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fred October 28th 04 07:29 PM

TUTV - an ulterior motive ???
 
Just thinking aloud here.

Nobody questions the success of the Freeview offering.
TUTV seems highly unpopular. I don't know anybody who has it or is
even considering getting it.

Could TUTV be merely hogging the increasingly precious bandwidth in
the hope of being bought out, knowing full well TUTV as it stands is a
no-hoper ?
Could that have been TUTV's plan from the start ?

$ky clearly hates the success of Freeview - even though they are a
partner as it is definately holding back new $ky satellite
subscriptions.
Don't you think $ky would love to take over TUTV and offer nothing but
$ky Sports 1,2,3 + $ky 1 or $ky Movies 1 ? That would leave the
existing channels as a sort of Free Family Pack.

Would that ever be allowed ?

I believe TUTV's bandwidth provider is SDN.
What the heck has S4C ever done to deserve this bandwidth ?
Who is the "D" part in SDN ?

Does anyone know for how long TUTV have contracted with SDN to rent
the bandwidth ?
I wonder if they are good payers and how deep their backers' pockets
are.

Your thoughts.

Brian McIlwrath October 28th 04 08:15 PM

fred wrote:

: Could TUTV be merely hogging the increasingly precious bandwidth in
: the hope of being bought out, knowing full well TUTV as it stands is a
: no-hoper ?
: Could that have been TUTV's plan from the start ?

As you are discussung ulterior motives you have to factor in that the BBC
helped start Freeview largely so that there would be no danger of ALL viewers
having a STB with decryption ability - as was the case with Sky and ITV/ON
Digital - leading to calls for a "subscription BBC and no TV licence". This has
been freely admitted by Greg Dyke!

Also consider that, before TUTV, channels were just *NOT* being taken up on
Freeview (leading to the relatively large number of shopping ones). The
very high transmission costs (relative to satellite) were putting most
broadcasters off!


fred October 28th 04 10:41 PM


S4C = Sianel Pedwar Cymru - 'Channel Four Wales'
SDN = S4C Digital Networks.


Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought SDN stood for:
S = S4C
D = something else - hence my question
N = NTL

If you are correct, why on earth would S4C be given an entire 8MHz RF
channel ? What is their contribution ?

fred


Paul Evans October 29th 04 12:47 AM

fred wrote:
S4C = Sianel Pedwar Cymru - 'Channel Four Wales'
SDN = S4C Digital Networks.


Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought SDN stood for:
S = S4C
D = something else - hence my question
N = NTL

If you are correct, why on earth would S4C be given an entire 8MHz RF
channel ? What is their contribution ?

fred


All the national broadcasters were guaranteed bandwidth on DTT. S4C (SDN)
weren't given an entire channel - they co-share it with Five, but Five has opted
to lease its' spare bandwidth to SDN rather than launch any new channels of
their own. It might seem like a cop-out on behalf of Five, but when you look at
how ITV has wasted their allocation (ITV2 and the upcoming ITV3 - repeats,
repeats and 'extra' shows), perhaps Five had more sense than to launch a
collection of crap channels just to fill its portfolio.

Paul.





John Porcella October 30th 04 05:14 PM


"fred" wrote in message
...
Just thinking aloud here.

Nobody questions the success of the Freeview offering.
TUTV seems highly unpopular. I don't know anybody who has it or is
even considering getting it.


I have it!


Could TUTV be merely hogging the increasingly precious bandwidth in
the hope of being bought out, knowing full well TUTV as it stands is a
no-hoper ?


Maybe!

Could that have been TUTV's plan from the start ?

$ky clearly hates the success of Freeview - even though they are a
partner as it is definately holding back new $ky satellite
subscriptions.
Don't you think $ky would love to take over TUTV and offer nothing but
$ky Sports 1,2,3 + $ky 1 or $ky Movies 1 ? That would leave the
existing channels as a sort of Free Family Pack.

Would that ever be allowed ?


Whilst desirable for me, there would be competition issues to overcome.


I believe TUTV's bandwidth provider is SDN.
What the heck has S4C ever done to deserve this bandwidth ?


The Welsh language?


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MESSAGE ENDS.
John Porcella




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