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Daniel Titley June 10th 04 12:17 PM

Chris wrote in message . ..
BBC Radio 6 News 10.30am

"BSKYB to offer a "Free To Air" rival to the Freeview service with 200
Radio and TV channels for a one off £150 pounds"

I suspect someone has got the wrong end of the stick somewhere as I
doubt it will be Free To Air but will require some form of FTV card

I also suspect many of those 200 channels will be Radio and Shopping
channels


Stuff I noticed from the offical Sky press release
(http://tinyurl.com/2s9v5):

1. An entire pragraph on how easy it will be for people to "add a
pay-TV service to their viewing options".
Clearly this is Skys true motivation for doing this, not some rubbish
about supporting the Government's proposed switchover to digital-only
broadcasting.

2. The channel package will include all national and regional variants
of BBC One and BBC Two.
Since there are 4 different versions of BBC Two (England, Wales,
Scotland & Northern Ireland), and about 20 of different versions of
BBC One, that is a big chunk of the 200 channels taken up there.

Benji June 10th 04 04:36 PM

Ummmm Yeah Right another £30 quid for inventing the wheel again ! (old
instillation cost £120 NOW £150) I am sure the whole 81 radio channels will
be included in this package !. I guess at least everyone can watch those
crappy free channels now, well apart from the Horror Channel (of course !
:-) )!.

Talk about collar the market, and remove the competition (freeview service).
There must be a mergers commsion to hand to input their thoughts on this
matter (there usually is-when it suits them anyway !!!!!!!!!). Typical UK
service SCREW the consumer, and line the pockets of the big giants !. No
wonder this country is slowly going down the toilet !, why dont those ****s
in the goverment make up, its not all about switching off analogue.

Ben


"Chris" wrote in message
...

BBC Radio 6 News 10.30am

"BSKYB to offer a "Free To Air" rival to the Freeview service with 200
Radio and TV channels for a one off £150 pounds"

I suspect someone has got the wrong end of the stick somewhere as I
doubt it will be Free To Air but will require some form of FTV card

I also suspect many of those 200 channels will be Radio and Shopping
channels

Chris




Neil Hopkins June 10th 04 07:13 PM

On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 02:02:40 GMT,
(Nick Cooper) wrote:

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 19:12:08 +0100, Parish wrote:

Chris wrote:

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 10:34:13 +0100, Chris
wrote:

BBC Now have an article

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3790127.stm

It is amusing that the first thing you see is a picture of an ugly old
dish (not a minidish) stuck up very lazily on the front of a bay
window blocking the window and the caption "You'll need one of these
to pick up Sky's new package"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3790127.stm


Looks like someone at the Beeb read your post as they've changed the
picture now :-)


Shame about all the prejudiced and misinformed ****e pople are posting
to the BBC site, though....


Yep, there are lots of comments about ugly dustbin lids nailed to the
side of houses. Personally, I think a mini dish tucked discreetly
under the eaves of a house is a lot less intrusive than a stonking
great rusty aerial on the chimney.

--
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Paul June 11th 04 12:09 PM

"Mike Cawood, HND BIT" wrote in message
...
It will be Free-to-view with a card supplied.
Regards Mike.

Yep, no mention of what happens when they change the
current sky cards either. A news item this morning said
cards would be guaranteed for 2 years but no mention
of how much it would cost to get a FTV after that.

I wonder whether the BBC understand anything about
their digital satellite service at all ?
Meanwhile, Andy Duncan, director of marketing,
communications and audiences at the BBC said:
"This is good news for our viewers as it provides
another route to all the BBC's digital services
without subscription".

Doesn't this moron know that you already don't
need a subscription for the BBC digital services ?
Skys new 'offer' doesn't give another route at all
those wanting the BBC services. Infact, at £150,
it's considerably more expensive than buying a
2nd hand receiver and dish.

The best thing the BBC ever did was go FTA.
No more annoying red dot or having to pay
sky £10 for the use of PVR.



IanB June 11th 04 03:00 PM

"Philip Green" wrote...

They've done this in the past, in the good old days of analogue. Loads of
stuff was unencrypted and then they introduced encryption and
subscription.


We have Sky because it was the cheapest way to get decent reception in
our house. If we stopped paying the subscription, would we get
anything at all?

Ib.

Nicholas F Hodder June 11th 04 03:57 PM

"Mark Hewitt" wrote in message
...

"Nicholas F Hodder" wrote in message
...
The official press release is he



http://www.corporate-ir.net/ireye/ir... em_id=580035

Given that Sky One is funded by advertising, why isn't it included, just
like ITV1 is?


Because Sky One isn't entirely funded by advertising?


Then why does Sky One have more adverts than ITV1 or Channel 4, which are
both funded entirely by advertising?



Chris June 11th 04 04:53 PM

On 11 Jun 2004 06:00:31 -0700, (IanB) wrote:

"Philip Green" wrote...

They've done this in the past, in the good old days of analogue. Loads of
stuff was unencrypted and then they introduced encryption and
subscription.


We have Sky because it was the cheapest way to get decent reception in
our house. If we stopped paying the subscription, would we get
anything at all?


Pull out the card you get all those channels that are left including
BBC, Sky News, Reality, the ex sub card will enable 3 FTV channels
ITV1, ch4 and five NOT ITV2

http://www.vowles-home.demon.co.uk/Sat/SkyFTA.htm


Nigel Barker June 11th 04 08:03 PM

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 14:57:26 +0100, "Nicholas F Hodder" wrote:

"Mark Hewitt" wrote in message
...

"Nicholas F Hodder" wrote in message
...
The official press release is he



http://www.corporate-ir.net/ireye/ir... em_id=580035

Given that Sky One is funded by advertising, why isn't it included, just
like ITV1 is?


Because Sky One isn't entirely funded by advertising?


Then why does Sky One have more adverts than ITV1 or Channel 4, which are
both funded entirely by advertising?


Because they have a much smaller number of viewers for any individual channel so
the amount that they can charge for a 30 second advert is much lower. Even
Channel Five has loads more viewers than Sky One.

--
Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur

Jomtien June 12th 04 07:12 AM

IanB wrote:

We have Sky because it was the cheapest way to get decent reception in
our house. If we stopped paying the subscription, would we get
anything at all?


This is a FAQ.

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/yvnsy
How to get UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
Fed up with logos / red buttons? : http://logofreetv.org/
BBC gone? : http://www.astra2d.co.uk/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

Marcus Houlden June 12th 04 12:58 PM

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 18:03:00 GMT, Nigel Barker
wrote the following to uk.media.tv.misc:

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 14:57:26 +0100, "Nicholas F Hodder" wrote:

"Mark Hewitt" wrote in message
...

"Nicholas F Hodder" wrote in message
...
The official press release is he



http://www.corporate-ir.net/ireye/ir... em_id=580035

Given that Sky One is funded by advertising, why isn't it included, just
like ITV1 is?

Because Sky One isn't entirely funded by advertising?


Then why does Sky One have more adverts than ITV1 or Channel 4, which are
both funded entirely by advertising?


Because they have a much smaller number of viewers for any individual channel so
the amount that they can charge for a 30 second advert is much lower. Even
Channel Five has loads more viewers than Sky One.


It would be nice if someone pointed out to UKTV that they could show more
adverts (and get more revenue) if they didn't show quite so many trailers,
break bumpers and other bits of branding. Adverts don't bother me quite as
much as all their marketing stuff; at least I know they help them to pay for
the programmes.

mh.
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