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Britannica December 21st 04 10:07 PM

BBC1 Regions
 
I've always been able to get three BBC1 regional stations. Default
BBC1 was Look North Yorks/Humberside, channel 800 on my list was East
Midlands and 801 was Leeds. There was a hiatus a few days ago when all
I could get was Look East on 810 but after a re-install I managed to
get Yorks Humberside back on channel 1 and East Midlands on 801, but
nothing from the Leeds studio.

This evening, trying again, I switched the box off and on again at the
mains and did another re-install. Got channel 1 Yorks/humberside, 800
East Midlands and on 801...the London area regional news !!! - but on
the info panel it was showing Look North !

Half way through the 6 pm news when they switch to the local studio it
was Harry Gratian large as life but at 6:30 up comes BBC London so
what's going on ?

The house is about 1200ft ASL to the west of Sheffield and on a clear
day I can see West Burton power station from ground level. My aerial
is pointing at Belmont and the box is a Humax Fox. Lately after an
auto install the box claims I'm receiving too many channels and I have
to delete several TV channels before I can save the list of detected
channels [the auto search finds anything from 88 to 96 TV channels and
includes things like WDR Köln, NDR FSHH, MDR Fernsehen etc. but the
listing is different each time]. This trouble started about ten days
ago during that prolonged period of high pressure, but I thought
Freeview was immune from atmospheric inteference ??

Could it be a fault with the STB ? I can't imagine the London BBC
regional news being transmitted from Belmont !

M. J. Powell December 22nd 04 12:28 AM

In message , Britannica
writes
I've always been able to get three BBC1 regional stations. Default
BBC1 was Look North Yorks/Humberside, channel 800 on my list was East
Midlands and 801 was Leeds. There was a hiatus a few days ago when all
I could get was Look East on 810 but after a re-install I managed to
get Yorks Humberside back on channel 1 and East Midlands on 801, but
nothing from the Leeds studio.

This evening, trying again, I switched the box off and on again at the
mains and did another re-install. Got channel 1 Yorks/humberside, 800
East Midlands and on 801...the London area regional news !!! - but on
the info panel it was showing Look North !

Half way through the 6 pm news when they switch to the local studio it
was Harry Gratian large as life but at 6:30 up comes BBC London so
what's going on ?

The house is about 1200ft ASL to the west of Sheffield and on a clear
day I can see West Burton power station from ground level. My aerial
is pointing at Belmont and the box is a Humax Fox. Lately after an
auto install the box claims I'm receiving too many channels and I have
to delete several TV channels before I can save the list of detected
channels [the auto search finds anything from 88 to 96 TV channels and
includes things like WDR Köln, NDR FSHH, MDR Fernsehen etc. but the
listing is different each time]. This trouble started about ten days
ago during that prolonged period of high pressure, but I thought
Freeview was immune from atmospheric inteference ??

Could it be a fault with the STB ? I can't imagine the London BBC
regional news being transmitted from Belmont !


What a lovely place to live.

Mike
--
M.J.Powell

Mark Carver December 22nd 04 09:13 AM

Britannica wrote:
This trouble started about ten days
ago during that prolonged period of high pressure, but I thought
Freeview was immune from atmospheric inteference ??


No it most certainly isn't. 'DTT' signals suffer from the same enhanced
conditions during high pressure conditions that 'analogue' ones do. The
only difference is that interference is not apparent until the wanted
signal is corrupted beyond a threshold, and then you simply lose
reception on an affected mux completely.

Your elevated position just serves to add to the problem. Getting DTT
from Cologne is very impressive, so Crystal Palace is certainly not
unusual. How is reception today ? The pressure has dropped like a stone
here (Hampshire).

Peter F December 22nd 04 03:54 PM

Britannica wrote:

This evening, trying again, I switched the box off and on again at the
mains and did another re-install. Got channel 1 Yorks/humberside, 800
East Midlands and on 801...the London area regional news !!! - but on
the info panel it was showing Look North !

Half way through the 6 pm news when they switch to the local studio it
was Harry Gratian large as life but at 6:30 up comes BBC London so
what's going on ?


Someone or something cocked up!
After the national news, the switch to local didn't happen on Freeview. It
did happen on terrestrial.

I don't know about the other regional opts but Look North Leeds is quite
often slow to switch. This is the first time I've seen it take half a
programme though.





Britannica December 22nd 04 04:25 PM

On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:28:32 +0000, "M. J. Powell"
wrote:

In message , Britannica
writes



The house is about 1200ft ASL to the west of Sheffield and on a clear
day I can see West Burton power station from ground level.


What a lovely place to live.

Mike


Apart from the weather :) - it's a bit like living in the Falklands
when the north-westerlies comes howling down from Kinder Scout, and
they'll likely be bearing snow this weekend !


Britannica December 22nd 04 04:27 PM

On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:13:08 +0000, Mark Carver
wrote:

Britannica wrote:
This trouble started about ten days
ago during that prolonged period of high pressure, but I thought
Freeview was immune from atmospheric inteference ??


No it most certainly isn't. 'DTT' signals suffer from the same enhanced
conditions during high pressure conditions that 'analogue' ones do. The
only difference is that interference is not apparent until the wanted
signal is corrupted beyond a threshold, and then you simply lose
reception on an affected mux completely.

Your elevated position just serves to add to the problem. Getting DTT
from Cologne is very impressive, so Crystal Palace is certainly not
unusual. How is reception today ? The pressure has dropped like a stone
here (Hampshire).


Thanks Mark, - yes reception is back to 'normal' today. I'm still a
little intruiged by the Crystal Palace reception though as the signal
would be arriving at the aerial 'side-on'. I idly wonder what stations
I could get with a rotatable aerial ? - not Emley Moor because there
is higher ground in the way.

Although some German and Dutch stations appear in the listing there
has never been enough signal to get a picture :) and I'm surprised the
STB doesn't have a filter to exclude these low signal channels from
the listing.


Mark Carver December 22nd 04 05:15 PM

Britannica wrote:
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:13:08 +0000, Mark Carver



Your elevated position just serves to add to the problem. Getting DTT
from Cologne is very impressive, so Crystal Palace is certainly not
unusual. How is reception today ? The pressure has dropped like a stone
here (Hampshire).



Thanks Mark, - yes reception is back to 'normal' today. I'm still a
little intruiged by the Crystal Palace reception though as the signal
would be arriving at the aerial 'side-on'. I idly wonder what stations
I could get with a rotatable aerial ? - not Emley Moor because there
is higher ground in the way.


As 'Peter F' posted in elsewhere in this thread it looks as if BBC Leeds
had a problem last night, and didn't opt out on DTT as they should have
at 6:30pm, so BBC London was being transmitted by your local
transmitters. Worth a try to see if you can get CP though ! :-)


Although some German and Dutch stations appear in the listing there
has never been enough signal to get a picture :) and I'm surprised the
STB doesn't have a filter to exclude these low signal channels from
the listing.


Bill December 22nd 04 08:30 PM

Worth a try to see if you can get CP though ! :-)


Unlikely because it's co-channel with Belmont analogue except for muxes C and
D,

Bill









Mark Carver December 22nd 04 08:42 PM

Bill wrote:
Worth a try to see if you can get CP though ! :-)



Unlikely because it's co-channel with Belmont analogue except for muxes C and
D,


and analogue's no good coz it's co-channel with Bilsdale ? not to worry
I can assure you you're missing nothing worth watching on either BBC 1
or ITV-1 London.

M. J. Powell December 22nd 04 09:54 PM

In message , Britannica
writes
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:28:32 +0000, "M. J. Powell"
wrote:

In message , Britannica
writes



The house is about 1200ft ASL to the west of Sheffield and on a clear
day I can see West Burton power station from ground level.


What a lovely place to live.

Mike


Apart from the weather :) - it's a bit like living in the Falklands
when the north-westerlies comes howling down from Kinder Scout, and
they'll likely be bearing snow this weekend !


Good luck! Hope you have a Land Rover.

Mike


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