In article , Paul McCahan
wrote:

Mike wrote:

But it's not a PROBLEM! Again, sellers will just raise their prices to
cover these small increases. No one cares.

Mike

Wrong Mike. Sounds as if you know little about economics.

An item that sells at auction for $10, like a set of 4 Lithium Batteries.

Will still sell after February 18th for $10.

PROBLEM is, the cost to sell those SAME Batteries has been raised by
about .62¢!!! Not a nickel or a dime, but a LOT OF FREAKING Money.

The buyer doesn't pay this fee, the SELLER DOES... you can't just raise
your price... since PRICE is determined by the Market in and OUT of eBay.

In other words, it will make it less viable to sell your stuff on eBay,
thus less choice for buyers... This is a SERIOUS issues for the main
reason that eBay is just a website... they don't have any real cost
outside of maintaining a very complex server. They are spending money on
expensive TV commercials, buying up Rent.com, Craig's List, without our
approval, thus driving up OUR fees.

If you sold on eBay you'd be raging mad, if you buy on ebay, it won't
become clear that the show is going to get very quiet after Feb 18th.

Lot's of people are leaving.

http://www.nolistingday.com/closing_stores.htm

ebay needs to solve this problem before it's too late.

From what I've seen on Ebay, this is probably a reaction to sellers
listing products at a rediculously low price and making all the profit
from the shipping cost. Not unusual to see a buy now price of $1 and
$10 in shipping fees, of which Ebay gets nothing.

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In article ,
Mike wrote:

In article ,
Paul McCahan wrote:

Mike wrote:

But it's not a PROBLEM! Again, sellers will just raise their prices to
cover these small increases. No one cares.

Mike

Wrong Mike. Sounds as if you know little about economics.

An item that sells at auction for $10, like a set of 4 Lithium Batteries.

Will still sell after February 18th for $10.

PROBLEM is, the cost to sell those SAME Batteries has been raised by
about .62¢!!! Not a nickel or a dime, but a LOT OF FREAKING Money.

The buyer doesn't pay this fee, the SELLER DOES... you can't just raise
your price... since PRICE is determined by the Market in and OUT of eBay.

No, the seller will just raise the price to $11. What part of this do
you not understand?

The part you apparently don't understand is that the price is set by the
market - not by the seller alone.

Paul McCahan ) wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
Lot's of people are leaving.

http://www.nolistingday.com/closing_stores.htm

As of today, eBay has 129,000 different stores listed, and that page shows 29
as "leaving". That's 0.022% of the total...not very significant.

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Invid Fan ) wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
From what I've seen on Ebay, this is probably a reaction to sellers
listing products at a rediculously low price and making all the profit
from the shipping cost. Not unusual to see a buy now price of $1 and
$10 in shipping fees, of which Ebay gets nothing.

The new fee structure would make that happen even more often, not less.
Any time the eBay fees go up, sellers will raise their shipping costs to
compensate. It's the one place you can guarantee a fixed payment (assuming
your item sells at all).

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In article ,
Jeff Rife wrote:

Paul McCahan ) wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
Lot's of people are leaving.

http://www.nolistingday.com/closing_stores.htm

As of today, eBay has 129,000 different stores listed, and that page shows 29
as "leaving". That's 0.022% of the total...not very significant.

Depends on what percentage of the leaving stores actually found and
signed the petition.

But, no, it's not likely to put eBay out of business. It will more
likely impact people like me - who occasionally sell a few items rather
than send them to Goodwill. If eBay's keeping 22% of the selling price,
why should I go through the hassle of selling?

Jeff Rife wrote:

http://www.nolistingday.com/closing_stores.htm

As of today, eBay has 129,000 different stores listed, and that page shows 29
as "leaving". That's 0.022% of the total...not very significant.

yes, but that's an upstart website, alive for only a few days - the real
numbers are he

Posted by webnet ( 8990 ) on Jan-12-05 at 19:40:27 PST Auctions AMAZING.
NOW since the last post at 19:26 stores 132,050 now its only 131,975 a
loss of 75 stores closed in the last 20 minutes. I will check again in
the morning to see how bad ebay has damaged themselves. AMAZING...
sellers SPEAK OUT.

I checked the number of stores earlier and found 5,180 pages of them
(@ 25 stores per page), hence the current count at 'about' 129,500.

To check the number do an advanced search, click on stores, search
with 'no' keyword entries, then click on list alphabetically ...... on
the results page scroll to the bottom and check the number of pages.
Multiply by 25.

On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:10:28 -0600, "RS"
wrote:

Meh, I find Ebay rather pointless for most stuff anyway. People bid stuff up
to at least discount retail and then pay double the shipping costs. Unless
its last years stuff, there are few deals to be found on ebay.

\
Agreed. There are not many deals on eGay. It amazes me how many
people pay either close to or above retail and then get screwed with
inflated shipping costs. Bunch of morons!

In article , Mike wrote:
Right, and the cost of bringing the goods to the market just went up.
Everyone else selling the same goods will also raise their prices. Their
only other option is to absorb the loss. Do you *really* think many are
going to do that?

The part that you don't seem to understand is that the seller will raise
his price to cover his costs.

I can't believe you don't understand this. When costs go up, sellers
raise prices. It has always been thus.

There is more to the "market price" than the cost of the goods alone.
There are other expenses and factors to consider. This is a prime
example.

That's fine for "buy it now" prices, but I believe most people are talking
about auctions.

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--Tim Smith

In article ,
TravelinMan wrote:

In article ,
Jeff Rife wrote:

Paul McCahan ) wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
Lot's of people are leaving.

http://www.nolistingday.com/closing_stores.htm

As of today, eBay has 129,000 different stores listed, and that page shows
29
as "leaving". That's 0.022% of the total...not very significant.

Depends on what percentage of the leaving stores actually found and
signed the petition.

But, no, it's not likely to put eBay out of business. It will more
likely impact people like me - who occasionally sell a few items rather
than send them to Goodwill. If eBay's keeping 22% of the selling price,
why should I go through the hassle of selling?

Where did you get 22%?

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In article ,
Mike wrote:

In article ,
TravelinMan wrote:

No, the seller will just raise the price to $11. What part of this do
you not understand?

The part you apparently don't understand is that the price is set by the
market - not by the seller alone.

Right, and the cost of bringing the goods to the market just went up.
Everyone else selling the same goods will also raise their prices.
Their only other option is to absorb the loss. Do you *really* think
many are going to do that?

You apparently think ebay is the only place people can buy stuff.


The part that you don't seem to understand is that the seller will raise
his price to cover his costs.

But if his prices are already as close to what somebody can buy the item
for elsewhere, and he raises it - he looses the sales.


I can't believe you don't understand this. When costs go up, sellers
raise prices. It has always been thus.

I can't believe that you think raising cost is such a 'cure all'.
especially when, as I mentioned above, ebay isn't the only place to buy
stuff.


There is more to the "market price" than the cost of the goods alone.
There are other expenses and factors to consider. This is a prime
example.

Mike

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Tim