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MegaZone January 18th 05 03:23 AM

Paul McCahan shaped the electrons to say:
PROBLEM is, the cost to sell those SAME Batteries has been raised by
about .62¢!!! Not a nickel or a dime, but a LOT OF FREAKING Money.


Big ****ing Deal.

I've been buying and selling on eBay for many years. I don't give a
****.

The buyer doesn't pay this fee, the SELLER DOES... you can't just raise
your price... since PRICE is determined by the Market in and OUT of eBay.


So your profits go down. Tough ****. If you don't like it, find
some other way to do business. eBay does NOT owe ANYONE. They're a
business, they're not obligated to help you make your living on small
margins. If this is enough to put a serious dent in some sellers, I'm
not going to cry for them, they'll have to find other ways to make a
living. You know, like before eBay existed? Or they'll have to
adjust how they sell, or what they sell. That's life, suck it up.

In other words, it will make it less viable to sell your stuff on eBay,


So what?

thus less choice for buyers... This is a SERIOUS issues for the main
reason that eBay is just a website... they don't have any real cost
outside of maintaining a very complex server. They are spending money on
expensive TV commercials, buying up Rent.com, Craig's List, without our
approval, thus driving up OUR fees.


"without our approval"? Who the **** do you think you are, anyway?
They're a business. They're in business to *make money*. The only
approval they need is from their board of directors and the
shareholders - and the feds, of course. Users can take it or leave it
- period. That's how our system, capitalism, works - perhaps you've
heard of it. There are other auction sites if you really don't like
eBay. There are other ways to sell online too - Amazon zShops,
setting up your own site (osCommerce is an open source shoppign cart
package written in PHP which is solid and widely used), etc.

And it sounds like you don't have any clue what it costs to run a
major IT infrastructure. 'They don't have nay real cost outside of
maintain a very complex server.' Try hundreds of servers, and paying
for massive amounts of bandwidth, and 24 hour IT staff, and
programmers, and support, etc. I've worked for large companies that
ran large server installations (Lucent, GTE Internetworking) - the
costs are *massive*.

And those TV commercials are called *marketing*! What do you think
drives many of the buyers to the site in the first place? eBay was
once upon a time a marketplace used mostly by geeks who happened to be
online. The marketing they've done is what turned them into a
household name and drove up the number of buyers and sellers. Without
marketing they'd be like any one of a number of auction sites that
started around the same time - and died, or linger on pitifully.

If you sold on eBay you'd be raging mad, if you buy on ebay, it won't
become clear that the show is going to get very quiet after Feb 18th.


I sell on eBay - I couldn't care less about this. I buy on eBay - and
I doubt I'll notice any change, except maybe some whiny *******s will
have left.

And yes, I *am* being harsh. I'm sick of snivelling twits demanding
corporations bend over to make their lives easier, especially when
they do it in a way that sounds like they feel their *owed* something.

Like all the people who whine, bitch, and moan about how evil PayPal
is - but refuse to switch to any other payment system because PayPal
is so 'easy'. Those people need to shut the **** up - either put up
or shut up. If you've going to keep using PP, stop whining when they
freeze your account and keep your money. You asked for it.

ebay needs to solve this problem before it's too late.


I think eBay *is* solving their problem. Good riddance.

Maybe they'll all go start their own site - eBray.com.

-MZ, RHCE #806199299900541, ex-CISSP #3762
--
URL:mailto:megazoneatmegazone.org Gweep, Discordian, Author, Engineer, me.
"A little nonsense now and then, is relished by the wisest men" 508-755-4098
URL:http://www.megazone.org/ URL:http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ Eris



MegaZone January 18th 05 03:27 AM

shaped the electrons to say:
RS wrote:
Meh, I find Ebay rather pointless for most stuff anyway. People bid stuff up
to at least discount retail and then pay double the shipping costs. Unless
its last years stuff, there are few deals to be found on ebay.

For sure. However, I have gotten some pretty good deals at times as well.


I have found good deals there over the years. The trick is to NOT let
yourself get caught up in a bidding frenzy. If the price goes too high
- walk away.

I also unabashedly snipe. I don't care what people think. It is
pointless to toss in a bid early on and keep bidding it up. I'll wait
and jump in at the last minute, unless the price has already gone too
high. I've been called many nasty things - I still won. And I do it
manually to be fair, not using eSnipe, or tools like that.

When I sell things I have had people bid on my old VHS tapes, etc, and
drive the price up not only higher than retail - but higher than DVD
retail (which is generally why I sell VHS, because I bought the DVD),
before shipping. And I usually put the original MSRP right in the
listing, making it doubly dumb. :-)

-MZ, RHCE #806199299900541, ex-CISSP #3762
--
URL:mailto:megazoneatmegazone.org Gweep, Discordian, Author, Engineer, me.
"A little nonsense now and then, is relished by the wisest men" 508-755-4098
URL:http://www.megazone.org/ URL:http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ Eris

Tim Smith January 18th 05 04:47 AM

In article ,
TravelinMan wrote:
No, that's not how it works. When someone has something used to sell
what's the first thing they do. Check how much it goes for on ebay and
set the price accordingly.


NO kidding?

So Walmart sets their prices by going to eBay to see what items are
selling for?

Wow. YOu learn something new every day.


Yes, you do. Until your post, I was unaware that Walmart sold used goods.

--
--Tim Smith

Cam Penner January 18th 05 05:43 AM

In article NF%Gd.820$Ju1.601
@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net, [email protected]
potato.com says...
In article ,
TravelinMan wrote:
No, that's not how it works. When someone has something used to sell
what's the first thing they do. Check how much it goes for on ebay and
set the price accordingly.


NO kidding?

So Walmart sets their prices by going to eBay to see what items are
selling for?

Wow. YOu learn something new every day.


Yes, you do. Until your post, I was unaware that Walmart sold used goods.


Yeah, and I was unaware that e-bay sold new stuff. Go
figure.

--
Cam

ELVIS2000 January 18th 05 06:37 AM

On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 03:55:51 -0500, Invid Fan
wrote:


From what I've seen on Ebay, this is probably a reaction to sellers
listing products at a rediculously low price and making all the profit
from the shipping cost. Not unusual to see a buy now price of $1 and
$10 in shipping fees, of which Ebay gets nothing.


But won't this practice get *worse* as sellers attempt to recoup fees
in inflated shipping costs? For all my listings I add a
"shipping/packaging/listing & paypal fee".

JW

Rob Munach January 20th 05 01:25 PM

MegaZone wrote:

shaped the electrons to say:

RS wrote:

Meh, I find Ebay rather pointless for most stuff anyway. People bid stuff up
to at least discount retail and then pay double the shipping costs. Unless
its last years stuff, there are few deals to be found on ebay.


For sure. However, I have gotten some pretty good deals at times as well.



I have found good deals there over the years. The trick is to NOT let
yourself get caught up in a bidding frenzy. If the price goes too high
- walk away.

I also unabashedly snipe. I don't care what people think. It is
pointless to toss in a bid early on and keep bidding it up. I'll wait
and jump in at the last minute, unless the price has already gone too
high. I've been called many nasty things - I still won. And I do it
manually to be fair, not using eSnipe, or tools like that.

When I sell things I have had people bid on my old VHS tapes, etc, and
drive the price up not only higher than retail - but higher than DVD
retail (which is generally why I sell VHS, because I bought the DVD),
before shipping. And I usually put the original MSRP right in the
listing, making it doubly dumb. :-)

-MZ, RHCE #806199299900541, ex-CISSP #3762

Yeah, it is pointless to even bid on an item until the last 30 seconds
or so. I do not understand that mentality. I wait to the end and then
manually bid the maximum I am willing to spend. If I win, great, if not
so be it.

--
Rob Munach, PE
Excel Engineering
PO Box 1264
Carrboro, NC 27510

ELVIS2000 January 29th 05 07:40 PM

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:53:29 GMT, Chris Phillipo
wrote:


I already see some sellers charging $30 for regular mail within the US
on 1 pound items so I don't know how much worse it could get :)
--


If you believe in basic economics, then the bid prices should be lower
as a result. Ebay, by taking a higher percentage, and sellers, by
therefore charging higher shipping, will drive prices down.

JW


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