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UnionPac2004 November 19th 04 12:25 AM

"coyotepx" wrote:



Again, here's what I've now come up with. Once I get a house, I will =
invest big(ger) into my system. Until then, I'll start in this =
price/quality range.

Inifinity TSS-750 5.1 Speaker Set =
$630(
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-76Yu7lt...ew.asp?i=3D10=
8TSS750P&s=3D0&cc=3D01)
Sony STR-DE 597 Receiver $180 =
(http://www.crutchfield.com/S-76Yu7lt...sp?i=3D158STD=
597B&s=3D0&cc=3D01)
Onkyo DVD Player $85 =
(http://www.crutchfield.com/S-76Yu7lt...sp?i=3D580DVS=
301S&s=3D0&cc=3D07)


Have you heard that speaker package before? Does Crutchfield offer a liberal
return policy if you're not happy with them? I have not personally heard them
myself, and buying speakers without hearing them first would not be the route I
would take...

Also, unless Sony has made improvements in their DE series of receivers, I
would avoid them. Although if you plan on upgrading to a better receiver
eventually, it may not matter.

Jeff

David B. November 19th 04 01:09 AM

UnionPac2004 wrote:
"coyotepx" wrote:




Again, here's what I've now come up with. Once I get a house, I will =
invest big(ger) into my system. Until then, I'll start in this =
price/quality range.

Inifinity TSS-750 5.1 Speaker Set =
$630(
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-76Yu7lt...ew.asp?i=3D10=
8TSS750P&s=3D0&cc=3D01)
Sony STR-DE 597 Receiver $180 =
(http://www.crutchfield.com/S-76Yu7lt...sp?i=3D158STD=
597B&s=3D0&cc=3D01)
Onkyo DVD Player $85 =
(http://www.crutchfield.com/S-76Yu7lt...sp?i=3D580DVS=
301S&s=3D0&cc=3D07)



Have you heard that speaker package before? Does Crutchfield offer a liberal
return policy if you're not happy with them? I have not personally heard them
myself, and buying speakers without hearing them first would not be the route I
would take...


With the good internet direct speaker companies like Ascend, AV123,
Axiom, etc, you have a minimum of 30 days to try the equipment in your
own home. You can return them for the cost of shipping for any reason
during the trial period. It's pretty easy to get the trial period
extended if you call the company and state a reason.
A bit of research will narrow down which company has speakers that best
fit the situation. I went with Ascend's but in coyotepx situation, the
AV123 package looks ideal. Low end Infinity's aren't even in the same
league.

Also, unless Sony has made improvements in their DE series of receivers, I
would avoid them. Although if you plan on upgrading to a better receiver
eventually, it may not matter.


Good advice. Sony has taken a wrong turn with the DE's. There's lots
of better values out there.

David


Rich M. November 19th 04 01:57 AM

On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 04:24:35 -0600, "coyotepx"
wrote:

Great advice from everyone as I'll consider all that I've read here. However, no one answered the question of getting a DVD player with DVD-A and SACD capabilities. Is it worth it for movie purposes only?


I love mine, a Pioneer 563A. There is a Pioneer 578A now for around
$130.

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-eivFG4w...V578AS&g=54700

Best audio out of this thing is through the 6 channel analog outputs.
I can't tell if your receiver has an input for that.

Some nice titles for this a

SACD:
Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon stunning
Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells ditto
Elton John - Goodbye Yellow Brick Road
James Taylor - JT

DVD-A
Emerson, Lake and Palmer - Brain Salad Surgery
Doobie Brothers - The Captain and Me
Donald Fagan - The Nightfly
Yes - Fragile
Richard Thompson - Rumour and Sigh.

There are much more expensive 'universal' players out there, like the
Denon 2900 at around $700, but I doubt my less discerning ears could
tell the difference.
Rich M.

Rich Clark November 19th 04 02:16 AM


"coyotepx" wrote in message
...
Great advice from everyone as I'll consider all that I've read here.
However, no one answered the question of getting a DVD player with DVD-A and
SACD capabilities. Is it worth it for movie purposes only?


No. Movies don't have DVD-A or SACD soundtracks.

However, a "universal" player is pretty handy, in my judgement. They tend to
simply play pretty much everything: lots of different formats of audio and
video on a variety of pressed and burned media. This capability can be a
comfort in these days of home-brew disc-making.

But it's beginning to look like DVD-A and SACD are going to remain niche
formats, marketed primarily at audiophiles, with very little program
material not also available in more conventional formats. This could still
change, but it doesn't look promising IMO.

Still, in a budget system intended primarily for movie watching, there are
great players in the $60 range that will give you tremendous performance.
You can upgrade later without remorse.

Note that one thing universal players do have is internal decoders and
system setup menus, allowing them to be used with separate amplifiers, old
"DD Ready" receivers, and other equipment without decoders of their own. But
any AV receiver you buy will have its own decoders, so this point is almost
certainly moot, and the universal player's decoders are something you'd end
up paying for and not using.

RichC



November 25th 04 10:32 PM


"Jeff" wrote in message
om...
"coyotepx" wrote in message

...
I'm in the market for a new home theater system but nothing that will
force me to rob banks to pay it off. Here's what I have chosen so
far...let me have it.

Onkyo HT-S770 6.1 System $469.99
Onkyo DV-SP502 DVD Player $299.99
Sanus BF31B Black 31" Speaker Stands $59.99/pair
Harmony SST-688 Remote $199.99


I will watch more movies than I will listen to music. Is it worth $300
for a DVD player with DVD-A and SACD if I'm not going to listen to music
on it? Or will it blow me away so much that it's the only way I'll
listen to music ever again.

J


If it was me, and this is only my opinion, I'd be spending less on the
dvd player and remote, and more on the base system. Pioneer makes
universal players that play sacd and dvd-a for about $150. And decent
universal remotes can be had for $50. Put the $300 savings from those
2 items into a better home theater in a box system.

Jeff


Agreed that the DVD player is a bad choice, because its outsourced by
toshiba, which is almost a guarntee that you'll have trouble with it. Not to
mention its overpriced.
A better pick is the samsung rd841 or 941, both play dvd audio and sacd and
"upconvert" to 1080i
An even better choice is a DVD recorder, Sony has the rbx-300 which is my
latest player. The picture is outstanding, the GUI and controls intuitive,
and its currently on sale at Circuit for 359 (or 349 on the web)
Not to mention that the picture is about what you'd expect from a 300 to 400
$ player... in a word outstanding. Works like a VCR but with a better
picture.
I can record in the slowest speed and the picture is still fair
As for remote, I'd go to remote central.com. One of their advertisers are
selling refurbished pronto tsu-3000's for 199$, you can get a new one for
300$. Both prices are with a charging station. I swear by mine




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