sound meter from Ebay?
 

I have the "Avia Guide to Home Theatre" DVD, and I want to calibrate both
the sound and video of my HT system (PB6100 video projector, Onkyo HT-760
home theater sound system).

1) Sound: I want to pick up a sound meter (Probably a Radio Shack model)
from eBay. Avia says that the analog meter is actually better to get than
the digital meter.... comments?

2) Radioshack.ca is selling a different (newer model - model 33-4050,
$69.99 plus tax and shipping - I can get it locally for the same) than what
is being sold on eBay (ex: 33-2050). Any real difference with the older
model? Comments?

3) I have not bought on eBay before (rookie!)... any advice?

Howie

Howie wrote:


3) I have not bought on eBay before (rookie!)... any advice?

For a first timer... just use someone with both a lot of feedback
(several hundreds to thousands), and a high ratio of positive
feedback... 99%+

Dealing with less 'established' people is certainly not a bad thing, but
its riskier, and there are steps you can take to protect yourself, but
my advice is just avoid them for now.

Other than that, be polite. Be very prompt with your payment and
communication. Ask any product questions you have in advance of bidding.
And make sure you understand payment and shipping conditions in advance
of bidding.

"Howie" wrote in message
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I have the "Avia Guide to Home Theatre" DVD, and I want to calibrate both
the sound and video of my HT system (PB6100 video projector, Onkyo HT-760
home theater sound system).

1) Sound: I want to pick up a sound meter (Probably a Radio Shack model)
from eBay. Avia says that the analog meter is actually better to get than
the digital meter.... comments?


I have the Onkyo System, used the Avia disk with a digital sound meter. No
real preference except analog visual instead of a digital readout. Want to
read 75db....no need to guess if it's 74-75-76, etc. Not much difference to
notice.

2) Radioshack.ca is selling a different (newer model - model 33-4050,
$69.99 plus tax and shipping - I can get it locally for the same) than
what
is being sold on eBay (ex: 33-2050). Any real difference with the older
model? Comments?


Na, older is fine

3) I have not bought on eBay before (rookie!)... any advice?

Howie


Sign up for and use paypal. Make sure the seller takes paypal. Triple read
the auction to make sure there are no play on words.

I recently bought the digital version from a local Rat Shack for $50 + tax, it
does a fine job. Why buy off EPAY if you can get it local?

Chris

Howie wrote:

I have the "Avia Guide to Home Theatre" DVD, and I want to calibrate both
the sound and video of my HT system (PB6100 video projector, Onkyo HT-760
home theater sound system).

1) Sound: I want to pick up a sound meter (Probably a Radio Shack model)
from eBay. Avia says that the analog meter is actually better to get than
the digital meter.... comments?

2) Radioshack.ca is selling a different (newer model - model 33-4050,
$69.99 plus tax and shipping - I can get it locally for the same) than what
is being sold on eBay (ex: 33-2050). Any real difference with the older
model? Comments?

3) I have not bought on eBay before (rookie!)... any advice?

Howie

I bought an analog radio shack on ebay. The digital would prove just as
capable. Expect to pay around $30 or so for either ... slightly used. That
seems to be the lowest price, better than the straight Shack purchase.

R / John

"Howie" wrote in message
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I have the "Avia Guide to Home Theatre" DVD, and I want to calibrate both
the sound and video of my HT system (PB6100 video projector, Onkyo HT-760
home theater sound system).

1) Sound: I want to pick up a sound meter (Probably a Radio Shack model)
from eBay. Avia says that the analog meter is actually better to get than
the digital meter.... comments?

2) Radioshack.ca is selling a different (newer model - model 33-4050,
$69.99 plus tax and shipping - I can get it locally for the same) than
what
is being sold on eBay (ex: 33-2050). Any real difference with the older
model? Comments?

3) I have not bought on eBay before (rookie!)... any advice?

Howie

"Howie" wrote in message
...
I have the "Avia Guide to Home Theatre" DVD, and I want to calibrate both
the sound and video of my HT system (PB6100 video projector, Onkyo HT-760
home theater sound system).

1) Sound: I want to pick up a sound meter (Probably a Radio Shack model)
from eBay. Avia says that the analog meter is actually better to get than
the digital meter.... comments?

the digital will work, but the analog meter has a much faster response time
and is cheaper. someone said its too hard for them to tell if its 96 or 97
or 98 db. clearly they have never used the analog meter. its very easy to
discern 1db increments even 1/2 db increments. i think you could get about
1/4 db accuracy with very little practice and thats less than the ear can
hear.


2) Radioshack.ca is selling a different (newer model - model 33-4050,
$69.99 plus tax and shipping - I can get it locally for the same) than
what
is being sold on eBay (ex: 33-2050). Any real difference with the older
model? Comments?

thats about 2-3 times what i paid for my analog one that works.


3) I have not bought on eBay before (rookie!)... any advice?

search the web or google. there are entire volumes of advice on how to
handle ebay.

randy

SNIP

These particular Japanese Junkyard meters are fine for their application
for
the consumers. They get close enough. Digital or analog will work just
fine
(re-read my post to the op). No need to throw good money away.

How very true. "Better" is often the enemy of "good enough." Either radio
shack meter will do a more than adequate job for the average H/T setup.

For the golden ears who bi-wire 99.9% silver speaker wire and calibrate
their video every time they screen a new DVD, the solution lies elsewhere.

R / John

In article ,
"Howie" wrote:

I have the "Avia Guide to Home Theatre" DVD, and I want to calibrate both
the sound and video of my HT system (PB6100 video projector, Onkyo HT-760
home theater sound system).

1) Sound: I want to pick up a sound meter (Probably a Radio Shack model)
from eBay. Avia says that the analog meter is actually better to get than
the digital meter.... comments?

2) Radioshack.ca is selling a different (newer model - model 33-4050,
$69.99 plus tax and shipping - I can get it locally for the same) than what
is being sold on eBay (ex: 33-2050). Any real difference with the older
model? Comments?

3) I have not bought on eBay before (rookie!)... any advice?

Howie



Howie,
I've had both the analog and digital Shack models and find the digital
much more accurate and easier to use. Should set it for Slow and B
setting to set levels. I happen to have two of them and you can have one
for $20 plus shipping. Perfect shape. Simpler than eBay. You can check
my positive feedback at Audiogon -

"John Carrier" wrote in message
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SNIP

These particular Japanese Junkyard meters are fine for their application
for
the consumers. They get close enough. Digital or analog will work just
fine
(re-read my post to the op). No need to throw good money away.

How very true. "Better" is often the enemy of "good enough." Either
radio
shack meter will do a more than adequate job for the average H/T setup.

For the golden ears who bi-wire 99.9% silver speaker wire and calibrate
their video every time they screen a new DVD, the solution lies elsewhere.

R / John



ROFL, isn't that the truth :)

"henry33" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Howie" wrote:

I have the "Avia Guide to Home Theatre" DVD, and I want to calibrate
both
the sound and video of my HT system (PB6100 video projector, Onkyo
HT-760
home theater sound system).

1) Sound: I want to pick up a sound meter (Probably a Radio Shack
model)
from eBay. Avia says that the analog meter is actually better to get
than
the digital meter.... comments?

2) Radioshack.ca is selling a different (newer model - model 33-4050,
$69.99 plus tax and shipping - I can get it locally for the same) than
what
is being sold on eBay (ex: 33-2050). Any real difference with the older
model? Comments?

3) I have not bought on eBay before (rookie!)... any advice?

Howie



Howie,
I've had both the analog and digital Shack models and find the digital
much more accurate and easier to use. Should set it for Slow and B
setting to set levels. I happen to have two of them and you can have one
for $20 plus shipping. Perfect shape. Simpler than eBay. You can check
my positive feedback at Audiogon -

That's a steal for a digital. What, $25 total? At least twice that new. :)

John Carrier wrote:
..

For the golden ears who bi-wire 99.9% silver speaker wire and calibrate
their video every time they screen a new DVD, the solution lies elsewhere.

R / John



Yep. it's the p sy chiatrist.

Clay

Sounds like a good deal, I emailed you - did you get me email?

Howie

"henry33" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Howie" wrote:

I have the "Avia Guide to Home Theatre" DVD, and I want to calibrate
both
the sound and video of my HT system (PB6100 video projector, Onkyo
HT-760
home theater sound system).

1) Sound: I want to pick up a sound meter (Probably a Radio Shack
model)
from eBay. Avia says that the analog meter is actually better to get
than
the digital meter.... comments?

2) Radioshack.ca is selling a different (newer model - model 33-4050,
$69.99 plus tax and shipping - I can get it locally for the same) than
what
is being sold on eBay (ex: 33-2050). Any real difference with the older
model? Comments?

3) I have not bought on eBay before (rookie!)... any advice?

Howie



Howie,
I've had both the analog and digital Shack models and find the digital
much more accurate and easier to use. Should set it for Slow and B
setting to set levels. I happen to have two of them and you can have one
for $20 plus shipping. Perfect shape. Simpler than eBay. You can check
my positive feedback at Audiogon -

"UnFriendly Fire" wrote in message
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"B. Earp" wrote in message
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Tripe. In most instances, a digital meter "blows" an analog meter
away in both response time and accuracy....

but not in this particular instance -

(Another wanna-be tech) Look sparky, How in the WORLD does this particular
instance change how the digital meter in accuracy and response time change
and suddenly become inferior to an analog meter?

because in this instance the response time of the digital meter is a lot
lower than the analog's. This was already said elsewhere in this thread,
and also the last time we went through all this and more in an older thread.
We were all talking about RS meters before you spun things by brining up the
ones that you fondle for money.

the RS digital one is a pain compared
to the RS analog one.

That, dumbass, is a different issue all together and subject to the
"reading" skills of the user. RTFB (read the ****ing beek)

no, it's the same issue, because slow response is a pain. Have you even
used the ones we're talking about? I didn't think so.

It's all been discussed here before - the details are
somewhere in Google Groups.

Um, that's nice, but I don't need to google something I already KNOW.

In that case do a search on how to control yourself. Hostile over a sound
meter discussion, what's the world coming to...

"B. Earp" wrote in message
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"UnFriendly Fire" wrote in message
. ..

"B. Earp" wrote in message
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Tripe. In most instances, a digital meter "blows" an analog meter
away in both response time and accuracy....

but not in this particular instance -

(Another wanna-be tech) Look sparky, How in the WORLD does this
particular
instance change how the digital meter in accuracy and response time
change
and suddenly become inferior to an analog meter?

because in this instance the response time of the digital meter is a lot
lower than the analog's.

Response time? Because you see the needle "actually" moving, you call that
response with accuracy? Welcome to the world of analog vs digital. Just
because you rattle the bag does not mean anything is worth a crap inside.

This was already said elsewhere in this thread,
and also the last time we went through all this and more in an older
thread.

Great, blind leading the blind obviously.

We were all talking about RS meters before you spun things by brining up
the
ones that you fondle for money.


ROFL. Another fallacy of logic. Google that and get back to me!

the RS digital one is a pain compared
to the RS analog one.

That, dumbass, is a different issue all together and subject to the
"reading" skills of the user. RTFB (read the ****ing beek)

no, it's the same issue, because slow response is a pain. Have you even
used the ones we're talking about? I didn't think so.


Stop thinking, there in lies your problem. Not only have I used them,
calibrated them....I own both models. I quite possibly have been using the
analog model before you were old enough to fondle yourself! As for slow
response is a pain.....is it a pain to "wait" for the needle to move and
flutter at mid scale? Idiot!

It's all been discussed here before - the details are
somewhere in Google Groups.

Um, that's nice, but I don't need to google something I already KNOW.

In that case do a search on how to control yourself. Hostile over a sound
meter discussion, what's the world coming to...

Hostile? Who is hostie? I'm pointing out the fact that tripe little
wanna-be's like you offer up advise and cut down others that actually KNOW
what they're talking about. What ground breaking information did your
dribble offer up? Nada, zilch, nutin. All you did was come at me. So, crawl
back under your bridge.......you don't own Usenet.

much discussion snipped

In that case do a search on how to control yourself. Hostile over a
sound
meter discussion, what's the world coming to...

Hostile? Who is hostie? I'm pointing out the fact that tripe little
wanna-be's like you snip

Now *that* made me laugh!

Harvey

Eclipsme wrote:
much discussion snipped

In that case do a search on how to control yourself. Hostile over a

sound

meter discussion, what's the world coming to...

Hostile? Who is hostie? I'm pointing out the fact that tripe little

wanna-be's like you snip

Now *that* made me laugh!

Harvey



Made me laugh too. It was a rather funny thread to read.
And then the "What, me hostile?" ending was perfect.

Mike

hiiii UnFriendly...

Response time? Because you see the needle "actually" moving, you call that
response with accuracy? Welcome to the world of analog vs digital. Just
because you rattle the bag does not mean anything is worth a crap inside.

yea whatever, as long as we're spinning things again and focusing out of the
specific and going to the general, why don't we throw in a good old vinyl vs
CD debate just for good measure (I said response time, not accuracy, but
remember the difference between accuracy and precision? and remember when
you said it's all about getting all channels equal, something you were
actually correct on...well, Mr. Metrology Whiz, that all relies on
precision, not accuracy)

ROFL.

You actually laugh?

Another fallacy of logic. Google that and get back to me!

yet again, it's Google Groups, not Google.

http://www.google.com/advanced_group_search?hl=en

I trust that you can figure out the rest. My oh so hostile response that
set you off is there too.

Stop thinking, there in lies your problem. Not only have I used them,
calibrated them....I own both models. I quite possibly have been using the
analog model before you were old enough to fondle yourself! As for slow
response is a pain.....is it a pain to "wait" for the needle to move and
flutter at mid scale? Idiot!

Your expertise in the field of set screw rotation until a display tells you
it's time to stop is so impressive, I don't blame you for mentioning a
second time that you're adept at calibrating meters. Now getting back to RS
meters and calibration of your head, I mean home theater, I guess you never
noticed that as you make speaker level adjustments, the analog meter changes
cooperatively at the same rate, whereas the digital one lags, you realize
you've overshot, you have to adjust again, wait again for the reading to
update because it's blank half the time, the bar graph at the bottom another
distraction...

Anyway, now we're back to personal preference, which is really where this
started, so this is going in circles. You say digital, I say analog. Knock
yourself out. I'm getting bored.

Hostile? Who is hostie? I'm pointing out the fact that tripe little
wanna-be's like you

Just as I was questioning why I bother with this, a classic response like
that made it all worthwhile.