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In article , Ricky
wrote: Back in the good old days of BBC Choice, kids TV (cbeebies) was on Choice during the day and it switched to "adult" programming at 7pm. But no changing of channels was necessary. Back in the 1950s we had "Children's Hour" and the rest of the evening's programmes all on the same channel at different times, and our TV set didn't even have a tuning control. We switched it on, and we switched it off, and that arrangement worked perfectly well. Rod. |
"Ricky" wrote in message
... There is no time of the day when the BBC is broadcasting 8 distinct TV channels in the UK. CBBC and BBC 3 never co-exist. Similarly with CBeebies and BBC 4. Hmmm, BBC1 BBC2 BBC3/CBBC BBC4/CBeebies News24 Parliament/Community and then the 2 'interactive' channels 701 702 I make that 8 distinct channels - OK, they are not full time, but they will all be in use come Wimbledon. |
"Ray Pearce" wrote in message
Hmmm, BBC1 BBC2 BBC3/CBBC BBC4/CBeebies News24 Parliament/Community and then the 2 'interactive' channels 701 702 I make that 8 distinct channels - OK, they are not full time, but they will all be in use come Wimbledon. Actually Community (and presumably parliament) share the same PIDs as 702. So only 7. Some areas seem to have 703 as well. I've no idea how it fits into the scheme. -- Brian Gregory (In the UK). To email me remove the letter vee. |
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BBC2 BBC3/CBBC BBC4/CBeebies News24 Parliament/Community and then the 2 'interactive' channels 701 702 I make that 8 distinct channels - OK, they are not full time, but they will all be in use come Wimbledon. Actually Community (and presumably parliament) share the same PIDs as 702. So only 7. BBC Parliament is a channel in its own right. It has no connection with The Community Channel (which in itself uses the capacity of 702 during the night). Strictly (politically) speaking, 701 and 702 aren't channels in the sense that the others are. Some areas seem to have 703 as well. I've no idea how it fits into the scheme. 703 is a data channel. |
Moldy k wrote in message . ..
On 18 May 2004 14:14:39 -0700, (Sean O'Leathlobhair) wrote: Moldy k wrote in message . .. On 18 May 2004 07:55:35 -0700, (Sean O'Leathlobhair) wrote: (Ricky) wrote in message om... "uselesses" wrote in message ... I`m sure there`s been times when I`ve turned on the TV and theres been childrens programmes on all 4 BBC channels! All 4? The BBC keep on telling us they have 8 channels... I am constantly frustrated by all the kids TV programming on BBC News 24 and BBC Parliament. ;o) Ric. I forgot to comment on the "8 channels". This is where the thread started. It seems to me that BBC3 and CBBC are really one channel masquerading as two and BBC4 and CBeebies are another such pair. So it may be more accurate to s ay 6 channels since that is the maximum choice you ever have. Rubbish. They are separate, distinct channels which cater to a different demographic. As soon as you take your head out of your backside and realise that Freeview is not your personal programming selection, its a national service which caters for a multitude of demographics and tastes the better. Stop complaining. Be thankful you don't have just 1 channel full of state authorised propaganda. Numpty Good grief, what did I do to deserve that? Erm not much really. I was not even complaining, if you had read further down, you would have seen me say that I was happy with the BBC3 / CBBC distinction. Yes, I should have read on - my rant was more aimed at those in this thread who are saying there should be no CBBC/CBEEBIES at all. All I was doing was observing some odd behaviour of my STB and counting channels. The STB sometimes confuses BBC3 and CBBC. There are never more than 6 BBC channels active at one time. Do these observations deserve your attack? Not at all Unless it is an apology, you are not welcome to reply to this, or any other post of mine. I hereby apologise Sean. S Thanks. Explosions in the news groups seem common but apologies are rare so I appreciate that. I am actually a strong defender of the BBC. I have no objection to the children's channels. My son likes CBBC very much and if I get home from work in time, I sometimes watch it with him. Nobody in the house watches CBeebies but I do not object to its existence. I don't like sport but I don't complain about the Sky Sports News channel (well I did in another post in this thread but I hope that it was obviously a joke). This thread was just meant to be a technical query prompted by the odd behaviour of one of my STBs which sometimes confuses BBC3 and CBBC. It was not meant to be an attack on the BBC. Seán O'Leathlóbhair |
"Ray Pearce" wrote in message ...
"Ricky" wrote in message ... There is no time of the day when the BBC is broadcasting 8 distinct TV channels in the UK. CBBC and BBC 3 never co-exist. Similarly with CBeebies and BBC 4. Hmmm, BBC1 BBC2 BBC3/CBBC BBC4/CBeebies News24 Parliament/Community and then the 2 'interactive' channels 701 702 I make that 8 distinct channels - OK, they are not full time, but they will all be in use come Wimbledon. I was ignoring the 70x channels since they do not seem to be publicised as channels rather than support for the interactive services of other channels. I do not have them set as favourites and do not access them directly. But I accept that if you are counting data streams, which I was attempting to do, then they should be counted. So there are 8 channel names (counting BBC3 and CBBC separately) and 8 streams (counting the 70x channels), it is just that the relationship between them is not as simple as those numbers would suggest. Seán O'Leathlóbhair |
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On 18/5/04 11:30 pm, in article , "Ricky" wrote: I am in agreement with Sean's post - what is the point of having different channel numbers for channels that are broadcast on the same Muxes and will never co-exist? And please don't witter on about demographics; BBC 2 caters for different sub-sets of society at different times of the day/week but doesn't feel the need to call itself different names depending on who is watching at any given time. Err - you are ignoring the importance of the EPG in viewing via digital platforms - especially on Sky Digital and Digital Cable. The BBC discovered that CBBC on Choice wasn't getting surfed by younger viewers (i.e. Kids - the target audience) much as they were all surfing around the Kids channels on Sky, and not finding BBC Choice (which was in the general bit of the EPG) [snip] It isn't the channel number that is important these days - it is the position of the channel within the EPG (and also which channels it is close to) OK. Fair point. I'm not much of a "channel surfer" so the position of channels on the EPG is totally irrelevant to me, but obviously the younger generation (boy, do I sound old, I'm only 33) do things differently. I tend to only watch the telly when there's something on that I want to watch (i.e. not very often these days) - and I find out what's on by perusing a TV mag when it comes out and highlighting those programmes I want to watch. If there's nowt of interest on telly I watch nowt! (and generally listen to the radio or a CD instead) I can't get into the mindset of those who switch on the telly and surf about until they find "the best thing that's on at the moment" and watch that - even if its total crap. Of course, you occasionally find a gem that way, but not very often. Thus the order on the EPG is irrelevant to me. Indeed, I have one of the old OnDodgy boxes that you can rearrange the channel numbers on so all the channels I watch with any regularity are in the single-digits part of the epg, and that includes News 24 (8 on my box) and Cbeebies for my toddler (9 on the box)... Ric. |
"Stephen Neal" wrote in message ... .... Loads snipped ... I think 703 may be a holding channel for the News Interactive feed ? I beleive 703 is a gateway for applications that are jumping in from the other BBC Mux. I think there were worries that when an application forced a mux change that the first thing the STBs did after tuning to the new mux was to start-up the video decoder. Only once the video and audio decoders were running did STBs then start up the text application. Before deciding to hide the Parliament & multiscreen video there were concerns that the viewer selecting Parliament or a multiscreen from a service on Mux1 would see a few seconds worth of the Parliament/multiscreen matrixed video. I think 703 was created as service with no video component to be used as a jumping-in point to get around this problem. Something clever happens as you have to arrive at 703 from another text application for the gateway to work so I guess some sort of attribute is passed or retained across the mux-tune. Glyn --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.688 / Virus Database: 449 - Release Date: 18/05/2004 |
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