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Cheers bonny lad!

This series is supposed to be a good one.

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Thus spaketh Henry:
Cheers bonny lad!

This series is supposed to be a good one.


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I've enjoyed the series so far!


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Does anyone know a bittorrent location for the final episode of the last
series? have looked but cant find. NOt on usenet either.

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"Henry" wrote in message
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Cheers bonny lad!

This series is supposed to be a good one.

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Have you tried emule: www.the-realworld.de

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Have you tried emule: www.the-realworld.de

Thanks am downloading now, what a great site.

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I wouldn't bother. UPN have announced to day that they are cancelling the
show after episode 98 (May)

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Does anyone know a bittorrent location for the final episode of the last
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Cheers bonny lad!

This series is supposed to be a good one.

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Yep but there is all of series 4 to watch (Seen the first two via bittorrent
now)

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"olympus" wrote in message
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I wouldn't bother. UPN have announced to day that they are cancelling the
show after episode 98 (May)

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Does anyone know a bittorrent location for the final episode of the last
series? have looked but cant find. NOt on usenet either.

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"Henry" wrote in message
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Cheers bonny lad!

This series is supposed to be a good one.

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Henry
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On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 19:04:58 -0000, "Tumbleweed"
wrote:

Yep but there is all of series 4 to watch (Seen the first two via bittorrent
now)

The first two episodes are far & away the worst of series 4 if not of all 4
series.

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Nigel Barker wrote:
: The first two episodes are far & away the worst of series 4 if not of all 4
: series.

I have not seen ANY of Series 4 yet.....but I read that the current episode
("Babel 1") got viewing figures of ~2.8 million in the US. This is dreadful
for a country of 200 million!

"olympus" wrote in message
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I cannot understand why these days anyone would wait for a show to get to
SKY.
Just watched series 4 episode 13 of Enterprise, series five episode 13 of
CSi, and have just downloaded series 2 episode 1 of Try calling. Why wait
until SKY may or may not take them up and butcher them as they do?

Remember most Sky subscribers are couch potatoes and want everything on a
plate delivering to them...WAY too much hard work to actually get up from
the TV and risk missing something by waiting days to download umpteen
episode of TV Series ;- )

You only have to flick through Skys shopping channels to see em' advertising
the multitude of *Excercise whilst watching TV* Gizmos
Now IF commercial breaks gave electric shocks to the viewers, subscribers
would be sitting there looking like an old ad themselves for Scotch Video
Tapes!

I'd personnaly wait for the DVD's to come out on the shelves and
(hopefully!) watch without having to wait ages for commercial breaks and
also without dots dogs and other graffiti

olympus wrote:

I cannot understand why these days anyone would wait for a show to get to
SKY.
Just watched series 4 episode 13 of Enterprise, series five episode 13 of
CSi, and have just downloaded series 2 episode 1 of Try calling. Why wait
until SKY may or may not take them up and butcher them as they do?

Downloading such programmes is theft. Many people would prefer not to
do that. Why not ask "why watch Sky when you can steal the DVD from WH
Smiths"?

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In uk.media.tv.sky on Sun, 6 Feb 2005, olympus wrote :

I cannot understand why these days anyone would wait for a show to get to
SKY.

How about - if you only have a dial-up connection & can't afford
Broadband?
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"Jomtien" wrote in message
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Downloading such programmes is theft. Many people would prefer not to
do that. Why not ask "why watch Sky when you can steal the DVD from WH
Smiths"?

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Actually, that is debatable, as you are not permanently depriving the
company of the product, i.e. watch it and send it to the waste bin, plus TV
shows are not covered the same way as movies are. this is why TV torrent
sites were not attacked by the authorities the way the movies/cd sites were.
Besides, SKY only letting you watch one channel, be it BBC, ITV or one of
the others at a time, but charge you for a package when you cannot watch
them without another extra subscription is fraud & theft. :-) :-)

"olympus" wrote in message
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"Jomtien" wrote in message
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Downloading such programmes is theft. Many people would prefer not to
do that. Why not ask "why watch Sky when you can steal the DVD from WH
Smiths"?

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Actually, that is debatable, as you are not permanently depriving the
company of the product, i.e. watch it and send it to the waste bin, plus
TV shows are not covered the same way as movies are. this is why TV
torrent sites were not attacked by the authorities the way the movies/cd
sites were.
Besides, SKY only letting you watch one channel, be it BBC, ITV or one of
the others at a time, but charge you for a package when you cannot watch
them without another extra subscription is fraud & theft. :-) :-)


So stealing it from WH Smiths with the intention of taking it back is OK?

"Jomtien" wrote in message
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olympus wrote:

I cannot understand why these days anyone would wait for a show to get to
SKY.
Just watched series 4 episode 13 of Enterprise, series five episode 13 of
CSi, and have just downloaded series 2 episode 1 of Try calling. Why wait
until SKY may or may not take them up and butcher them as they do?

Downloading such programmes is theft.


In that case Jomtien, I hope you never ever either borrowed a tape of a tv
program from a friend (receiving), or even worse taped a program for someone
(stealing), because otherwise you had better turn yourself in.

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olympus wrote:

Downloading such programmes is theft. Many people would prefer not to
do that. Why not ask "why watch Sky when you can steal the DVD from WH
Smiths"?

Actually, that is debatable,

I don't think so.


as you are not permanently depriving the
company of the product, i.e. watch it and send it to the waste bin, plus TV
shows are not covered the same way as movies are. this is why TV torrent
sites were not attacked by the authorities the way the movies/cd sites were.

This is simply because the source is easier to ascertain. And what
about DVDs of TV programmes?


Besides, SKY only letting you watch one channel, be it BBC, ITV or one of
the others at a time, but charge you for a package when you cannot watch
them without another extra subscription is fraud & theft. :-) :-)

I have two digiboxes. These allow me to watch two channels at a time.
I pay no sub to anyone, least of all Sky. I do however agree that a
twin tuner VideoGuard digibox with two outputs should be available.

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Tumbleweed wrote:

Downloading such programmes is theft.

In that case Jomtien, I hope you never ever either borrowed a tape of a tv
program from a friend (receiving), or even worse taped a program for someone
(stealing), because otherwise you had better turn yourself in.

That's totally different. That is not copyright theft on a massive
scale.

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"Jomtien" wrote in message
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Tumbleweed wrote:

Downloading such programmes is theft.

In that case Jomtien, I hope you never ever either borrowed a tape of a tv
program from a friend (receiving), or even worse taped a program for
someone
(stealing), because otherwise you had better turn yourself in.

That's totally different. That is not copyright theft on a massive
scale.



********. If the first (downloading) is theft, so also is the second. The
scale is a seperate issue.

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In uk.media.tv.sky on Mon, 7 Feb 2005, guv wrote :

I cannot understand why these days anyone would wait for a show to get to
SKY.

How about - if you only have a dial-up connection & can't afford
Broadband?

Then you also wont be able to afford $ky or buy the DVDs when they
become available, so presumably not an issue for you either way?

Why would I be on a Sky NG if I didn't have Sky? It's a question of
priorities on a limited budget.

With Sky, I *know* I'll be able to see the shows, along with a whole
load of other programmes that I would watch casually, but not download.
--
Paul 'US Sitcom Fan' Hyett

Tumbleweed wrote:

In that case Jomtien, I hope you never ever either borrowed a tape of a tv
program from a friend (receiving), or even worse taped a program for
someone
(stealing), because otherwise you had better turn yourself in.

That's totally different. That is not copyright theft on a massive
scale.

********. If the first (downloading) is theft, so also is the second. The
scale is a seperate issue.

No. This is the crux of the digital rights management problem.
Depending on where you live in the EU the act of making recordings of
broadcast material for time-slip purposes is either a legal right or
is tolerated. Either way it is restricted to personal use. Downloading
digital copies of material that not been made available for download
in that form by the copyright owner is not legal anywhere in the EU,
AFAIK. The notion of scale and impersonality is also intrinsic to the
legality.

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"Jomtien" wrote in message
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Tumbleweed wrote:

In that case Jomtien, I hope you never ever either borrowed a tape of a
tv
program from a friend (receiving), or even worse taped a program for
someone
(stealing), because otherwise you had better turn yourself in.

That's totally different. That is not copyright theft on a massive
scale.

********. If the first (downloading) is theft, so also is the second. The
scale is a seperate issue.

No. This is the crux of the digital rights management problem.
Depending on where you live in the EU the act of making recordings of
broadcast material for time-slip purposes is either a legal right or
is tolerated. Either way it is restricted to personal use. Downloading
digital copies of material that not been made available for download
in that form by the copyright owner is not legal anywhere in the EU,
AFAIK. The notion of scale and impersonality is also intrinsic to the
legality.



So its legal if I send it to you as a VHS tape in the post, but not if I
send it to you as bits on a wire? And certainly the episodes of STE I
downloaded were done precisly for time slip purposes. 1episode because I
missed it ("excuse me Jomtien I missed STE last week you didnt happen to
tape it did you?...."sorry I cant lend you that tape because soemone else
alradyy looked at it") and 2 episodes time shifted into the future (as far
as Sky is concerned since they havent shown it yet).

BTW, the notion of scale and impersonality is not intrinsic to the legality,
its only intrinsic as to whether or not anyone can be bothered to prosecute
you for it. But they could do.
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Tumbleweed wrote:

So its legal if I send it to you as a VHS tape in the post,

No, it isn't. See below.


but not if I
send it to you as bits on a wire? And certainly the episodes of STE I
downloaded were done precisly for time slip purposes.

But the copyright owner didn't make the broadcast available in this
form. Therefore the download is not legal. It is legal (or tolerated)
for *you* to make a copy of a broadcast item on *your* VCR in *your*
house for *your* use.


BTW, the notion of scale and impersonality is not intrinsic to the legality,

Yes, it is. One copy for personal use is OK. Many copies for use by
many is not.


its only intrinsic as to whether or not anyone can be bothered to prosecute
you for it. But they could do.

Depending on where you live.

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"Jomtien" wrote in message
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Tumbleweed wrote:

So its legal if I send it to you as a VHS tape in the post,

No, it isn't. See below.


but not if I
send it to you as bits on a wire? And certainly the episodes of STE I
downloaded were done precisly for time slip purposes.

But the copyright owner didn't make the broadcast available in this
form. Therefore the download is not legal. It is legal (or tolerated)
for *you* to make a copy of a broadcast item on *your* VCR in *your*
house for *your* use.


BTW, the notion of scale and impersonality is not intrinsic to the
legality,

Yes, it is. One copy for personal use is OK. Many copies for use by
many is not.]

yes but one copy for non-personal use isnt, either, as you said.


its only intrinsic as to whether or not anyone can be bothered to
prosecute
you for it. But they could do.

Depending on where you live.


So you admit you are a lawbreaker as well then?

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Tumbleweed wrote:

Yes, it is. One copy for personal use is OK. Many copies for use by
many is not.]

yes but one copy for non-personal use isnt, either, as you said.

P2P by its very nature is multiple.


Depending on where you live.

So you admit you are a lawbreaker as well then?

I readily admit that I break the law every single day but I'm not
saying which laws.

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"Jomtien" wrote in message
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Tumbleweed wrote:

Yes, it is. One copy for personal use is OK. Many copies for use by
many is not.]

yes but one copy for non-personal use isnt, either, as you said.

P2P by its very nature is multiple.


I suggest you look up what P2P stands for!!!

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