difficult to
hear when I have the L and R Front speakers all the way up. I was
trying to compenesate for some of that with bringing up the TV volume
which *should* have the dialogue.

Maybe a better question is can I somehow boost the center channel to
match the volume of the R and L Front speakers?

I know this is a cheap system, but I'm just trying to get the max out
of it.


wrote in message
oups.com...

Malice wrote:
wrote:

What output connections are there on the back of your

Durabrand?

The L, R, and Video outs and the component outs.
The Svideo out.

You do not appear to have multi channel processing. Either you

would

have an optical or coax out, or pre-amps out to drive L, R ,

Centre,
Sub
and Surround L and Surround R, or speaker terminals to attach

your
"5.1"
speakers if you have on-board amplification (excepting the sub of

course
which will just need a pre-amp out). You have none of these.

If you think you were going to get 5.1 sound out of the

connections
you
have, think again. It looks like "standard" stereo playback to

me.

Thats what I thought too, which makes it so confusing. This should

be
easy.
Could it be the TV ?



Malice February 1st 05 08:23 PM

wrote:


Thats what I thought too, which makes it so confusing. This should be
easy.
Could it be the TV ?


Most (European) TV's have Scart Connections, or S-Video (perhaps both
Mini Din and Phonos). If your connections to the TV phono plugs are on
a specific AV-in then make sure your TV is "tuned" or switched to that
channel. Easiest would be to use S-Video to S-Video rather than the
phono leads. THe phono leads (video) carry Composite Video and the L,R
the stereo mix. S-Video is a far superior signal to composite. IF you
use the mini-din plug connection you do not need to worry about the L,R
Phono out on your unit. THe S-Video carries both sound and vision to
your TV.

HTH

Malice February 1st 05 08:27 PM

wrote:



Problem with this system is that the center channel is difficult to
hear when I have the L and R Front speakers all the way up. I was
trying to compenesate for some of that with bringing up the TV volume
which *should* have the dialogue.

Maybe a better question is can I somehow boost the center channel to
match the volume of the R and L Front speakers?

I know this is a cheap system, but I'm just trying to get the max out
of it.

Sounds as though your unit is making a poor job of creating stereo from
the original source. THe fact it is stereo means, with the original
centre already "mixed", you cannot boost the centre. You're stuck with
what you have, me thinks.

Biz February 1st 05 10:42 PM


wrote in message
oups.com...

Biz wrote:
Try playing a cd. Yes, I mean through your tv speakers. If you

think it
sounds fine, then this is similar to the sound quality you should

exepct
when watching a DVD. Make sure in the setup menu for the dvd player

any
setting having to do with outputs should be set to PCM audio, downmix

to
stereo, and also turn on dynamic range compression if it has it.

Remeber you are trying to listen to near cd-quality sound through tv
speakers, it usually doesnt do anything justice.


Problem with this system is that the center channel is difficult to
hear when I have the L and R Front speakers all the way up. I was
trying to compenesate for some of that with bringing up the TV volume
which *should* have the dialogue.

Maybe a better question is can I somehow boost the center channel to
match the volume of the R and L Front speakers?

I know this is a cheap system, but I'm just trying to get the max out
of it.


OK, now I see it is a HTIB(home theater in a box) type system. YOu
completely threw me off when you said you connected the L/R audio out to the
tv. I thought it was just a DVD player, not an all in one. You shouldnt
have the audio connected to your tv at all then. Every av unit I have ever
seen has the ability to adjust the volume of the center and the rear
speakers in relation to the front L and R. There should be some test tone
in the players setup to adjust the speaker levels. If you have to turn it
all the way up like you seem to be indicating, you might see if you could
try different speakers. It sounds like a pretty poorly designed unit from
your previous descriptions, you might be expecting too much...




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