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I hate adverts November 28th 04 12:23 PM

Not paying for Sky Box Office
 
We are occassional purchasers of a Sky Box office movie and I sometimes will
buy a Premiership Plus match.
My wife asked me a few days ago about paying for these and whether they
added them to the normal direct debit. No, I said, they were billed
separately. Then I realised I hadn't seen anything on our bank statements
and upon checking discovered the last time we had payed for any box office
service was in April LAST YEAR!
Anybody else experienced this and got an explanation? The phone connection
isn't functioning (needs an adsl filter and I can't be bothered to move all
the furniture to get at the socket) but I don't think it has to be anyway.
Suspect they might catch up one day and empty my account!

Chris



Mike GW8IJT November 28th 04 12:35 PM

"I hate adverts" wrote in message
...
We are occassional purchasers of a Sky Box office movie and I

sometimes will
buy a Premiership Plus match.
My wife asked me a few days ago about paying for these and whether

they
added them to the normal direct debit. No, I said, they were billed
separately. Then I realised I hadn't seen anything on our bank

statements
and upon checking discovered the last time we had payed for any box

office
service was in April LAST YEAR!
Anybody else experienced this and got an explanation? The phone

connection
isn't functioning (needs an adsl filter and I can't be bothered to

move all
the furniture to get at the socket) but I don't think it has to be

anyway.
Suspect they might catch up one day and empty my account!

Chris


If the phone connection isn't functioning then the digibox can't tell
$ky that you have watched Box Office movies, however, once your credit
on your $ky card has run out, you won't be able to watch any more Box
Office movies ever again until you get the phone connection fixed.
$ky DO charge for Box Office movies via the direct debit.
Regards Mike.



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I hate adverts November 28th 04 12:55 PM


"Mike GW8IJT" wrote in message
...
"I hate adverts" wrote in message
...
We are occassional purchasers of a Sky Box office movie and I

sometimes will
buy a Premiership Plus match.
My wife asked me a few days ago about paying for these and whether

they
added them to the normal direct debit. No, I said, they were billed
separately. Then I realised I hadn't seen anything on our bank

statements
and upon checking discovered the last time we had payed for any box

office
service was in April LAST YEAR!
Anybody else experienced this and got an explanation? The phone

connection
isn't functioning (needs an adsl filter and I can't be bothered to

move all
the furniture to get at the socket) but I don't think it has to be

anyway.
Suspect they might catch up one day and empty my account!

Chris


If the phone connection isn't functioning then the digibox can't tell
$ky that you have watched Box Office movies, however, once your credit
on your $ky card has run out, you won't be able to watch any more Box
Office movies ever again until you get the phone connection fixed.
$ky DO charge for Box Office movies via the direct debit.
Regards Mike.


Thanks for the response!
What do you mean by Sky card credit?
Am I right in thinking that the usage is stored on the box/card then?

Chris



Steve November 28th 04 01:29 PM


"I hate adverts" wrote in message
...

"Mike GW8IJT" wrote in message
...
"I hate adverts" wrote in message
...
We are occassional purchasers of a Sky Box office movie and I

sometimes will
buy a Premiership Plus match.
My wife asked me a few days ago about paying for these and whether

they
added them to the normal direct debit. No, I said, they were billed
separately. Then I realised I hadn't seen anything on our bank

statements
and upon checking discovered the last time we had payed for any box

office
service was in April LAST YEAR!
Anybody else experienced this and got an explanation? The phone

connection
isn't functioning (needs an adsl filter and I can't be bothered to

move all
the furniture to get at the socket) but I don't think it has to be

anyway.
Suspect they might catch up one day and empty my account!

Chris


If the phone connection isn't functioning then the digibox can't tell
$ky that you have watched Box Office movies, however, once your credit
on your $ky card has run out, you won't be able to watch any more Box
Office movies ever again until you get the phone connection fixed.
$ky DO charge for Box Office movies via the direct debit.
Regards Mike.


Thanks for the response!
What do you mean by Sky card credit?
Am I right in thinking that the usage is stored on the box/card then?

Chris


Correct...

The total cost of all your sky box office charges are held on your card.
There is also a credit limit in the card (an amount you can run up on box
office charges before the card wont let you view any more). Once this
credit limit is reached, your card won't let you book anymore box office
events until the card is allowed to phone home, to tell sky what you owe
them and reset the card. Have you any idea how many events you have watched
and not yet paid for, as I would be interested to know.... just for
interest.... Do you book events every week, month??

Thats how it works, so when you do finally get the box connected to the
working line, its pay up time. Its also worth noting that once your credit
limit is reached, it is widely reported that a constant reminder is
displayed on screen, even on your normal subscription channels, so watching
normal subs channels is no longer possible (this is never been confirmed by
myself, just something I've read online.. If anyone can confirm it would be
interesting to know).

Steve




Tez November 28th 04 01:33 PM


"I hate adverts" wrote in message
...

"Mike GW8IJT" wrote in message
...
"I hate adverts" wrote in message
...
We are occassional purchasers of a Sky Box office movie and I

sometimes will
buy a Premiership Plus match.
My wife asked me a few days ago about paying for these and whether

they
added them to the normal direct debit. No, I said, they were billed
separately. Then I realised I hadn't seen anything on our bank

statements
and upon checking discovered the last time we had payed for any box

office
service was in April LAST YEAR!
Anybody else experienced this and got an explanation? The phone

connection
isn't functioning (needs an adsl filter and I can't be bothered to

move all
the furniture to get at the socket) but I don't think it has to be

anyway.
Suspect they might catch up one day and empty my account!

Chris


If the phone connection isn't functioning then the digibox can't tell
$ky that you have watched Box Office movies, however, once your credit
on your $ky card has run out, you won't be able to watch any more Box
Office movies ever again until you get the phone connection fixed.
$ky DO charge for Box Office movies via the direct debit.
Regards Mike.


Thanks for the response!
What do you mean by Sky card credit?
Am I right in thinking that the usage is stored on the box/card then?

Chris


A bit of advice. Don't plug it in



Dave Fawthrop November 28th 04 02:05 PM

On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 12:33:55 -0000, "Tez" wrote:

|
| "I hate adverts" wrote in message
| ...

|
| If the phone connection isn't functioning then the digibox can't tell
| $ky that you have watched Box Office movies, however, once your credit
| on your $ky card has run out, you won't be able to watch any more Box
| Office movies ever again until you get the phone connection fixed.
| $ky DO charge for Box Office movies via the direct debit.
| Regards Mike.
|
| Thanks for the response!
| What do you mean by Sky card credit?
| Am I right in thinking that the usage is stored on the box/card then?
|
| Chris
|
|
| A bit of advice. Don't plug it in

Dear $ky
I have had an unfortunate accident with my $ky card.
The dog chewed it / it got burnt / ??? / ??? /
Could I have a replacement please.
|
Now how does one ensure that the chip is trashed.


--
Dave F

I hate adverts November 28th 04 02:06 PM

Correct...

The total cost of all your sky box office charges are held on your card.
There is also a credit limit in the card (an amount you can run up on box
office charges before the card wont let you view any more). Once this
credit limit is reached, your card won't let you book anymore box office
events until the card is allowed to phone home, to tell sky what you owe
them and reset the card. Have you any idea how many events you have
watched and not yet paid for, as I would be interested to know.... just
for interest.... Do you book events every week, month??

Thats how it works, so when you do finally get the box connected to the
working line, its pay up time. Its also worth noting that once your
credit limit is reached, it is widely reported that a constant reminder is
displayed on screen, even on your normal subscription channels, so
watching normal subs channels is no longer possible (this is never been
confirmed by myself, just something I've read online.. If anyone can
confirm it would be interesting to know).

Steve

Thanks for that! Actually I have no idea how many events we have watched. I
suppose a wild guess would reckon about 20 films and perhaps 3-5 football
matches. The crucial question now is how much credit is available on a card;
you would have thought it wasn't in Sky's interest to make it too high but
my bill has to be over £50. I think I may reconnect after Christmas!

Chris



I hate adverts November 28th 04 02:07 PM


A bit of advice. Don't plug it in

Great!
Then what do I do when I'm told there is no more credit/space on the card?!

Chris



I hate adverts November 28th 04 02:39 PM


"Dave Fawthrop" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 12:33:55 -0000, "Tez" wrote:

|
| "I hate adverts" wrote in message
| ...

|
| If the phone connection isn't functioning then the digibox can't tell
| $ky that you have watched Box Office movies, however, once your
credit
| on your $ky card has run out, you won't be able to watch any more Box
| Office movies ever again until you get the phone connection fixed.
| $ky DO charge for Box Office movies via the direct debit.
| Regards Mike.
|
| Thanks for the response!
| What do you mean by Sky card credit?
| Am I right in thinking that the usage is stored on the box/card then?
|
| Chris
|
|
| A bit of advice. Don't plug it in

Dear $ky
I have had an unfortunate accident with my $ky card.
The dog chewed it / it got burnt / ??? / ??? /
Could I have a replacement please.
|
Now how does one ensure that the chip is trashed.


--
Dave F


You'll never get to heaven!
Incidentally, why do people spell Sky $ky?

Chris



I hate adverts November 28th 04 02:45 PM


"Mike Henry" wrote in message
...
In , "I hate adverts"
wrote:

A bit of advice. Don't plug it in

Great!
Then what do I do when I'm told there is no more credit/space on the
card?!


Simple. Don't support the PPV market. It's a rip-off anyway - the same
films are on the normal film channels a few months later, or available
cheaper for DVD rental with far superior picture and sound quality.

--
Kill all Sky's red dots on TiVo! http://www.ljay.org.uk/tivoweb/


Well I can't argue with that, which is why it doesn't get used that much.
However, like a lot of things, when you would really like to use the service
it would be nice if it was available!

Chris



I hate adverts November 28th 04 02:47 PM

Is there a quick and easy way to test the phone connection from the box?

Chris



Max Demian November 28th 04 02:56 PM

"I hate adverts" wrote in message
...
"Dave Fawthrop" wrote in message
...


Dear $ky
I have had an unfortunate accident with my $ky card.
The dog chewed it / it got burnt / ??? / ??? /
Could I have a replacement please.
|
Now how does one ensure that the chip is trashed.


You'll never get to heaven!
Incidentally, why do people spell Sky $ky?


The same reason people spell Microsoft M$.

--
Max Demian



I hate adverts November 28th 04 03:02 PM

"Max Demian" wrote in message
...
"I hate adverts" wrote in message
...
"Dave Fawthrop" wrote in message
...


Dear $ky
I have had an unfortunate accident with my $ky card.
The dog chewed it / it got burnt / ??? / ??? /
Could I have a replacement please.
|
Now how does one ensure that the chip is trashed.


You'll never get to heaven!
Incidentally, why do people spell Sky $ky?


The same reason people spell Microsoft M$.

--
Max Demian

Doh! :)



Dave Fawthrop November 28th 04 03:09 PM

On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 13:39:40 -0000, "I hate adverts"
wrote:



| Incidentally, why do people spell Sky $ky?

Because £ky would not have the same punch.

--
Dave F

Mike GW8IJT November 28th 04 03:40 PM

"I hate adverts" wrote in message
...

"Dave Fawthrop" wrote in message
...

You'll never get to heaven!
Incidentally, why do people spell Sky $ky?

Chris


Because of all the money they grab off people & £ky doesn't look right
(in fact if you've got a US setup it will look like #ky) :-o)
Regards Mike.



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^^artnada^^ November 28th 04 03:45 PM

I hate adverts wrote:
|| Is there a quick and easy way to test the phone connection from the box?
||
|| Chris

Services, 4, 7



Mike GW8IJT November 28th 04 03:46 PM

"Mike Henry" wrote in message
...
In , "I hate adverts"
wrote:

A bit of advice. Don't plug it in

Great!
Then what do I do when I'm told there is no more credit/space on the

card?!

Simple. Don't support the PPV market. It's a rip-off anyway - the same
films are on the normal film channels a few months later, or available
cheaper for DVD rental with far superior picture and sound quality.

--
Kill all Sky's red dots on TiVo! http://www.ljay.org.uk/tivoweb/


I think that $ky Box Office is £3.50 while my local DVD rental is £2.75,
as for picture quality and sound quality, there's no difference on my
setup (28" widescreen TV).
Of course with $ky Box Office you don't have to go out to get & take the
DVD back, so that's an advantage of $ky.
Regards Mike.



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I hate adverts November 28th 04 03:59 PM

"^^artnada^^" wrote in message
. uk...
I hate adverts wrote:
|| Is there a quick and easy way to test the phone connection from the
box?
||
|| Chris

Services, 4, 7


Yes, thanks, I've just found that and it tells me my telephone is connected!
Which it is but due to a lack of adsl filter it ain't useable!
I tried an interactive service and of course it can't dial out.

Chris



I hate adverts November 28th 04 04:26 PM

Well a lady in India (I'm guessing!) has told me my card credit limit is £55
so either I haven't used is as much as I thought or she is wrong! We'll
see...
Thanks for all the input everyone.

Chris



AD C November 28th 04 04:53 PM

Mike GW8IJT wrote:


I think that $ky Box Office is £3.50 while my local DVD rental is £2.75,


So it is cheaper then.


as for picture quality and sound quality, there's no difference on my
setup (28" widescreen TV).


Of cause there is, DVD is far better quality than any digital transmission.


Of course with $ky Box Office you don't have to go out to get & take the
DVD back, so that's an advantage of $ky.



That is the only advantage.
The big problem with Sky box office and any P.P.V is that if you are
halfway watching it and you got to go out or the phone rings, then you
miss the rest and lose money, at least with a DVD you can watch it when
you come back home or get off the phone.
I expect you will say about Sky +, but that adds another £10 a month on
top of your subscription if you do not have any premium channels, and
after you paid the £200 for the box it gets a bit expensive.

AD C November 28th 04 04:54 PM

I hate adverts wrote:


Yes, thanks, I've just found that and it tells me my telephone is connected!
Which it is but due to a lack of adsl filter it ain't useable!
I tried an interactive service and of course it can't dial out.


Mine do not work even with a filter.

k November 29th 04 04:54 PM

On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 16:37:50 +0000, Mike Henry
wrote:


Indeed, that is true. Pay-Per-View is aimed at couch potatoes who are so
lazy that they would prefer to pay extra for an inferior and overpriced
product,


or those without a DVD player. or who don't live near a DVD rental
shop. or are disabled and it would be difficult for them to get out to
the shop. or....

knowing it is inferior and overpriced,


They may *not* know that though.

The fact that PPV is
still with us at all is a very sad reflection on the UK consumer.


and consumers in the USA, and Germany, and France and....

:-)

Just coz you (and I) don't use it doesn't mean it shouldn't be there
for those that want it. Its not compulsory.


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