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Paul Webster January 4th 04 04:51 PM

Done some digging around.
When I submit jobs to the Windows Scheduler I use Microsoft's WMI
implementation.
Unfortunately this does not give access to the "Wake the computer to
run this task" flag.

So - I'll do some digging around to see what I can find to help.
--
Rgds
Paul Webster

Bluesky January 5th 04 07:34 PM

Hi Edward. You can actually wake up from the Hibernate state. I don't
honestly know how it works (but am interested if anyone knows!). I have run
several tests on this and use XP Scheduler to re-start it from Hibernate (or
Standby). If I just set Scheduler to load any program, and tick the box
'wake computer' (or whatever it says), it will wake it in any mode apart
from totally shut down.


Agreed Geoff, the XP scheduler can wake from a Hibernate (S4) - I do
this nearly every day.

The problem with S3 and S4 sleeping is that some motherboards don't
implement well or properly or at all. Also how the BIOS was set when
XP was installed causes major problems.

Christopher Anderson January 22nd 04 06:10 PM

Paul Webster wrote:
Done some digging around.
When I submit jobs to the Windows Scheduler I use Microsoft's WMI
implementation.
Unfortunately this does not give access to the "Wake the computer to
run this task" flag.

So - I'll do some digging around to see what I can find to help.


Hi there,

I have written a small program that reads all the entries in registry
relating to DigiTV scheduled recordings and creates scheduled tasks with
the "Wake the computer" flag set. In the end had to use the C++ code
examples in MSDN to work out how to do it.

It's a bit of a back but works. Let me know if your interested. I can send.

Chris

Christopher Anderson January 22nd 04 06:10 PM

Paul Webster wrote:
Done some digging around.
When I submit jobs to the Windows Scheduler I use Microsoft's WMI
implementation.
Unfortunately this does not give access to the "Wake the computer to
run this task" flag.

So - I'll do some digging around to see what I can find to help.


Hi there,

I have written a small program that reads all the entries in registry
relating to DigiTV scheduled recordings and creates scheduled tasks with
the "Wake the computer" flag set. In the end had to use the C++ code
examples in MSDN to work out how to do it.

It's a bit of a back but works. Let me know if your interested. I can send.

Chris

Geoff January 23rd 04 01:51 PM

"Christopher Anderson" wrote in
message ...
I have written a small program that reads all the entries in registry
relating to DigiTV scheduled recordings and creates scheduled tasks with
the "Wake the computer" flag set. In the end had to use the C++ code
examples in MSDN to work out how to do it.

It's a bit of a back but works. Let me know if your interested. I can

send.



Hi Chris. I'm definately interested in that. I've tried various options for
this and at the moment I'm using DigiGuide and DABDig but setting the
scheduler myself. DABDig will set it for me but then I still have to create
a schedule to hibernate the computer anyway, and I have to take into account
various settings in DABDig so I know when to set the computer to hibernate.
It all gets a bit much to work out and I think it's simpler, at the moment,
so just set the scheduler myself. I suppose it would be the same with your
program?

What I have done, bearing in mind that I'm not a programmer, is create a
simple script using mainly the sendkeys command that puts a tick in the
'wake computer up' box for the top item in the scheduler. It then changes
the filename to something random with a 'z' at the beginning, so that when
the scheduler is opened again, that item will be at the bottom of the list.
I have to do that because I only want to change the top item, which will be
AT1. Using sendkeys I obviously have to know where the item I want to change
will be in the list. It's very crude and I haven't seriously used it yet but
it does work. What would be nice would be if a program would set the
scheduler to switch on the pc and also hibernate, depending on how long it
is until the next programme set it the timer. I have a program that
hibernates the PC with a simple command line instruction by the way.

From my limited knowledge, I would have thought that a problem with the
program you've written is that you'd have to set DigiGuide to send the alert
way before the program starts, to allow DABDig to put the entries into
DigiTV's registry. That means that the marker in Digiguide will dissapear,
so you wouldn't know what you've set.

Anyway, that's just my 2 pence worth. :)

Geoff.



Geoff January 23rd 04 01:51 PM

"Christopher Anderson" wrote in
message ...
I have written a small program that reads all the entries in registry
relating to DigiTV scheduled recordings and creates scheduled tasks with
the "Wake the computer" flag set. In the end had to use the C++ code
examples in MSDN to work out how to do it.

It's a bit of a back but works. Let me know if your interested. I can

send.



Hi Chris. I'm definately interested in that. I've tried various options for
this and at the moment I'm using DigiGuide and DABDig but setting the
scheduler myself. DABDig will set it for me but then I still have to create
a schedule to hibernate the computer anyway, and I have to take into account
various settings in DABDig so I know when to set the computer to hibernate.
It all gets a bit much to work out and I think it's simpler, at the moment,
so just set the scheduler myself. I suppose it would be the same with your
program?

What I have done, bearing in mind that I'm not a programmer, is create a
simple script using mainly the sendkeys command that puts a tick in the
'wake computer up' box for the top item in the scheduler. It then changes
the filename to something random with a 'z' at the beginning, so that when
the scheduler is opened again, that item will be at the bottom of the list.
I have to do that because I only want to change the top item, which will be
AT1. Using sendkeys I obviously have to know where the item I want to change
will be in the list. It's very crude and I haven't seriously used it yet but
it does work. What would be nice would be if a program would set the
scheduler to switch on the pc and also hibernate, depending on how long it
is until the next programme set it the timer. I have a program that
hibernates the PC with a simple command line instruction by the way.

From my limited knowledge, I would have thought that a problem with the
program you've written is that you'd have to set DigiGuide to send the alert
way before the program starts, to allow DABDig to put the entries into
DigiTV's registry. That means that the marker in Digiguide will dissapear,
so you wouldn't know what you've set.

Anyway, that's just my 2 pence worth. :)

Geoff.



jolly green giant January 24th 04 02:33 PM

see http://www.rjf295.co.uk

It doesn't support consecutive timers yet but the updated version
does, that'll be finished by Monday.


"Geoff" wrote in message ...
Hi everyone,

I have a question about the best way to set my Nebula DigiTV to startup and
shutdown the PC on it's own and make multiple recordings. I've researched
this a bit, and have read what other people suggest with using such programs
as DigDab and Digiguide, but I'm not sure what combination of what program
will really do what I want.

Forget the timer bugs in the Nebula software for now because I think they'll
be resolved soon anyway. What I want to do is be able to set the PC to
switch on at a certain time, then have the program recorded, the PC
hibernate, THEN switch on again at another time, record, hibernate, etc..

I know I can set the PC to hibernate, then have something set in Scheduler
to switch the PC on, then DigiTV will record a program then turn the PC off
if the settings are set to do that. I've tried that just as a test and it
works well. However, the Nebula software won't switch the PC off unless all
the timers have been used. I am away most Weekends though so will want to
set it to record more than once with a large gap in-between, where I'd
rather the PC wasn't left on.

I know I could set Scheduler to turn the PC on at multiple times, but how
about hibernating? I have found a program called Slawdog that will put my PC
into hibernate mode at a chosen time, but then I'll have to not only set the
Nebula software's timer but also Slawdog AND Scheduler.

What would be best would be to set ONLY the timer, and have that take care
of everything, which is something I'd love to see Nebula do in future. I've
know some people use the Digiguide and DigDab software, but I'm not sure
what their features are. Could they be used to do what I want at all?

Does anyone have any suggestions on how I could achieve this without having
to set too many different bits of software please?

I'm using XP Home Edition with SP1 by the way, in case that helps.

Thanks,
Geoff.


jolly green giant January 24th 04 02:33 PM

see http://www.rjf295.co.uk

It doesn't support consecutive timers yet but the updated version
does, that'll be finished by Monday.


"Geoff" wrote in message ...
Hi everyone,

I have a question about the best way to set my Nebula DigiTV to startup and
shutdown the PC on it's own and make multiple recordings. I've researched
this a bit, and have read what other people suggest with using such programs
as DigDab and Digiguide, but I'm not sure what combination of what program
will really do what I want.

Forget the timer bugs in the Nebula software for now because I think they'll
be resolved soon anyway. What I want to do is be able to set the PC to
switch on at a certain time, then have the program recorded, the PC
hibernate, THEN switch on again at another time, record, hibernate, etc..

I know I can set the PC to hibernate, then have something set in Scheduler
to switch the PC on, then DigiTV will record a program then turn the PC off
if the settings are set to do that. I've tried that just as a test and it
works well. However, the Nebula software won't switch the PC off unless all
the timers have been used. I am away most Weekends though so will want to
set it to record more than once with a large gap in-between, where I'd
rather the PC wasn't left on.

I know I could set Scheduler to turn the PC on at multiple times, but how
about hibernating? I have found a program called Slawdog that will put my PC
into hibernate mode at a chosen time, but then I'll have to not only set the
Nebula software's timer but also Slawdog AND Scheduler.

What would be best would be to set ONLY the timer, and have that take care
of everything, which is something I'd love to see Nebula do in future. I've
know some people use the Digiguide and DigDab software, but I'm not sure
what their features are. Could they be used to do what I want at all?

Does anyone have any suggestions on how I could achieve this without having
to set too many different bits of software please?

I'm using XP Home Edition with SP1 by the way, in case that helps.

Thanks,
Geoff.


Geoff January 24th 04 05:55 PM

"jolly green giant" wrote in message
om...
see http://www.rjf295.co.uk

It doesn't support consecutive timers yet but the updated version
does, that'll be finished by Monday.



That looks interesting. I've downloaded it but before I try it, I just want
to ask something. I see that you're using JT, which I thought was for
Win2000 which is why I didn't download that myself. I have XP-Will it work
in XP? I must have read somewhere that it didn't, which is why I didn't try
it myself but maybe I'm mistaken?

Has anyone else tried it?

Thanks,
Geoff.



Geoff January 24th 04 05:55 PM

"jolly green giant" wrote in message
om...
see http://www.rjf295.co.uk

It doesn't support consecutive timers yet but the updated version
does, that'll be finished by Monday.



That looks interesting. I've downloaded it but before I try it, I just want
to ask something. I see that you're using JT, which I thought was for
Win2000 which is why I didn't download that myself. I have XP-Will it work
in XP? I must have read somewhere that it didn't, which is why I didn't try
it myself but maybe I'm mistaken?

Has anyone else tried it?

Thanks,
Geoff.




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