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Ian Clowes February 12th 04 01:07 AM



Ritchie Logan wrote:

I'd prefer a DTT with HDD and ethernet port to allow me to rip the file
over to a PC for editing and mastering onto DVD.


Me too...

IanC



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Mike February 12th 04 10:38 AM

On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 00:07:17 +0000, Ian Clowes
wrote:

Ricky wrote:
Hi there,

Does anybody know if you can remove the hard disc on the Pace Twin and
install it into a PC and transfer recorded programmes onto the PC hard
disc (and from there to DVD-R or VCD) in a watchable and editable
format?



Hi

I can just about do this under Linux now, and nearly do it under
Windows. Search Google for more info. I'm not aware of anyone else
working on the same problem at present.

Cheers
IanC



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Hi Ian,

I recently found your threads on this and the dvb newsgroup and read
them with great interest.

My immediate thoughts were firstly, can you do the whole process under
a Win32 OS and secondly, are you planning to integrate the process
into a single app and release it at some stage. I for one would be
happy to pay for such an app. I often archive stuff of my twin to DVD
using my PC but it takes a long time to capture via tv card and encode
to MPEG2 and the quality suffers.

Cheers

Mike

Mike February 12th 04 10:38 AM

On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 00:07:17 +0000, Ian Clowes
wrote:

Ricky wrote:
Hi there,

Does anybody know if you can remove the hard disc on the Pace Twin and
install it into a PC and transfer recorded programmes onto the PC hard
disc (and from there to DVD-R or VCD) in a watchable and editable
format?



Hi

I can just about do this under Linux now, and nearly do it under
Windows. Search Google for more info. I'm not aware of anyone else
working on the same problem at present.

Cheers
IanC



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Hi Ian,

I recently found your threads on this and the dvb newsgroup and read
them with great interest.

My immediate thoughts were firstly, can you do the whole process under
a Win32 OS and secondly, are you planning to integrate the process
into a single app and release it at some stage. I for one would be
happy to pay for such an app. I often archive stuff of my twin to DVD
using my PC but it takes a long time to capture via tv card and encode
to MPEG2 and the quality suffers.

Cheers

Mike

Ian Clowes February 12th 04 08:24 PM

Mike wrote:

Hi Ian,

My immediate thoughts were firstly, can you do the whole process under
a Win32 OS


Hi

Broadly, yes. I'm actually now writing the code on Windows and Linux at
the same time now, although this is working with a disk image captured
unde Linux rather than the mounted disk.

The main hurdle I have to cross is adding some per OS code to access the
HDD at a low enough level. This is trivial in Linux, and shouldn't be a
major problem once I come to do it on Windows, although the two Windows
flavours (Win 9X and NT) do differ in how they do this. Once I have the
processing of the data working under both I'll add this final Windows
disk access part.


and secondly, are you planning to integrate the process
into a single app and release it at some stage.


Initially it'll probably be a command line app, although I'd expect to
do a VB app or something that could call out to this and hence provide a
GUI interface of sorts. I might factor the code into DLLs so I can make
it a little more integrated.


I for one would be
happy to pay for such an app. I often archive stuff of my twin to DVD
using my PC but it takes a long time to capture via tv card and encode
to MPEG2 and the quality suffers.


I'm doing it more for fun. I hadn't really thought about distributuon.
You can probably expect early releases at least to be free. Feel free
to buy me a pint when I'm passing though...

Cheers
IanC



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Ian Clowes February 12th 04 08:24 PM

Mike wrote:

Hi Ian,

My immediate thoughts were firstly, can you do the whole process under
a Win32 OS


Hi

Broadly, yes. I'm actually now writing the code on Windows and Linux at
the same time now, although this is working with a disk image captured
unde Linux rather than the mounted disk.

The main hurdle I have to cross is adding some per OS code to access the
HDD at a low enough level. This is trivial in Linux, and shouldn't be a
major problem once I come to do it on Windows, although the two Windows
flavours (Win 9X and NT) do differ in how they do this. Once I have the
processing of the data working under both I'll add this final Windows
disk access part.


and secondly, are you planning to integrate the process
into a single app and release it at some stage.


Initially it'll probably be a command line app, although I'd expect to
do a VB app or something that could call out to this and hence provide a
GUI interface of sorts. I might factor the code into DLLs so I can make
it a little more integrated.


I for one would be
happy to pay for such an app. I often archive stuff of my twin to DVD
using my PC but it takes a long time to capture via tv card and encode
to MPEG2 and the quality suffers.


I'm doing it more for fun. I hadn't really thought about distributuon.
You can probably expect early releases at least to be free. Feel free
to buy me a pint when I'm passing though...

Cheers
IanC



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Mike February 12th 04 09:24 PM

On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 19:24:02 +0000, Ian Clowes
wrote:

Mike wrote:

Hi Ian,

My immediate thoughts were firstly, can you do the whole process under
a Win32 OS


Hi

Broadly, yes. I'm actually now writing the code on Windows and Linux at
the same time now, although this is working with a disk image captured
unde Linux rather than the mounted disk.


That's excellent news. I'm sure such a tool would be enthusiastically
recieved by tech savvy twin owners.


The main hurdle I have to cross is adding some per OS code to access the
HDD at a low enough level. This is trivial in Linux, and shouldn't be a
major problem once I come to do it on Windows, although the two Windows
flavours (Win 9X and NT) do differ in how they do this. Once I have the
processing of the data working under both I'll add this final Windows
disk access part.


and secondly, are you planning to integrate the process
into a single app and release it at some stage.


Initially it'll probably be a command line app, although I'd expect to
do a VB app or something that could call out to this and hence provide a
GUI interface of sorts. I might factor the code into DLLs so I can make
it a little more integrated.


DLL's sound good. I'm a programmer and to be able to build my own
front end would be useful.



I for one would be
happy to pay for such an app. I often archive stuff of my twin to DVD
using my PC but it takes a long time to capture via tv card and encode
to MPEG2 and the quality suffers.


I'm doing it more for fun. I hadn't really thought about distributuon.
You can probably expect early releases at least to be free. Feel free
to buy me a pint when I'm passing though...


Not 'alf mate!

If you want someone to do a bit of beta testing then I'd be happy to
help ;-)

Keep us posted!


Cheers

Mike


Cheers
IanC



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Mike February 12th 04 09:24 PM

On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 19:24:02 +0000, Ian Clowes
wrote:

Mike wrote:

Hi Ian,

My immediate thoughts were firstly, can you do the whole process under
a Win32 OS


Hi

Broadly, yes. I'm actually now writing the code on Windows and Linux at
the same time now, although this is working with a disk image captured
unde Linux rather than the mounted disk.


That's excellent news. I'm sure such a tool would be enthusiastically
recieved by tech savvy twin owners.


The main hurdle I have to cross is adding some per OS code to access the
HDD at a low enough level. This is trivial in Linux, and shouldn't be a
major problem once I come to do it on Windows, although the two Windows
flavours (Win 9X and NT) do differ in how they do this. Once I have the
processing of the data working under both I'll add this final Windows
disk access part.


and secondly, are you planning to integrate the process
into a single app and release it at some stage.


Initially it'll probably be a command line app, although I'd expect to
do a VB app or something that could call out to this and hence provide a
GUI interface of sorts. I might factor the code into DLLs so I can make
it a little more integrated.


DLL's sound good. I'm a programmer and to be able to build my own
front end would be useful.



I for one would be
happy to pay for such an app. I often archive stuff of my twin to DVD
using my PC but it takes a long time to capture via tv card and encode
to MPEG2 and the quality suffers.


I'm doing it more for fun. I hadn't really thought about distributuon.
You can probably expect early releases at least to be free. Feel free
to buy me a pint when I'm passing though...


Not 'alf mate!

If you want someone to do a bit of beta testing then I'd be happy to
help ;-)

Keep us posted!


Cheers

Mike


Cheers
IanC



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Java Jive February 12th 04 09:40 PM

Ahh! The memories! How this takes me back ...

Years ago, when every blasted micro used different disk formats (if they
used disks at all), I wrote a program in C++ to convert between some of
them. The modular design allowed new formats to be added simply by writing
a new module. I ended up being able to copy files between any two of DOS,
CPC6128 (which had a 5.25" second drive), Commodore PET 9600 (using a Maplin
interface to control its drive), and a virtual disk format for a PC-based
CPC emulator, and was thus finally able to retrieve all my data from all my
old micros before ridding myself of their turbulent nature.

I'd offer the code, but as it was DOS and floppy based and the PC module was
command-line, it's only likely to be remotely helpful for W9x ...

Thanks for the memory though :-)

"Ian Clowes" wrote in message
...
Mike wrote:

Hi Ian,

My immediate thoughts were firstly, can you do the whole process under
a Win32 OS


Hi

Broadly, yes. I'm actually now writing the code on Windows and Linux at
the same time now, although this is working with a disk image captured
unde Linux rather than the mounted disk.

The main hurdle I have to cross is adding some per OS code to access the
HDD at a low enough level. This is trivial in Linux, and shouldn't be a
major problem once I come to do it on Windows, although the two Windows
flavours (Win 9X and NT) do differ in how they do this. Once I have the
processing of the data working under both I'll add this final Windows
disk access part.


and secondly, are you planning to integrate the process
into a single app and release it at some stage.


Initially it'll probably be a command line app, although I'd expect to
do a VB app or something that could call out to this and hence provide a
GUI interface of sorts. I might factor the code into DLLs so I can make
it a little more integrated.


I for one would be
happy to pay for such an app. I often archive stuff of my twin to DVD
using my PC but it takes a long time to capture via tv card and encode
to MPEG2 and the quality suffers.


I'm doing it more for fun. I hadn't really thought about distributuon.
You can probably expect early releases at least to be free. Feel free
to buy me a pint when I'm passing though...

Cheers
IanC



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Java Jive February 12th 04 09:40 PM

Ahh! The memories! How this takes me back ...

Years ago, when every blasted micro used different disk formats (if they
used disks at all), I wrote a program in C++ to convert between some of
them. The modular design allowed new formats to be added simply by writing
a new module. I ended up being able to copy files between any two of DOS,
CPC6128 (which had a 5.25" second drive), Commodore PET 9600 (using a Maplin
interface to control its drive), and a virtual disk format for a PC-based
CPC emulator, and was thus finally able to retrieve all my data from all my
old micros before ridding myself of their turbulent nature.

I'd offer the code, but as it was DOS and floppy based and the PC module was
command-line, it's only likely to be remotely helpful for W9x ...

Thanks for the memory though :-)

"Ian Clowes" wrote in message
...
Mike wrote:

Hi Ian,

My immediate thoughts were firstly, can you do the whole process under
a Win32 OS


Hi

Broadly, yes. I'm actually now writing the code on Windows and Linux at
the same time now, although this is working with a disk image captured
unde Linux rather than the mounted disk.

The main hurdle I have to cross is adding some per OS code to access the
HDD at a low enough level. This is trivial in Linux, and shouldn't be a
major problem once I come to do it on Windows, although the two Windows
flavours (Win 9X and NT) do differ in how they do this. Once I have the
processing of the data working under both I'll add this final Windows
disk access part.


and secondly, are you planning to integrate the process
into a single app and release it at some stage.


Initially it'll probably be a command line app, although I'd expect to
do a VB app or something that could call out to this and hence provide a
GUI interface of sorts. I might factor the code into DLLs so I can make
it a little more integrated.


I for one would be
happy to pay for such an app. I often archive stuff of my twin to DVD
using my PC but it takes a long time to capture via tv card and encode
to MPEG2 and the quality suffers.


I'm doing it more for fun. I hadn't really thought about distributuon.
You can probably expect early releases at least to be free. Feel free
to buy me a pint when I'm passing though...

Cheers
IanC



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nick February 14th 04 01:55 AM

Godspeed Ian ;)


"Ian Clowes" wrote in message ...
Mike wrote:

Hi Ian,

My immediate thoughts were firstly, can you do the whole process under
a Win32 OS


Hi

Broadly, yes. I'm actually now writing the code on Windows and Linux at
the same time now, although this is working with a disk image captured
unde Linux rather than the mounted disk.

The main hurdle I have to cross is adding some per OS code to access the
HDD at a low enough level. This is trivial in Linux, and shouldn't be a
major problem once I come to do it on Windows, although the two Windows
flavours (Win 9X and NT) do differ in how they do this. Once I have the
processing of the data working under both I'll add this final Windows
disk access part.


and secondly, are you planning to integrate the process
into a single app and release it at some stage.


Initially it'll probably be a command line app, although I'd expect to
do a VB app or something that could call out to this and hence provide a
GUI interface of sorts. I might factor the code into DLLs so I can make
it a little more integrated.


I for one would be
happy to pay for such an app. I often archive stuff of my twin to DVD
using my PC but it takes a long time to capture via tv card and encode
to MPEG2 and the quality suffers.


I'm doing it more for fun. I hadn't really thought about distributuon.
You can probably expect early releases at least to be free. Feel free
to buy me a pint when I'm passing though...

Cheers
IanC



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