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Dom Robinson July 31st 03 08:34 PM

In article ,
lid says...
In article ,
says...

How do you make a perfect copy of a dual layered DVD movie - on 2 or more
discs? 4.3Gig is the (current) max on a DVD+/-R


Use a program (
http://www.dvdfab.com/) that splits it on to 2 disks.

Slightly more hassle, as you have to change disks during the movie, but
still the same quality as the original.

I do this all the time for my kids, and keep the originals in a safe
place.

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Ant July 31st 03 11:43 PM

On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 08:21:56 +0100, rnet[dot]co[dot]uk
(Simon Gardner) wrote:

Why have onscreen DOGS when the EPG quite clearly tells you


Why do you assume that everyone watching BBC channels in the future will
use a $ky box? They don't have to any more.


That's a very good point - now that the BBC is going to be available
on all kinds of equipment where this functionality cannot be
guaranteed, it strengthens the case for some form of universally
compatible on-screen identification of what people are watching.


QrizB August 1st 03 12:14 AM

On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 21:43:12 GMT, (Ant)
wrote:

On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 08:21:56 +0100,
rnet[dot]co[dot]uk
(Simon Gardner) wrote:

Why have onscreen DOGS when the EPG quite clearly tells you


Why do you assume that everyone watching BBC channels in the future will
use a $ky box? They don't have to any more.


That's a very good point - now that the BBC is going to be available
on all kinds of equipment where this functionality cannot be
guaranteed, it strengthens the case for some form of universally
compatible on-screen identification of what people are watching.


There already is a universally-compatible wotsit included in the DVB
data. DOGS remain a tool of the devil, despised by all right-thinking
people throughout the civilised world.

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be fooled.

Stephen Neal August 1st 03 01:22 AM

On 31/7/03 10:43 pm, in article , "Ant"
wrote:

On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 08:21:56 +0100,
rnet[dot]co[dot]uk
(Simon Gardner) wrote:

Why have onscreen DOGS when the EPG quite clearly tells you


Why do you assume that everyone watching BBC channels in the future will
use a $ky box? They don't have to any more.


That's a very good point - now that the BBC is going to be available
on all kinds of equipment where this functionality cannot be
guaranteed, it strengthens the case for some form of universally
compatible on-screen identification of what people are watching.



Yep - except that the BBC is FTA in the DVB-S standard - which includes
Station ID and Now/Next channel info as part of the basic standard. The Sky
EPG is in addition, rather than as a replacement to this, so the BBC Channel
Ids as displayed on Sky should also appear on FTA receivers. So still no
real requirement for a permanent DOG on-screen - and the Beeb are not
burning them in permanently thankfully.

Steve


James Masterton August 1st 03 06:17 PM

In message , Walt Davidson
writes
ROTFL!! You seem to do little else but watch channels with DOGs ...
simply to check, minute by minute, whether the DOGs are still there!

It's an obsession!


Of course they are obsessed. They have sad empty lives that they fill
with watching TV channels to complain about and then cluttering up
perfectly good newsgroups with whines about their sad little obsession.

I fully support TV channels having identification onscreen. Always have.
Always will. Happily the broadcasters support my point of view. :)
--
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Ant August 1st 03 08:43 PM

On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 22:14:29 GMT, (QrizB) wrote:

There already is a universally-compatible wotsit included in the DVB
data.


But since recievers cannot be relied upon to present this information
to the user, it remains that an embedded picture identifier is the
only truly universal solution.


David Taylor August 2nd 03 02:56 AM

Ant wrote in uk.media.tv.sky on Fri, 01 Aug 2003 18:43:59 GMT:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 22:14:29 GMT, (QrizB) wrote:

There already is a universally-compatible wotsit included in the DVB
data.


But since recievers cannot be relied upon to present this information
to the user, it remains that an embedded picture identifier is the
only truly universal solution.


No, the truly universal solution is for people who want to see the channel
name, to buy something that displays the channel name. It's like saying
you can't guarantee teletext is available on all TVs, thus all TV programs
should have teletext superimposed on them.

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David Taylor August 3rd 03 04:10 PM

Peter Pratten wrote in uk.media.tv.sky on Sat, 2 Aug 2003 22:32:27 +0100:
In uk.tech.digital-tv, rnet writes
In article ,
"artnada" wrote:

Why have onscreen DOGS when the EPG quite clearly tells you


Why do you assume that everyone watching BBC channels in the future will
use a $ky box?

Or even satellite, or even a live broadcast? They may be watching a
recording and want to know which version had been recorded. The
recording won't show this.


Hm, they might be watching a recording and want to know when it was
broadcast. Better make sure to put the date and time along with channel
name and logo on screen at all times. Hmm, you'll need the program name
too. If they're watching a recording they might not be able to get
subtitles, so we'd better put them on too.

Seriously, that's a silly argument for covering up the program with a DOG.

Sure, put a channel/program ident before the program, or in between advert
breaks, but not on-screen 24/7.

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Ant August 3rd 03 08:31 PM

On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 06:15:10 GMT, Jomtien wrote:

But since recievers cannot be relied upon to present this information
to the user,


Name one that doesn't.
If they have "DVB" on the front they will support this.


Assuming that the information is broadcast in the first place, of
course. I'll give you a real-world example. Last night I watched a
programme on my FTA reciever. It did not announce what it was, it did
not announce the channel. There was no on-screen identifier, no EPG
data of any kind, and the channel itself was called something
ridiculous like "SERVICE 0".

Situations like these where an on-screen logo is downright essential,
if you ask me..


Luke Bosman August 4th 03 12:15 PM

Peter Pratten wrote:

In uk.tech.digital-tv, rnet writes
In article ,
"artnada" wrote:

Why have onscreen DOGS when the EPG quite clearly tells you


Why do you assume that everyone watching BBC channels in the future will
use a $ky box?

Or even satellite, or even a live broadcast? They may be watching a
recording and want to know which version had been recorded. The
recording won't show this.


That's why most of us keep a pen in the house somewhere. It's handy for
writing little notes.

Sorry, but these excuses for DOGs are just pathetic. Get a grip.

Luke

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