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bob watkinson September 20th 04 04:26 PM

dvd recording
 
Hi,

I've heard that DVD recorders have built in copyright protection which will
prevent me recording material from sky channels. Can anyone tell me if that
is true? Does it apply to everything on sky or does it depend on the dvd
recorder?

Many thanks, Bob



David Marshall September 20th 04 06:04 PM

In article ,
bob watkinson wrote:
I've heard that DVD recorders have built in copyright protection which will
prevent me recording material from sky channels. Can anyone tell me if that
is true? Does it apply to everything on sky or does it depend on the dvd
recorder?


You have the legal *right* to make recordings of broadcast programming for
the purposes of time-shifting, with the exception of Pay-Per-View; it's an
offence for broadcasters to take measures to try to prevent you from
making such recordings. (Section 70 of the Copyright, Designs and Patents
Act 1988)

Some DVD recorders will be affected by the Macrovision protection used by
Sky to protect some PPV programmes. "Normal" programming is, however,
perfectly recordable, and it's legal for you to do so for later viewing.

Dave
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bob watkinson September 20th 04 08:06 PM




"David Marshall" wrote in message
...
In article ,
bob watkinson wrote:
I've heard that DVD recorders have built in copyright protection which
will
prevent me recording material from sky channels. Can anyone tell me if
that
is true? Does it apply to everything on sky or does it depend on the dvd
recorder?


You have the legal *right* to make recordings of broadcast programming for
the purposes of time-shifting, with the exception of Pay-Per-View; it's an
offence for broadcasters to take measures to try to prevent you from
making such recordings. (Section 70 of the Copyright, Designs and Patents
Act 1988)

Some DVD recorders will be affected by the Macrovision protection used by
Sky to protect some PPV programmes. "Normal" programming is, however,
perfectly recordable, and it's legal for you to do so for later viewing.

Dave
--
Email: MSN Messenger:


Thanks Dave



Tumbleweed September 20th 04 09:28 PM


"bob watkinson" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I've heard that DVD recorders have built in copyright protection which

will
prevent me recording material from sky channels. Can anyone tell me if

that
is true? Does it apply to everything on sky or does it depend on the dvd
recorder?

Many thanks, Bob


Its more that some* Sky channels have in built protection which will stop
most dvds (or videos) from recording. You can also get macrovision removers
to get over this, I suppose they work or they wouldnt sell them?

*generally only the pay per view movie channels
--
Tumbleweed

email replies not necessary but to contact use;
tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com



Paul Hyett September 21st 04 07:44 AM

In uk.media.tv.sky on Mon, 20 Sep 2004, David Marshall wrote :
In article ,
bob watkinson wrote:
I've heard that DVD recorders have built in copyright protection which will
prevent me recording material from sky channels. Can anyone tell me if that
is true? Does it apply to everything on sky or does it depend on the dvd
recorder?


You have the legal *right* to make recordings of broadcast programming for
the purposes of time-shifting, with the exception of Pay-Per-View; it's an
offence for broadcasters to take measures to try to prevent you from
making such recordings. (Section 70 of the Copyright, Designs and Patents
Act 1988)

Some DVD recorders will be affected by the Macrovision protection used by
Sky to protect some PPV programmes. "Normal" programming is, however,
perfectly recordable, and it's legal for you to do so for later viewing.


On thing I was wondering : if you had one of those DVD recorders with a
built-in HD, could you burn programs from HD to DVD faster than it'd
take to watch them live?
--
Paul 'US Sitcom Fan' Hyett




Nigel Barker September 21st 04 12:05 PM

On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 06:44:44 +0100, Paul Hyett
wrote:

In uk.media.tv.sky on Mon, 20 Sep 2004, David Marshall wrote :
In article ,
bob watkinson wrote:
I've heard that DVD recorders have built in copyright protection which will
prevent me recording material from sky channels. Can anyone tell me if that
is true? Does it apply to everything on sky or does it depend on the dvd
recorder?


You have the legal *right* to make recordings of broadcast programming for
the purposes of time-shifting, with the exception of Pay-Per-View; it's an
offence for broadcasters to take measures to try to prevent you from
making such recordings. (Section 70 of the Copyright, Designs and Patents
Act 1988)

Some DVD recorders will be affected by the Macrovision protection used by
Sky to protect some PPV programmes. "Normal" programming is, however,
perfectly recordable, and it's legal for you to do so for later viewing.


On thing I was wondering : if you had one of those DVD recorders with a
built-in HD, could you burn programs from HD to DVD faster than it'd
take to watch them live?


Yes.

--
Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur

Nick September 21st 04 12:27 PM

I have a Hard Drive/ Dvd recorder and it records sky programmes no problem.

When recording to the hard drive you can set what quality you want it in,
main ones being Fine (top quality), SP (still very good quality, I don't see
any difference), LP (noticeable difference like recording to VHS) , EP. When
dubbing from hard drive to dvd the speed depends on what setting it was
recorded at. Fine dubs at normal speeds where all other settings dub at
twice the speed.

Best thing about hard drive recording is you can watch one programme whilst
recording another or watch a dvd whilst recording a programme. On my one you
can also edit out all the commercials before writing it to Dvd.


"Tumbleweed" wrote in message
...

"bob watkinson" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I've heard that DVD recorders have built in copyright protection which

will
prevent me recording material from sky channels. Can anyone tell me if

that
is true? Does it apply to everything on sky or does it depend on the dvd
recorder?

Many thanks, Bob


Its more that some* Sky channels have in built protection which will stop
most dvds (or videos) from recording. You can also get macrovision
removers
to get over this, I suppose they work or they wouldnt sell them?

*generally only the pay per view movie channels
--
Tumbleweed

email replies not necessary but to contact use;
tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com





Nick September 21st 04 12:30 PM

Also forgot to mention I brought mine from the comet website two weeks ago
for £299 which I thought was a baragin. They have stopped doing them at the
moment but keep an eye out on the web they might start it up again.



"Nick" wrote in message
...
I have a Hard Drive/ Dvd recorder and it records sky programmes no problem.

When recording to the hard drive you can set what quality you want it in,
main ones being Fine (top quality), SP (still very good quality, I don't
see any difference), LP (noticeable difference like recording to VHS) ,
EP. When dubbing from hard drive to dvd the speed depends on what setting
it was recorded at. Fine dubs at normal speeds where all other settings
dub at twice the speed.

Best thing about hard drive recording is you can watch one programme
whilst recording another or watch a dvd whilst recording a programme. On
my one you can also edit out all the commercials before writing it to Dvd.


"Tumbleweed" wrote in message
...

"bob watkinson" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I've heard that DVD recorders have built in copyright protection which

will
prevent me recording material from sky channels. Can anyone tell me if

that
is true? Does it apply to everything on sky or does it depend on the dvd
recorder?

Many thanks, Bob


Its more that some* Sky channels have in built protection which will stop
most dvds (or videos) from recording. You can also get macrovision
removers
to get over this, I suppose they work or they wouldnt sell them?

*generally only the pay per view movie channels
--
Tumbleweed

email replies not necessary but to contact use;
tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com







Brian September 21st 04 09:31 PM

Paul Hyett wrote:
On thing I was wondering : if you had one of those DVD recorders with a
built-in HD, could you burn programs from HD to DVD faster than it'd
take to watch them live?


Apparently yes - http://www.dvdworld.co.uk/hardware_body.asp?pf_id=86233
- though I haven't done it.

Brian

Jomtien September 22nd 04 07:43 AM

Paul Hyett wrote:

On thing I was wondering : if you had one of those DVD recorders with a
built-in HD, could you burn programs from HD to DVD faster than it'd
take to watch them live?


Most do. Some don't. Some allow for on-the-fly bitrate changes when
doing this. Some don't.

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