Sky will soon be inelligable for any new customers
 

Free Sky box offer: You do not have to subscribe to Sky digital. You must
enter into an Interactive Discount Contract (IDC). Offer limited to one per
household. You are ineligible if you have entered into an IDC or your
household has benefited from one. Sky selects your equipment.

The above is a quote from their terms and conditions.

This means when my children grow up and want Sky they cant qualify as their
t & c's say "You are ineligible if you have entered into an IDC or your
household has benefited from one. Sky selects your equipment. "

We are the last generation to get Sky!!

On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:21:04 +0100, "any1" wrote:

Free Sky box offer: You do not have to subscribe to Sky digital. You must
enter into an Interactive Discount Contract (IDC). Offer limited to one per
household. You are ineligible if you have entered into an IDC or your
household has benefited from one. Sky selects your equipment.

The above is a quote from their terms and conditions.

This means when my children grow up and want Sky they cant qualify as their
t & c's say "You are ineligible if you have entered into an IDC or your
household has benefited from one. Sky selects your equipment. "

We are the last generation to get Sky!!

When your children leave home they will be eligible as they will form a new
household.

--
Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur

Not if that household has had Sky!!


"Nigel Barker" wrote in message
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On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:21:04 +0100, "any1" wrote:

Free Sky box offer: You do not have to subscribe to Sky digital. You must
enter into an Interactive Discount Contract (IDC). Offer limited to one
per
household. You are ineligible if you have entered into an IDC or your
household has benefited from one. Sky selects your equipment.

The above is a quote from their terms and conditions.

This means when my children grow up and want Sky they cant qualify as
their
t & c's say "You are ineligible if you have entered into an IDC or your
household has benefited from one. Sky selects your equipment. "

We are the last generation to get Sky!!

When your children leave home they will be eligible as they will form a
new
household.

--
Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur

When you speak to sky they dont say that, its if Sky is registered to that
house number or not, if my wife and I split up, I cant get sky unles she
phones them to tell them she has moved.

As we no longer subscribe to sky then she wouldnt think about phoning them
would she. It would be the same as you phoning a company who you had your
house insurance 5 years ago with to let them know you are moving house.

They wouldnt let us get a new sky subscription at our new house as the
previous owner hadnt bothered to tell them they had moved. Even though the
surname was different

On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 17:45:06 +0100, Mike Henry
wrote:

[quoting order restored]

In , "any1"
wrote:

"Nigel Barker" wrote in message
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On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 16:21:04 +0100, "any1" wrote:

We are the last generation to get Sky!!

When your children leave home they will be eligible as they will form a
new household.

Not if that household has had Sky!!

No, that household can't have had Sky. Your children's household will be
a brand new household. digitiser Do you see? /digitiser

The same would be true if e.g. you divorced your wife (or she you). Then each of
you would form a new household. So you would then both be eligible for a
discount on your Sky box.

--
Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur

any1 wrote:

Free Sky box offer: You do not have to subscribe to Sky digital. You must
enter into an Interactive Discount Contract (IDC). Offer limited to one per
household. You are ineligible if you have entered into an IDC or your
household has benefited from one. Sky selects your equipment.

The above is a quote from their terms and conditions.

This means when my children grow up and want Sky they cant qualify as their
t & c's say "You are ineligible if you have entered into an IDC or your
household has benefited from one. Sky selects your equipment. "

As with many of Sky's T&Cs these are probably unfair and illegal, the
notion of "household" being absurdly vague. They certainly wouldn't be
able to back this up in court and so would never attempt to pursue
anyone for the value of a box if they did ever get two free ones from
this offer.

There is no illegality involved in not respecting vague, unfair and/or
abusive T&Cs. Indeed there is rarely any illegality involved in not
respecting such civil contracts anyway.

Just because Sky write something on paper doesn't make it law or even
legal.

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No monies return'd. ;-)

Mike Henry wrote:

No, that household can't have had Sky. Your children's household will be
a brand new household. digitiser Do you see? /digitiser

This is the assumption and the reasoning behind these T&Cs.

But is there any real legal meaning to the term "household"? I don't
think so. And does my signature really legally bind my un-named wife,
un-named children, and any other un-named people related or not and
living under my roof? I don't think so.

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Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/yvnsy
How to get UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
Fed up with logos / red buttons? : http://logofreetv.org/
BBC gone? : http://www.astra2d.co.uk/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

Jomtien wrote:
Mike Henry wrote:

No, that household can't have had Sky. Your children's household
will be a brand new household. digitiser Do you see? /digitiser

This is the assumption and the reasoning behind these T&Cs.

But is there any real legal meaning to the term "household"? I don't
think so. And does my signature really legally bind my un-named wife,
un-named children, and any other un-named people related or not and
living under my roof? I don't think so.

I quite agree, though in practice it depends on the tellitubbie you speak if
you can actually get them to sign you up.

When I moved I had to dump one insurance company because they wouldn't send
me a quote - the reason given on the phone was that "we do not do buildings
insurance for flats". The fact that the house I wanted to insure is not a
flat - and the other fact that the house I was moving from was not a flat
did not seem to be in any way relevent to them.

I suppose the only thing to do is to ring them back later and hope for
another operator.

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When you speak to sky they dont say that, its if Sky is registered to that
house number or not, if my wife and I split up, I cant get sky unles she
phones them to tell them she has moved.

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my ex didnt even move and got a "new customer" system,
she just used her maiden name on the applicatiom form which is perfectly
legal,
and the cherry on top of the cake was that they still take the subs out of
the original bank account which is in my name!

.....k

On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 07:04:07 GMT, Jomtien wrote:

Just because Sky write something on paper doesn't make it law or even
legal.

We have had this discussion before but I'm glad that you seem to be coming round
to my way of thinking regarding Sky claims. Printed on the Sky card are words to
the effect that the card is the property of Sky Subscriber Services & must be
returned on request. Just because it is written there does not mean that it is
true. If you have never signed a contract with Sky e.g. you have a free cards
sent to you by the BBC or a card you got via the Pout method then the card is
yours to do with as you like.

--
Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur