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[email protected] January 14th 05 02:36 AM

Nebula digiTV and Xbox
 
Hi,

I have a PC with Nebula's digiTV, and on the same home network I also
have an XBox running the excellent XBMC home entertainment software.
Because my computer is in the den, and the xbox is in the living room
under the TV, I'm trying the get the XBox to talk to the digiTV over
the network.
So far the xbox can view and set the digitv's timers, view the epg,
change channels, start recording, stop recording, view a thumnail of
the channel the digiTV is tuned to, that sort of thing, all via
digiTV's HTTP interface.
Now I want to stream the digitTV picture to the XBox. Does anyone
happen to know anything about digiTV's streaming? Running digiTV as the
server, you can stream video to another PC running the same application
in client mode. Does this mean there is an MPEG stream on the network
that can be tapped into with the XBox? Or is it trickier than that? The
XBox's scripting language is Python, which has sufficed for all the
other controls.

PS, anyone with the same setup interested in my digiTV script, contact
me, and I'll give you a copy.

cheers

john


Neil Deadman January 14th 05 10:00 AM

That sound a great idea!! Never thought of that!!

Can I get a copy of the script and info on how its set up?

Also, do you have XBMC setup to read from PCs shared drives? I can't get
mine working can you send info on this also if possible??!!

Thanks

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Hi,

I have a PC with Nebula's digiTV, and on the same home network I also
have an XBox running the excellent XBMC home entertainment software.
Because my computer is in the den, and the xbox is in the living room
under the TV, I'm trying the get the XBox to talk to the digiTV over
the network.
So far the xbox can view and set the digitv's timers, view the epg,
change channels, start recording, stop recording, view a thumnail of
the channel the digiTV is tuned to, that sort of thing, all via
digiTV's HTTP interface.
Now I want to stream the digitTV picture to the XBox. Does anyone
happen to know anything about digiTV's streaming? Running digiTV as the
server, you can stream video to another PC running the same application
in client mode. Does this mean there is an MPEG stream on the network
that can be tapped into with the XBox? Or is it trickier than that? The
XBox's scripting language is Python, which has sufficed for all the
other controls.

PS, anyone with the same setup interested in my digiTV script, contact
me, and I'll give you a copy.

cheers

john




[email protected] January 14th 05 11:39 AM

I was thinking about doing something similar myself. I was thinking of
using Gentoox MCE for XBOX ( http://gentoox.shallax.com ) rather than
XBMC and using VideoLAN. VideoLAN is the only other client application
I know of that is able to receive the DigiTV stream (& I don't even
know how reliable that is).

If you want to access live TV/radio using XBMC would it be possible to
change to the channel you want, start a recording and then play back
the recording as it's happening with XBMC?

I'd be very interested in a copy of your script, my email is
Thanks!


[email protected] January 14th 05 11:43 AM

On 13 Jan 2005 17:36:44 -0800, wrote:

I have a PC with Nebula's digiTV, and on the same home network I also
have an XBox running the excellent XBMC home entertainment software.
Because my computer is in the den, and the xbox is in the living room
under the TV, I'm trying the get the XBox to talk to the digiTV over
the network.
So far the xbox can view and set the digitv's timers, view the epg,
change channels, start recording, stop recording, view a thumnail of
the channel the digiTV is tuned to, that sort of thing, all via
digiTV's HTTP interface.
Now I want to stream the digitTV picture to the XBox. Does anyone
happen to know anything about digiTV's streaming? Running digiTV as the
server, you can stream video to another PC running the same application
in client mode. Does this mean there is an MPEG stream on the network
that can be tapped into with the XBox? Or is it trickier than that? The
XBox's scripting language is Python, which has sufficed for all the
other controls.


From reading the manual, it would appear that nebula have created
their own custom protocol and software to view the streams, so there's
very little chance of you being able to script a viewer yourself in
Python. In theory it should be possible to create an addon that reads
the stream in the same way that others have pulled data from a Tivo or
DirecTV in the US, but this may need to be built in to the XBMC
kernel. I'm no expert on XBMC, so that bit could be a wrong assumption
on my part.

The first people to speak to would be Nebula themselves. Find out what
they're doing with the datastream and if you can have any technical
descriptions of their streaming process in order to build your own
interface. Once you have that, take it to the XMBC forums and see if
anyone can help there.

Lee.
--
Founder, DVD Debate
http://www.dvddebate.com
lee at dvddebate dot com

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tony sayer January 14th 05 07:58 PM

In article .com,
writes
Hi,

I have a PC with Nebula's digiTV, and on the same home network I also
have an XBox running the excellent XBMC home entertainment software.
Because my computer is in the den, and the xbox is in the living room
under the TV, I'm trying the get the XBox to talk to the digiTV over
the network.
So far the xbox can view and set the digitv's timers, view the epg,
change channels, start recording, stop recording, view a thumnail of
the channel the digiTV is tuned to, that sort of thing, all via
digiTV's HTTP interface.
Now I want to stream the digitTV picture to the XBox. Does anyone
happen to know anything about digiTV's streaming? Running digiTV as the
server, you can stream video to another PC running the same application
in client mode. Does this mean there is an MPEG stream on the network
that can be tapped into with the XBox? Or is it trickier than that? The
XBox's scripting language is Python, which has sufficed for all the
other controls.


Yes we've had this running but its a bit flaky and falls over at the
earliest opportunity;(

PS, anyone with the same setup interested in my digiTV script, contact
me, and I'll give you a copy.

cheers

john


--
Tony Sayer


[email protected] January 17th 05 12:55 PM

I've found some software called TSReader that can stream from the
Nebula Card to XBMC but it costs US$99 (about =A355). TSReader can be
downloaded from he http://www.coolstf.com/tsreader/ it can stream to
VideoLAN clients or XBMC clients. You can download a free version to
try it out but streaming is limited to 1 minute.

Instructions on their website:

** How do I play a channel with XBox Media Player?

This assumes you've already got XBox Media Player operational and you
know how to FTP into your XBox.

* Find the config.xml file in the XBMP folder (normally
F:\Apps\XBMP)
* Edit it on your PC and locate the section videos
* Add a section like the following:

share
nameTSReader via XNS/name
/url
cachesize8192/cachesize
/share

* Replace the 10.10.10.15 with the IP address of the PC that's
running TSReader.
* Transfer config.xml back to the XBox and (re)start XBMP.
* Run TSReader and click on a PMT entry for one of the video
channels in the mux - it doesn't matter which one.
* Click on Playback/XNS Server.
* On the XBox, go to My Videos in XBMP, select the entry you
created in the config.xml file and you'll get a list of the video
services in the mux - select one of these and press the A button to
start playback. To change to another channel, press the X button a
select a new stream from the list.


** How to do I play a channel with XBox Media Center?

Same guidelines for XBox Media Player, but the XML is slightly
different. You need to:

* Edit the XboxMediaCenter.xml file
* Find the section video
* Add a section similar to:

bookmark
nameTSReader via XNS/name
pathxns://10.10.10.15:1400//path
/bookmark


Ingrid February 15th 05 03:20 PM

this script sound great - can i have a copy ?

nathan February 18th 05 02:27 PM

Hi all - well, just found last night that when recording a file on my
main PC, i can veiw it while still recording having it streamed
through ccxstream... not sure how useful it is... but its something.
its not really live streaming - as you have to record it, but you can
move about the file easily, only break point is the file will end if
you fast forward right to the end of the file..

Oh well, I also would love to see this script come through !!


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