plasma
 

Try to take a look at logofree TV, watch out for screen burn THEY DONT TELL
YOU THAT IN THE SHOP

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Try to take a look at logofree TV, watch out for screen burn THEY DONT TELL
YOU THAT IN THE SHOP


Indeed.

A nice warning in the manuals to welcome you following your expensive
new purchase.

http://logofreetv.org/?mode=article_...bbc_27032002_3



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In article lgate.org,
Heracles Pollux writes

http://logofreetv.org/?mode=article_...bbc_27032002_3

Continued use of "nether the less" raised a smile, but the real beauty
was in the letter dated 18th Feb 2002 to Mr Rampton from Martyn Culling,
which clearly states that "In any event, the BBC.. ..*is* liable for
any 'burn in' damages." Oops!

Now is that a transcription error? Or did the letter really say that?
--
Kennedy
Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed;
A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's ****ed.
Python Philosophers (replace 'nospam' with 'kennedym' when replying)

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 05:49:21 +0000, Kennedy McEwen
wrote:

In article lgate.org,
Heracles Pollux writes

http://logofreetv.org/?mode=article_...bbc_27032002_3

Continued use of "nether the less" raised a smile, but the real beauty
was in the letter dated 18th Feb 2002 to Mr Rampton from Martyn Culling,
which clearly states that "In any event, the BBC.. ..*is* liable for
any 'burn in' damages." Oops!

Now is that a transcription error? Or did the letter really say that?

So how long is it safe to leave a static image on a plasma before
'burn in' occurs?

Marky P.

In article ,
says...

So how long is it safe to leave a static image on a plasma before
'burn in' occurs?



I have seen Plasma screens, but I can not see what people see in them.
They are expensive, have problems with Burn in and the quality is not
that great anyway.
To be honest, apart from LED and that is not fantastic at the moment, I
think the old CRT is still the best quality and the best value.

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 10:53:59 GMT, Marky P
wrote:

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 05:49:21 +0000, Kennedy McEwen
wrote:

In article lgate.org,
Heracles Pollux writes

http://logofreetv.org/?mode=article_...bbc_27032002_3

Continued use of "nether the less" raised a smile, but the real beauty
was in the letter dated 18th Feb 2002 to Mr Rampton from Martyn Culling,
which clearly states that "In any event, the BBC.. ..*is* liable for
any 'burn in' damages." Oops!

Now is that a transcription error? Or did the letter really say that?

So how long is it safe to leave a static image on a plasma before
'burn in' occurs?

The disclaimers from Toshiba & Panasonic posted on that site refer to 'extended
periods of time'. Of course these are weasel words as they don't define how long
is an 'extended period of time'. Is it 1 hour? 2 hours? 4 hours? 12 hours?

--
Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur

ad wrote:

I think the old CRT is still the best quality and the best value.


There only saving grace is size without excessive bulk, but me, I've
got the room and couldn't give a stuff about interior decorating
aesthetics, so an RPTV, at half the price of plasmas and LCDs, is still
the best bet if you want a screen size beyond what a CRT will give you.

Regards

Mark

In article , Marky P
writes
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 05:49:21 +0000, Kennedy McEwen
wrote:

In article lgate.org,
Heracles Pollux writes

http://logofreetv.org/?mode=article_...bbc_27032002_3

Continued use of "nether the less" raised a smile, but the real beauty
was in the letter dated 18th Feb 2002 to Mr Rampton from Martyn Culling,
which clearly states that "In any event, the BBC.. ..*is* liable for
any 'burn in' damages." Oops!

Now is that a transcription error? Or did the letter really say that?

So how long is it safe to leave a static image on a plasma before
'burn in' occurs?

Depends on the contrast of the static image, but there are examples
where it has occurred in a little as 10 hours.
--
Kennedy
Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed;
A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's ****ed.
Python Philosophers (replace 'nospam' with 'kennedym' when replying)

http://logofreetv.org/?mode=article_...bbc_27032002_3

Continued use of "nether the less" raised a smile, but the real beauty
was in the letter dated 18th Feb 2002 to Mr Rampton from Martyn Culling,
which clearly states that "In any event, the BBC.. ..*is* liable for
any 'burn in' damages." Oops!

Now is that a transcription error? Or did the letter really say that?




I assure you the letter supplied to us really said that.

The letter was straight cut-and-pasted in to our document and we don't
screw with quotes!

Although it would appear that the BBC have made a "Freudian Slip" and
admitted to liability, we know they want to riggle out of responsibility
and accountability for *anything* that they broadcast.

His typo was not a point worth jumping on!



http://logofreetv.org/



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"Mark A" wrote in message
...
I think the old CRT is still the best quality and the best value.
There only saving grace is size without excessive bulk, but me, I've
got the room and couldn't give a stuff about interior decorating
aesthetics, so an RPTV, at half the price of plasmas and LCDs, is still
the best bet if you want a screen size beyond what a CRT will give you.

the latest generation of DLP based RPTV give plasma a very good run for
their money.
And given you can pick up 46-50" HD models for just £1600-£1800 that is a
VERY good run.

Loz

"loz" wrote in message
...

"Mark A" wrote in message
...
I think the old CRT is still the best quality and the best value.
There only saving grace is size without excessive bulk, but me, I've
got the room and couldn't give a stuff about interior decorating
aesthetics, so an RPTV, at half the price of plasmas and LCDs, is still
the best bet if you want a screen size beyond what a CRT will give you.

the latest generation of DLP based RPTV give plasma a very good run for
their money.
And given you can pick up 46-50" HD models for just £1600-£1800 that is a
VERY good run.




but only if they have a UK compatible HD input - component just wont do.




--
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my Dad took me out for the evening and some girl was being a right
embarrassment
trying to get off with him, i had to pretend that i was his girlfreind
so that the stupid bitch would leave him alone, and we had a right
good laugh ahout it too.
'varizo' 26th Nov 04
http://www.audioscrobbler.com/user/dsbmusic/

"the dog from that film you saw"
wrote in message ...

I think the old CRT is still the best quality and the best value.
There only saving grace is size without excessive bulk, but me, I've
got the room and couldn't give a stuff about interior decorating
aesthetics, so an RPTV, at half the price of plasmas and LCDs, is still
the best bet if you want a screen size beyond what a CRT will give you.

the latest generation of DLP based RPTV give plasma a very good run for
their money.
And given you can pick up 46-50" HD models for just £1600-£1800 that is a
VERY good run.

but only if they have a UK compatible HD input - component just wont do.

Yes. I was referering to the UK models like the Toshiba 46WM48, Sagem HD-D45
(just becoming available) or Samsung SP46L3HX all of which have HDMI/HDCP
and so are suitable for Sky HD when it arrives.

Loz

loz wrote:

Yes. I was referering to the UK models like the Toshiba 46WM48, Sagem
HD-D45 (just becoming available) or Samsung SP46L3HX all of which have
HDMI/HDCP and so are suitable for Sky HD when it arrives.

I think I might be seriously tempted by the Tosh one if they bring out
a 50" or bigger version. Might be time to retire my trusty old Pioneer.

Regards

Mark

In article ,
says...


There only saving grace is size without excessive bulk, but me, I've
got the room and couldn't give a stuff about interior decorating
aesthetics, so an RPTV, at half the price of plasmas and LCDs, is still
the best bet if you want a screen size beyond what a CRT will give you.


A mate of mine got a RPTV, but even that is hit and miss, he have also
got an old screen, where the lights are in the front of the cabinat and
you roll up a screen. It was good in its day, in fact now he got it
working again it still looks good. But it is big and do take up a lot of
space, I suppose that is a front projection screen.

I think even if I had the space, I would keep with the CRT, it seems
better quality than any of them and I rather have quality than a 50 inch
or more screen.

I was thinking of going for a 32 inch screen before I got the one I got,
but decided against it.

In article lgate.org,
NO LOGO writes


http://logofreetv.org/?mode=article_...bbc_27032002_3

Continued use of "nether the less" raised a smile, but the real beauty
was in the letter dated 18th Feb 2002 to Mr Rampton from Martyn Culling,
which clearly states that "In any event, the BBC.. ..*is* liable for
any 'burn in' damages." Oops!

Now is that a transcription error? Or did the letter really say that?

I assure you the letter supplied to us really said that.

The letter was straight cut-and-pasted in to our document and we don't
screw with quotes!

Fine, perhaps you can do a global search and replace of "nether the
less" with "nevertheless" - you don't want to lessen your lowers. ;-)
--
Kennedy
Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed;
A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's ****ed.
Python Philosophers (replace 'nospam' with 'kennedym' when replying)

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:31:04 GMT, Nigel Barker wrote:

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 10:53:59 GMT, Marky P
wrote:

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 05:49:21 +0000, Kennedy McEwen
wrote:

In article lgate.org,
Heracles Pollux writes

http://logofreetv.org/?mode=article_...bbc_27032002_3

Continued use of "nether the less" raised a smile, but the real beauty
was in the letter dated 18th Feb 2002 to Mr Rampton from Martyn Culling,
which clearly states that "In any event, the BBC.. ..*is* liable for
any 'burn in' damages." Oops!

Now is that a transcription error? Or did the letter really say that?

So how long is it safe to leave a static image on a plasma before
'burn in' occurs?

The disclaimers from Toshiba & Panasonic posted on that site refer to 'extended
periods of time'. Of course these are weasel words as they don't define how long
is an 'extended period of time'. Is it 1 hour? 2 hours? 4 hours? 12 hours?


Does this mean that eventually all the logos and the Sky red dot of
the sat. channels will be burnt into the screen.

RagBag

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:46:09 -0000, ad
wrote:

In article ,
says...


There only saving grace is size without excessive bulk, but me, I've
got the room and couldn't give a stuff about interior decorating
aesthetics, so an RPTV, at half the price of plasmas and LCDs, is still
the best bet if you want a screen size beyond what a CRT will give you.


A mate of mine got a RPTV, but even that is hit and miss, he have also
got an old screen, where the lights are in the front of the cabinat and
you roll up a screen. It was good in its day, in fact now he got it
working again it still looks good. But it is big and do take up a lot of
space, I suppose that is a front projection screen.

I think even if I had the space, I would keep with the CRT, it seems
better quality than any of them and I rather have quality than a 50 inch
or more screen.

I was thinking of going for a 32 inch screen before I got the one I got,
but decided against it.

Well, I'm tempted by a Tosh 36" widescreen CRT as advertised in the
Hyper Fi a in What? Hifi?. Ex demo at £499! Probably sold out now :-(

Marky P.

In article ,=20
says...

I was thinking of going for a 32 inch screen before I got the one I got,=
=20
but decided against it.
=20
Well, I'm tempted by a Tosh 36" widescreen CRT as advertised in the
Hyper Fi a in What? Hifi?. Ex demo at =A3499! Probably sold out now :-(
=20

I bet that is a big old thing, the back must stick out a bit.
That is the one advantage about LED screens, they are slim and light.
PLasma and rear projection are just too big and bulky.
I wonder what they cost to run electric wise?

"ad" wrote in message
k...
In article ,
says...

I was thinking of going for a 32 inch screen before I got the one I got,
but decided against it.

Well, I'm tempted by a Tosh 36" widescreen CRT as advertised in the
Hyper Fi a in What? Hifi?. Ex demo at £499! Probably sold out now :-(


I bet that is a big old thing, the back must stick out a bit.
That is the one advantage about LED screens, they are slim and light.
PLasma and rear projection are just too big and bulky.
I wonder what they cost to run electric wise?

I must admit,the bigger the W.S TV the more the picture appears distorted
and bent, I had a 32" but got rid on the *too noticeable* bowing picture
edges... when engineers mentioned it was the earths magnetic pull and it
could'nt be repaired to be *perfect*
Don't like LCD or plasmas (LCD=does'nt last long, Plasma= Same+Sky Red dot
screen burn)
Technology is'nt always for the better :-/

I have to laugh in most electrical superstores the way they have them
looking all nice and funky, I still prefer CRT but anything over 28" is just
plain horrible (check Skys on-screen banner/info on the edges on most large
CRT TV's if the store will let you!)

"The Wizard" wrote in message
...

I have to laugh in most electrical superstores the way they have them
looking all nice and funky, I still prefer CRT but anything over 28" is
just plain horrible (check Skys on-screen banner/info on the edges on most
large CRT TV's if the store will let you!)

You must only ever look at bad TVs.
On my 36" philips CRT you could run a ruler down them they are so straight.

Loz

In article ,
says...




You must only ever look at bad TVs.
On my 36" philips CRT you could run a ruler down them they are so straight.


There are two problems there.
One is the price and the other is Ohiulips T.Vs are unreliable.
come to think of it most things from Philips are unreliable.

So why did I buy one of their printers?

"ad" wrote in message k...
That is the one advantage about LED screens, they are slim and light.
PLasma and rear projection are just too big and bulky.

Vs rear projection TVs I agree, but what makes you say that LCDs are
slimmer than plasma? The Sharp Aquos LCDs are pretty much exactly
the same thickness as the Panny 6/7 series panels (9cm) and I was suprised
at just how heavy the LCDs are, OK not as heavy as a Plasma but still
heavy enough to need good wall fixings. The 37" Aquos weighs 16.5kg
vs 24Kg for a Panny 37" panel. I grant you that there is a difference in
weight, but both are still heavy.

- Julian

"loz" wrote in message
...

"The Wizard" wrote in message
...

I have to laugh in most electrical superstores the way they have them
looking all nice and funky, I still prefer CRT but anything over 28" is
just plain horrible (check Skys on-screen banner/info on the edges on
most large CRT TV's if the store will let you!)

You must only ever look at bad TVs.
On my 36" philips CRT you could run a ruler down them they are so
straight.

Loz


Agreed, my 36" Panasonic checks out with a ruler and Video Essentials test
DVD. I made a few very minor adjustments in the service mode and the picture
is millimetre perfect with 2% overscan.

Richard.

Fine, perhaps you can do a global search and replace of "nether the
less" with "nevertheless" - you don't want to lessen your lowers. ;-)


Corrected. Much obliged, thank you.

http://logofreetv.org/


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"ad" wrote in message
k...

You must only ever look at bad TVs.
On my 36" philips CRT you could run a ruler down them they are so
straight.
There are two problems there.
One is the price and the other is Ohiulips T.Vs are unreliable.
come to think of it most things from Philips are unreliable.

been ok for me for 5 years

loz