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Paul McCahan shaped the electrons to say:
PROBLEM is, the cost to sell those SAME Batteries has been raised by about .62¢!!! Not a nickel or a dime, but a LOT OF FREAKING Money. Big ****ing Deal. I've been buying and selling on eBay for many years. I don't give a ****. The buyer doesn't pay this fee, the SELLER DOES... you can't just raise your price... since PRICE is determined by the Market in and OUT of eBay. So your profits go down. Tough ****. If you don't like it, find some other way to do business. eBay does NOT owe ANYONE. They're a business, they're not obligated to help you make your living on small margins. If this is enough to put a serious dent in some sellers, I'm not going to cry for them, they'll have to find other ways to make a living. You know, like before eBay existed? Or they'll have to adjust how they sell, or what they sell. That's life, suck it up. In other words, it will make it less viable to sell your stuff on eBay, So what? thus less choice for buyers... This is a SERIOUS issues for the main reason that eBay is just a website... they don't have any real cost outside of maintaining a very complex server. They are spending money on expensive TV commercials, buying up Rent.com, Craig's List, without our approval, thus driving up OUR fees. "without our approval"? Who the **** do you think you are, anyway? They're a business. They're in business to *make money*. The only approval they need is from their board of directors and the shareholders - and the feds, of course. Users can take it or leave it - period. That's how our system, capitalism, works - perhaps you've heard of it. There are other auction sites if you really don't like eBay. There are other ways to sell online too - Amazon zShops, setting up your own site (osCommerce is an open source shoppign cart package written in PHP which is solid and widely used), etc. And it sounds like you don't have any clue what it costs to run a major IT infrastructure. 'They don't have nay real cost outside of maintain a very complex server.' Try hundreds of servers, and paying for massive amounts of bandwidth, and 24 hour IT staff, and programmers, and support, etc. I've worked for large companies that ran large server installations (Lucent, GTE Internetworking) - the costs are *massive*. And those TV commercials are called *marketing*! What do you think drives many of the buyers to the site in the first place? eBay was once upon a time a marketplace used mostly by geeks who happened to be online. The marketing they've done is what turned them into a household name and drove up the number of buyers and sellers. Without marketing they'd be like any one of a number of auction sites that started around the same time - and died, or linger on pitifully. If you sold on eBay you'd be raging mad, if you buy on ebay, it won't become clear that the show is going to get very quiet after Feb 18th. I sell on eBay - I couldn't care less about this. I buy on eBay - and I doubt I'll notice any change, except maybe some whiny *******s will have left. And yes, I *am* being harsh. I'm sick of snivelling twits demanding corporations bend over to make their lives easier, especially when they do it in a way that sounds like they feel their *owed* something. Like all the people who whine, bitch, and moan about how evil PayPal is - but refuse to switch to any other payment system because PayPal is so 'easy'. Those people need to shut the **** up - either put up or shut up. If you've going to keep using PP, stop whining when they freeze your account and keep your money. You asked for it. ebay needs to solve this problem before it's too late. I think eBay *is* solving their problem. Good riddance. Maybe they'll all go start their own site - eBray.com. -MZ, RHCE #806199299900541, ex-CISSP #3762 -- URL:mailto:megazoneatmegazone.org Gweep, Discordian, Author, Engineer, me. "A little nonsense now and then, is relished by the wisest men" 508-755-4098 URL:http://www.megazone.org/ URL:http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ Eris |
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TravelinMan wrote: No, that's not how it works. When someone has something used to sell what's the first thing they do. Check how much it goes for on ebay and set the price accordingly. NO kidding? So Walmart sets their prices by going to eBay to see what items are selling for? Wow. YOu learn something new every day. Yes, you do. Until your post, I was unaware that Walmart sold used goods. -- --Tim Smith |
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@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net, [email protected] potato.com says... In article , TravelinMan wrote: No, that's not how it works. When someone has something used to sell what's the first thing they do. Check how much it goes for on ebay and set the price accordingly. NO kidding? So Walmart sets their prices by going to eBay to see what items are selling for? Wow. YOu learn something new every day. Yes, you do. Until your post, I was unaware that Walmart sold used goods. Yeah, and I was unaware that e-bay sold new stuff. Go figure. -- Cam |
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 03:55:51 -0500, Invid Fan
wrote: From what I've seen on Ebay, this is probably a reaction to sellers listing products at a rediculously low price and making all the profit from the shipping cost. Not unusual to see a buy now price of $1 and $10 in shipping fees, of which Ebay gets nothing. But won't this practice get *worse* as sellers attempt to recoup fees in inflated shipping costs? For all my listings I add a "shipping/packaging/listing & paypal fee". JW |
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:53:29 GMT, Chris Phillipo
wrote: I already see some sellers charging $30 for regular mail within the US on 1 pound items so I don't know how much worse it could get :) -- If you believe in basic economics, then the bid prices should be lower as a result. Ebay, by taking a higher percentage, and sellers, by therefore charging higher shipping, will drive prices down. JW |
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