Nigel Barker wrote:
: The first two episodes are far & away the worst of series 4 if not of all 4
: series.

I have not seen ANY of Series 4 yet.....but I read that the current episode
("Babel 1") got viewing figures of ~2.8 million in the US. This is dreadful
for a country of 200 million!

"olympus" wrote in message
...
I cannot understand why these days anyone would wait for a show to get to
SKY.
Just watched series 4 episode 13 of Enterprise, series five episode 13 of
CSi, and have just downloaded series 2 episode 1 of Try calling. Why wait
until SKY may or may not take them up and butcher them as they do?

Remember most Sky subscribers are couch potatoes and want everything on a
plate delivering to them...WAY too much hard work to actually get up from
the TV and risk missing something by waiting days to download umpteen
episode of TV Series ;- )

You only have to flick through Skys shopping channels to see em' advertising
the multitude of *Excercise whilst watching TV* Gizmos
Now IF commercial breaks gave electric shocks to the viewers, subscribers
would be sitting there looking like an old ad themselves for Scotch Video
Tapes!

I'd personnaly wait for the DVD's to come out on the shelves and
(hopefully!) watch without having to wait ages for commercial breaks and
also without dots dogs and other graffiti

olympus wrote:

I cannot understand why these days anyone would wait for a show to get to
SKY.
Just watched series 4 episode 13 of Enterprise, series five episode 13 of
CSi, and have just downloaded series 2 episode 1 of Try calling. Why wait
until SKY may or may not take them up and butcher them as they do?

Downloading such programmes is theft. Many people would prefer not to
do that. Why not ask "why watch Sky when you can steal the DVD from WH
Smiths"?

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The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/6u4p9
How to get UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
Fed up with logos / red buttons? : http://logofreetv.org/
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In uk.media.tv.sky on Sun, 6 Feb 2005, olympus wrote :

I cannot understand why these days anyone would wait for a show to get to
SKY.

How about - if you only have a dial-up connection & can't afford
Broadband?
--
Paul 'US Sitcom Fan' Hyett

"Jomtien" wrote in message
...
Downloading such programmes is theft. Many people would prefer not to
do that. Why not ask "why watch Sky when you can steal the DVD from WH
Smiths"?

--
Actually, that is debatable, as you are not permanently depriving the
company of the product, i.e. watch it and send it to the waste bin, plus TV
shows are not covered the same way as movies are. this is why TV torrent
sites were not attacked by the authorities the way the movies/cd sites were.
Besides, SKY only letting you watch one channel, be it BBC, ITV or one of
the others at a time, but charge you for a package when you cannot watch
them without another extra subscription is fraud & theft. :-) :-)

"olympus" wrote in message
...

"Jomtien" wrote in message
...
Downloading such programmes is theft. Many people would prefer not to
do that. Why not ask "why watch Sky when you can steal the DVD from WH
Smiths"?

--
Actually, that is debatable, as you are not permanently depriving the
company of the product, i.e. watch it and send it to the waste bin, plus
TV shows are not covered the same way as movies are. this is why TV
torrent sites were not attacked by the authorities the way the movies/cd
sites were.
Besides, SKY only letting you watch one channel, be it BBC, ITV or one of
the others at a time, but charge you for a package when you cannot watch
them without another extra subscription is fraud & theft. :-) :-)


So stealing it from WH Smiths with the intention of taking it back is OK?

"Jomtien" wrote in message
...
olympus wrote:

I cannot understand why these days anyone would wait for a show to get to
SKY.
Just watched series 4 episode 13 of Enterprise, series five episode 13 of
CSi, and have just downloaded series 2 episode 1 of Try calling. Why wait
until SKY may or may not take them up and butcher them as they do?

Downloading such programmes is theft.


In that case Jomtien, I hope you never ever either borrowed a tape of a tv
program from a friend (receiving), or even worse taped a program for someone
(stealing), because otherwise you had better turn yourself in.

--
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olympus wrote:

Downloading such programmes is theft. Many people would prefer not to
do that. Why not ask "why watch Sky when you can steal the DVD from WH
Smiths"?

Actually, that is debatable,

I don't think so.


as you are not permanently depriving the
company of the product, i.e. watch it and send it to the waste bin, plus TV
shows are not covered the same way as movies are. this is why TV torrent
sites were not attacked by the authorities the way the movies/cd sites were.

This is simply because the source is easier to ascertain. And what
about DVDs of TV programmes?


Besides, SKY only letting you watch one channel, be it BBC, ITV or one of
the others at a time, but charge you for a package when you cannot watch
them without another extra subscription is fraud & theft. :-) :-)

I have two digiboxes. These allow me to watch two channels at a time.
I pay no sub to anyone, least of all Sky. I do however agree that a
twin tuner VideoGuard digibox with two outputs should be available.

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/6u4p9
How to get UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
Fed up with logos / red buttons? : http://logofreetv.org/
BBC gone? : http://www.astra2d.co.uk/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

Tumbleweed wrote:

Downloading such programmes is theft.

In that case Jomtien, I hope you never ever either borrowed a tape of a tv
program from a friend (receiving), or even worse taped a program for someone
(stealing), because otherwise you had better turn yourself in.

That's totally different. That is not copyright theft on a massive
scale.

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/6u4p9
How to get UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
Fed up with logos / red buttons? : http://logofreetv.org/
BBC gone? : http://www.astra2d.co.uk/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

"Jomtien" wrote in message
...
Tumbleweed wrote:

Downloading such programmes is theft.

In that case Jomtien, I hope you never ever either borrowed a tape of a tv
program from a friend (receiving), or even worse taped a program for
someone
(stealing), because otherwise you had better turn yourself in.

That's totally different. That is not copyright theft on a massive
scale.



********. If the first (downloading) is theft, so also is the second. The
scale is a seperate issue.

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