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Mike January 2nd 05 03:46 PM

LCD TV - problems with dimly lit DVD scenes
 
I finally took the plunge and bought a LCD tv a few days ago, it was an AKAI
27" at a reduced sale price. At first I was very impressed with the picture
quality until the movie moved into a night time sequence and I couldn't see
anything of the picture!. I took the DVD out (Van Helsing) and played it on
my 24" CRT for comparison and the images in the dark scenes were all visible
ok. Thinking it was just the brightness I needed to adjust on my LCD I
brought it up as well as the contrast but still the scenes in the dim light
were just not really visible (compared with my CRT tv). Is this a general
feature of all LCD TV's that they can't reproduce dimly lit scenes very well
or have I got a sub standard tv? any feedback appreciated!

Also the sound quality on the LCD is really thin and tinny and if I keep it
am having to invest in a decent sound system for it!

thanks
Mike



Mike Ball January 2nd 05 06:12 PM


"Mike" wrote in message
...
I finally took the plunge and bought a LCD tv a few days ago, it was an
AKAI
27" at a reduced sale price. At first I was very impressed with the
picture
quality until the movie moved into a night time sequence and I couldn't
see
anything of the picture!. I took the DVD out (Van Helsing) and played it
on
my 24" CRT for comparison and the images in the dark scenes were all
visible
ok. Thinking it was just the brightness I needed to adjust on my LCD I
brought it up as well as the contrast but still the scenes in the dim
light
were just not really visible (compared with my CRT tv). Is this a general
feature of all LCD TV's that they can't reproduce dimly lit scenes very
well
or have I got a sub standard tv? any feedback appreciated!

Also the sound quality on the LCD is really thin and tinny and if I keep
it
am having to invest in a decent sound system for it!

thanks
Mike



What you've described is very typical of LCD TVs, to a varying degree. It's
a case of researching carefully and buying a decent make that's had a good
review - and if at all possible actually trying it out with a few DVDs in
the shop. Akai isn't one of the 'mainstream' makes (at least not in the
UK), I'm not sure whose panels they use.
Mike



Marcus January 2nd 05 07:05 PM



Yes, basically LCD sucks as do most of the "affordable" Plasma's out there.
Still true that CRT's offer better contrast ratio's than anything else.

If you combine the limitations of DVD MPEG compression on murky scenes with
an LCD screen you have the worst possible viewing scenario.

Basically you would get better picture quality from a VHS VCR playing in to
a cheapo CRT telly with that type of material.

Isn't the B.S. technology that folks spend their hard earned wages on a
disgrace/joke/good business depending on your viewpoint

I'm not a technophobe, just know what is not really progress when I see it
!.
--
Marcus
I like people, they are bio-degradable !.



John Russell January 2nd 05 08:32 PM


"Marcus" wrote in message
...


Yes, basically LCD sucks as do most of the "affordable" Plasma's out
there. Still true that CRT's offer better contrast ratio's than anything
else.

If you combine the limitations of DVD MPEG compression on murky scenes
with an LCD screen you have the worst possible viewing scenario.

Basically you would get better picture quality from a VHS VCR playing in
to a cheapo CRT telly with that type of material.

Isn't the B.S. technology that folks spend their hard earned wages on a
disgrace/joke/good business depending on your viewpoint

I'm not a technophobe, just know what is not really progress when I see it
!.
--
Marcus
I like people, they are bio-degradable !.


Have you noticed how most reviews always compare plasma's against
plsma's,crt's against CRT's etc. It's as if they believe that chosing Plasma
is a "lifestyle choice", and having decided to buy plasma you don't want to
know about the pro's and con's compared to the good old CRT.



Arthur January 2nd 05 09:09 PM

On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 14:46:29 +0000 (UTC), Mike
wrote:

I finally took the plunge and bought a LCD tv a few days ago, it was an
AKAI 27" at a reduced sale price.


You have bought a cheap item. You have what you paid for.

Arthur

ivan January 2nd 05 09:48 PM


"John Russell" wrote in message
...

"Marcus" wrote in message
...


Yes, basically LCD sucks as do most of the "affordable" Plasma's out
there. Still true that CRT's offer better contrast ratio's than anything
else.

If you combine the limitations of DVD MPEG compression on murky scenes
with an LCD screen you have the worst possible viewing scenario.

Basically you would get better picture quality from a VHS VCR playing in
to a cheapo CRT telly with that type of material.

Isn't the B.S. technology that folks spend their hard earned wages on a
disgrace/joke/good business depending on your viewpoint

I'm not a technophobe, just know what is not really progress when I see

it
!.
--
Marcus
I like people, they are bio-degradable !.


Have you noticed how most reviews always compare plasma's against
plsma's,crt's against CRT's etc. It's as if they believe that chosing

Plasma
is a "lifestyle choice", and having decided to buy plasma you don't want

to
know about the pro's and con's compared to the good old CRT.


It's going to be interesting to see how the new generation of ultra-slim
flat CRT's are going to compete http://tinyurl.com/6zk5x when they
eventually hit the market place.



Simon Heather January 2nd 05 10:20 PM

"ivan" wrote in message
...

It's going to be interesting to see how the new generation of ultra-slim
flat CRT's are going to compete http://tinyurl.com/6zk5x when they
eventually hit the market place.


How is reducing a CRT depth from 50cm to 40cm "ultra-slim" - most 42"
plasmas are around 8 to 9 cm thick.

- Simon.



ivan January 2nd 05 10:54 PM


"Simon Heather" wrote in message
...
"ivan" wrote in message
...

It's going to be interesting to see how the new generation of ultra-slim
flat CRT's are going to compete http://tinyurl.com/6zk5x when they
eventually hit the market place.


How is reducing a CRT depth from 50cm to 40cm "ultra-slim" - most 42"
plasmas are around 8 to 9 cm thick.

Well according to their spiel they claim to have knocked off 100 mm (four
inches) and reduced the weight by 5kg, with a 30% improvement in resolution
and 20% reduction in power, not there yet admittedly, but certainly moving
in the right direction, and if it's eventually possible to get a cabinet
depth down to around 12 inches or even less for a 34" plus a considerable
weight reduction, then the CRT picture quality advantage and costs might
well ensure that the 70 year-old CRT still has some life left in it yet.


- Simon.





mike ring January 2nd 05 11:45 PM

"ivan" wrote in
:
sing
Plasma
is a "lifestyle choice", and having decided to buy plasma you don't
want

to
know about the pro's and con's compared to the good old CRT.


It's going to be interesting to see how the new generation of
ultra-slim flat CRT's are going to compete http://tinyurl.com/6zk5x
when they eventually hit the market place.

5 kg lighter in 50 - not significant.

The main reason I'm looking for a flat screen is the sheer mass of my 32".

As soon as I find a nice one, LCD preferred as I think it's the coming
thing, I'm in there

mike

ivan January 3rd 05 12:04 AM


"mike ring" wrote in message
. 1.4...
"ivan" wrote in
:
sing
Plasma
is a "lifestyle choice", and having decided to buy plasma you don't
want

to
know about the pro's and con's compared to the good old CRT.


It's going to be interesting to see how the new generation of
ultra-slim flat CRT's are going to compete http://tinyurl.com/6zk5x
when they eventually hit the market place.

5 kg lighter in 50 - not significant.

The main reason I'm looking for a flat screen is the sheer mass of my 32".

As soon as I find a nice one, LCD preferred as I think it's the coming
thing, I'm in there


Never mind the quality... feel the width! :)



mike





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