Sky Multiroom Question
 

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I am a Sky subscriber and i`m thinking about installing a system at my
grandparents home.

Obviously the thought of paying another £40 odd a month is quite a lot of
money each month.

Therefore i was thinking if i was to take advantage of sky's multirooms
extra subscription for £10 per month.

I know that i would have to get the card switched on and married to a new
box at my home and to do a call back on my phone line, but after this how
often do sky do call-backs?

Has anyone else done a similar thing?

I suppose technically, it is possible, but I think you would be breaching a
contract.

Thats why they insist that both boxes are connected to the same phone-line.
That is the way they confirm that they are at the same registered address.

On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 15:12:38 +0100, "Robert Mccall"
wrote:

Help

I am a Sky subscriber and i`m thinking about installing a system at my
grandparents home.

Obviously the thought of paying another £40 odd a month is quite a lot of
money each month.

That's only if you insist on the full line-up of Sports & Movies. The Family
package is around 19.50 pounds per month.

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Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur

Brendan DJ Murphy wrote:

I suppose technically, it is possible, but I think you would be breaching
a contract.

Thats why they insist that both boxes are connected to the same
phone-line. That is the way they confirm that they are at the same
registered address.

Just curious - what if you change the dialed number so that caller ID is
blocked ?

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Angus Marshall wrote:
Brendan DJ Murphy wrote:

I suppose technically, it is possible, but I think you would be
breaching a contract.

Thats why they insist that both boxes are connected to the same
phone-line. That is the way they confirm that they are at the same
registered address.

Just curious - what if you change the dialed number so that caller
ID is blocked ?

If you do block CLI you get a polite letter telling you that there is a
problem which you have to sort out, if you don't it ramps up. Happened to
me as my CLI is permanently blocked & the Sky subcontracting monkeys didn't
set the boxes up correctly, didn't want to climb a ladder either but that's
another matter. They didn't put the dish/LNB together properly but here
again that's another matter. Most of it's been sorted now (accept the
position of the dish which I'll get done after the 12 months is up)...

On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 16:00:21 +0100, "Brendan DJ Murphy"
wrote:

I suppose technically, it is possible, but I think you would be breaching a
contract.

Agreed.

Thats why they insist that both boxes are connected to the same phone-line.
That is the way they confirm that they are at the same registered address.

Two (or more boxes) have to present the same CLI - that doesn't mean
they have to be at the same address. I did use a presentation number
from two addresses for a while - fooled BSkyB.

--
Hiram Hackenbacker

Angus Marshall wrote:
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Just curious - what if you change the dialed number so that caller ID is
blocked ?

If the digibox isn't prefixing the dial number with 141 to get around any
defaulted CLI withhold setting (which I doubt), you'd likely get a
nastygram^Wnice letter from BSkyB telling you to stop ****ing about with it :)

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On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 17:21:14 +0000 (UTC), "Nugget"
wrote:

What if the boxes are rotated weekly, and only the one at my house is
connected to the phone. Could we get away with that with a mirror
subscription at my mams house?

Almost certainly not - the call back from paired systems have to
happen within a short time span as I originally found out. I would put
that time span at 24 hours.

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Hiram Hackenbacker

In theory (due to lack of need and bother) would it not be possible to do
sky multiroom to a nearby house via very long phone & sky cables? It would
have to be to a trusting person of course but in theory shouldn't it work?
Do you get the same channels on the 2nd subscription? If so then could two
households not get the full sky subscription for £25 each? Hyperthetically
speaking of course.

"Mike Henry" wrote in message
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In , "Nugget"
wrote:

What if the boxes are rotated weekly, and only the one at my house is
connected to the phone. Could we get away with that with a mirror
subscription at my mams house?

No, you can't get away with fraud like that.

Morally or practically?

Nugget wrote:

What if the boxes are rotated weekly, and only the one at my house is
connected to the phone. Could we get away with that with a mirror
subscription at my mams house?

AFAIK the test is run on an irregular basis but relies on both boxes
ringing home from the same line at more or less the same time. So the
answer is probably no.

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Dave wrote:

In theory (due to lack of need and bother) would it not be possible to do
sky multiroom to a nearby house via very long phone & sky cables?

Yes. Only the phone cable is needed. The rest of the equipment would
be quite independent. Proper provision should be made to prevent
electrical problems.

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Paul Martin wrote:

A DECT socket might do instead.

It certainly would over a short distance. Argos sell suitable units,
IIRC.

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Hiram Hackenbacker wrote:

I would put
that time span at 24 hours.

As much as that?

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----
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On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 07:13:30 GMT, Jomtien wrote:

Hiram Hackenbacker wrote:

I would put
that time span at 24 hours.

As much as that?

All I know is it was no greater than 24 hours - and appeared to have
happened overnight.

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Hiram Hackenbacker

On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 19:39:43 +0100, Mike Henry
wrote:

In , "Nugget"
wrote:

What if the boxes are rotated weekly, and only the one at my house is
connected to the phone. Could we get away with that with a mirror
subscription at my mams house?

No, you can't get away with fraud like that.

And people wonder why Sky have to impose these restrictions...

"Nugget" wrote in message ...
What if the boxes are rotated weekly, and only the one at my house is
connected to the phone. Could we get away with that with a mirror
subscription at my mams house?

FFS, pay for what you use you ****ing chav.

"Nige" wrote in message
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"Nugget" wrote in message
...
What if the boxes are rotated weekly, and only the one at my house is
connected to the phone. Could we get away with that with a mirror
subscription at my mams house?

FFS, pay for what you use you ****ing chav.

Good retort, "Nige"

"Nugget" wrote in message ...
"Nige" wrote in message
...

"Nugget" wrote in message
...
What if the boxes are rotated weekly, and only the one at my house is
connected to the phone. Could we get away with that with a mirror
subscription at my mams house?

FFS, pay for what you use you ****ing chav.

Good retort, "Nige"



Yeah, chav.

Hiram Hackenbacker wrote:

I would put
that time span at 24 hours.

As much as that?

All I know is it was no greater than 24 hours - and appeared to have
happened overnight.

All call-backs are generally implemented overnight (I suspect that
this is part of the agreement Sky have made with the telecom operator
so as to use excess night-time capacity).

If I had programmed this I would have gone for a 1 hour window for
both calls, with repeats until successful.

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Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/yvnsy
How to get UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
Fed up with logos / red buttons? : http://logofreetv.org/
BBC gone? : http://www.astra2d.co.uk/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 08:19:59 GMT, Jomtien wrote:

Hiram Hackenbacker wrote:

I would put
that time span at 24 hours.

As much as that?

All I know is it was no greater than 24 hours - and appeared to have
happened overnight.

All call-backs are generally implemented overnight (I suspect that
this is part of the agreement Sky have made with the telecom operator
so as to use excess night-time capacity).

Seems reasonable/sensible.

If I had programmed this I would have gone for a 1 hour window for
both calls, with repeats until successful.

I would probably have done something similar. However I switched off
one box this summer holiday since the children were away for six weeks
- keeping it connected to a working telephone line in line with the
conditions of the mirror sub (:-)).

The other box (at that property) was on and was the one I used. I
haven't had a letter yet.

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Hiram Hackenbacker

Hiram Hackenbacker wrote:

The other box (at that property) was on and was the one I used. I
haven't had a letter yet.

The letter seems to take about 2 - 3 months to arrive. This might
suggest that call-backs are once a month and that one missed one
doesn't ring any alarm bells.

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Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/yvnsy
How to get UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
Fed up with logos / red buttons? : http://logofreetv.org/
BBC gone? : http://www.astra2d.co.uk/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)