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Sky+ hard drive crashes again!!!
Yes, for the second time since Feb '03 I've lost a full disc of recordings. And
a "System Fault" is preventing me from making new recordings. I spent 10 minutes on the phone to Sky and the only solution is to have a service engineer visit. (I think on both occasions the fault occurred when I made a recording which caused the disc to hit its maximum capacity. Is this a common fault?) Last time this happened the box was infixable and they replaced it. This time the box is outside it's warranty and I'm being asked for £65 for the service engineer's visit. Does anyone have any advice on how to handle this? I'm reluctant to to give Sky £65, probably just for the guy to tell me I have to spend another £199 for a new box. I'm thinking about just buying a new box from Comets or somewhere. Thanks, Simon |
Does anyone have any advice on how to handle this? I'm reluctant to to
give Sky £65, probably just for the guy to tell me I have to spend another £199 for a new box. I'm thinking about just buying a new box from Comets or somewhere. I went through 3 boxes during my first year and my current one has now taken me out of the 12 month warranty. From what I know none of the "engineers" actually examine the inside of the box and will replace yours with a reconditioned one - for £65. Perhaps someone else can confrim this and how long the warranty is on the "repair". PS, Dont forget to scream at them for loss of use (and recordings) - I got a free month each time. |
Does anyone have any advice on how to handle this? I'm reluctant to to
give Sky £65, probably just for the guy to tell me I have to spend another £199 for a new box. I'm thinking about just buying a new box from Comets or somewhere. I went through 3 boxes during my first year and my current one has now taken me out of the 12 month warranty. From what I know none of the "engineers" actually examine the inside of the box and will replace yours with a reconditioned one - for £65. Perhaps someone else can confrim this and how long the warranty is on the "repair". PS, Dont forget to scream at them for loss of use (and recordings) - I got a free month each time. |
"Poncho & Lefty" wrote in message
... Does anyone have any advice on how to handle this? I'm reluctant to to give Sky £65, probably just for the guy to tell me I have to spend another £199 for a new box. I'm thinking about just buying a new box from Comets or somewhere. I went through 3 boxes during my first year and my current one has now taken me out of the 12 month warranty. From what I know none of the "engineers" actually examine the inside of the box and will replace yours with a reconditioned one - for £65. Perhaps someone else can confrim this and how long the warranty is on the "repair". PS, Dont forget to scream at them for loss of use (and recordings) - I got a free month each time. Well, the recordings are gone. Full stop. However, enter this exactly as you see here - Services, 4, 0, 1 SELECT You will see option 7 - FULL SYSTEM RESET. This will re-format your HDD on the Sky+ box, and will then reboot. You should be fine then! All the best, Simon -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Kernow Telecom - Cheap international calls (India only 10p/min on 0871 570 8216), (USA, Europe and Oz National rate on 0870 794 8303/0844 570 8303) Email us for more rates and unlocking offers! **Old website still going- http://kernow-telecom.co.uk** ------------------------------------------------------------------ |
"Poncho & Lefty" wrote in message
... Does anyone have any advice on how to handle this? I'm reluctant to to give Sky £65, probably just for the guy to tell me I have to spend another £199 for a new box. I'm thinking about just buying a new box from Comets or somewhere. I went through 3 boxes during my first year and my current one has now taken me out of the 12 month warranty. From what I know none of the "engineers" actually examine the inside of the box and will replace yours with a reconditioned one - for £65. Perhaps someone else can confrim this and how long the warranty is on the "repair". PS, Dont forget to scream at them for loss of use (and recordings) - I got a free month each time. Well, the recordings are gone. Full stop. However, enter this exactly as you see here - Services, 4, 0, 1 SELECT You will see option 7 - FULL SYSTEM RESET. This will re-format your HDD on the Sky+ box, and will then reboot. You should be fine then! All the best, Simon -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Kernow Telecom - Cheap international calls (India only 10p/min on 0871 570 8216), (USA, Europe and Oz National rate on 0870 794 8303/0844 570 8303) Email us for more rates and unlocking offers! **Old website still going- http://kernow-telecom.co.uk** ------------------------------------------------------------------ |
Simon Ough wrote:
This will re-format your HDD on the Sky+ box, and will then reboot. You should be fine then! Not if the hard drive has cooked, which is the most common problem with Sky+ boxes. A recent software upgrade has reprogrammed the fan to come on much more often but if the damage has already been done then no amount of cooling will help the drive. Nor, incidentally will full system resets. Try it by all means, but don't be surprised if it belly flops again in a very short space of time. My advice would be to try the reset and if that fails spend the money on a new hard drive and fit it yourself. Any fluid bearing Maxtor 40Gb drive should do. Regards Mark |
Simon Ough wrote:
This will re-format your HDD on the Sky+ box, and will then reboot. You should be fine then! Not if the hard drive has cooked, which is the most common problem with Sky+ boxes. A recent software upgrade has reprogrammed the fan to come on much more often but if the damage has already been done then no amount of cooling will help the drive. Nor, incidentally will full system resets. Try it by all means, but don't be surprised if it belly flops again in a very short space of time. My advice would be to try the reset and if that fails spend the money on a new hard drive and fit it yourself. Any fluid bearing Maxtor 40Gb drive should do. Regards Mark |
Simonbr120 wrote:
|| Yes, for the second time since Feb '03 I've lost a full disc of || recordings. And a "System Fault" is preventing me from making new || recordings. || || I spent 10 minutes on the phone to Sky and the only solution is to || have a service engineer visit. || || (I think on both occasions the fault occurred when I made a || recording which caused the disc to hit its maximum capacity. Is this || a common fault?) || || Last time this happened the box was infixable and they replaced it. || This time the box is outside it's warranty and I'm being asked for || £65 for the service engineer's visit. || || Does anyone have any advice on how to handle this? I'm reluctant to || to give Sky £65, probably just for the guy to tell me I have to || spend another £199 for a new box. I'm thinking about just buying a || new box from Comets or somewhere. || || Thanks, || || Simon If Simon Ough's suggestion doesn't work, have a look here http://www.hummer.co.uk/sky.htm for intructions on replacing the HD yourself. You can even enter the serial number of the HD in Maxtor's website & you will be told whether the drive is still under warranty - the original Sky+ HDs had are covered for three years. All it will cost you is £1 fior a security screwdriver & £8.18 to return the faulty HD to Maxtor in Ireland. Even if it's not under warranty, a suitable replacement 40Gb HD will cost much less than £65 & would be covered for at least a further 12 months, whereas Sky's warranty would, I think, be only 3 months. |
Simonbr120 wrote:
|| Yes, for the second time since Feb '03 I've lost a full disc of || recordings. And a "System Fault" is preventing me from making new || recordings. || || I spent 10 minutes on the phone to Sky and the only solution is to || have a service engineer visit. || || (I think on both occasions the fault occurred when I made a || recording which caused the disc to hit its maximum capacity. Is this || a common fault?) || || Last time this happened the box was infixable and they replaced it. || This time the box is outside it's warranty and I'm being asked for || £65 for the service engineer's visit. || || Does anyone have any advice on how to handle this? I'm reluctant to || to give Sky £65, probably just for the guy to tell me I have to || spend another £199 for a new box. I'm thinking about just buying a || new box from Comets or somewhere. || || Thanks, || || Simon If Simon Ough's suggestion doesn't work, have a look here http://www.hummer.co.uk/sky.htm for intructions on replacing the HD yourself. You can even enter the serial number of the HD in Maxtor's website & you will be told whether the drive is still under warranty - the original Sky+ HDs had are covered for three years. All it will cost you is £1 fior a security screwdriver & £8.18 to return the faulty HD to Maxtor in Ireland. Even if it's not under warranty, a suitable replacement 40Gb HD will cost much less than £65 & would be covered for at least a further 12 months, whereas Sky's warranty would, I think, be only 3 months. |
"Mark A" wrote in message
... Simon Ough wrote: This will re-format your HDD on the Sky+ box, and will then reboot. You should be fine then! Not if the hard drive has cooked, which is the most common problem with Sky+ boxes. A recent software upgrade has reprogrammed the fan to come on much more often but if the damage has already been done then no amount of cooling will help the drive. Nor, incidentally will full system resets. Try it by all means, but don't be surprised if it belly flops again in a very short space of time. My advice would be to try the reset and if that fails spend the money on a new hard drive and fit it yourself. Any fluid bearing Maxtor 40Gb drive should do. Nah! If that happens, do what I did before I learnt of this "fix" - Phone Sky and tell them you ant to cancel. Got an upgrade from a Zone 1 (45cm) to a Zone 2 (60cm) dish, upgraded LNB (from a Skywave to a Cambridge) and swapped a V1 Sky+ box for a V2. Cost = £0! Call 08702 41 41 41 and tell them you want to cancel because of all the probs you had, and see where it takes you. I thought my earlier fix may have done the trick, that was all. Simon |
"Mark A" wrote in message
... Simon Ough wrote: This will re-format your HDD on the Sky+ box, and will then reboot. You should be fine then! Not if the hard drive has cooked, which is the most common problem with Sky+ boxes. A recent software upgrade has reprogrammed the fan to come on much more often but if the damage has already been done then no amount of cooling will help the drive. Nor, incidentally will full system resets. Try it by all means, but don't be surprised if it belly flops again in a very short space of time. My advice would be to try the reset and if that fails spend the money on a new hard drive and fit it yourself. Any fluid bearing Maxtor 40Gb drive should do. Nah! If that happens, do what I did before I learnt of this "fix" - Phone Sky and tell them you ant to cancel. Got an upgrade from a Zone 1 (45cm) to a Zone 2 (60cm) dish, upgraded LNB (from a Skywave to a Cambridge) and swapped a V1 Sky+ box for a V2. Cost = £0! Call 08702 41 41 41 and tell them you want to cancel because of all the probs you had, and see where it takes you. I thought my earlier fix may have done the trick, that was all. Simon |
Jono wrote:
You can even enter the serial number of the HD in Maxtor's website & you will be told whether the drive is still under warranty When I did this with my original drive from my Sky+ box I was told by Maxtor that they had sold the drive's guarantee to Sky/Pace as part of the OEM deal, and as such they wouldn't replace the drive under any circumstances. Regards Mark |
Jono wrote:
You can even enter the serial number of the HD in Maxtor's website & you will be told whether the drive is still under warranty When I did this with my original drive from my Sky+ box I was told by Maxtor that they had sold the drive's guarantee to Sky/Pace as part of the OEM deal, and as such they wouldn't replace the drive under any circumstances. Regards Mark |
"Poncho & Lefty" wrote in message ... Does anyone have any advice on how to handle this? I'm reluctant to to give Sky £65, probably just for the guy to tell me I have to spend another £199 for a new box. I'm thinking about just buying a new box from Comets or somewhere. I went through 3 boxes during my first year and my current one has now taken me out of the 12 month warranty. From what I know none of the "engineers" actually examine the inside of the box and will replace yours with a reconditioned one - for £65. Perhaps someone else can confrim this and how long the warranty is on the "repair". PS, Dont forget to scream at them for loss of use (and recordings) - I got a free month each time. Just spend £30+£40 on a new hard drive or just Swap one out just to check it out. I have been looking in from time to time. And i keep seeing the term Sky "engineers" From what i have seen and heard these people are Box Swappers Not "engineers" and never will BE. I trained for 4 years not 4 week to be called an "engineer" so come on Guys lets not give them ideas above there Status ! Stan the Man |
"Poncho & Lefty" wrote in message ... Does anyone have any advice on how to handle this? I'm reluctant to to give Sky £65, probably just for the guy to tell me I have to spend another £199 for a new box. I'm thinking about just buying a new box from Comets or somewhere. I went through 3 boxes during my first year and my current one has now taken me out of the 12 month warranty. From what I know none of the "engineers" actually examine the inside of the box and will replace yours with a reconditioned one - for £65. Perhaps someone else can confrim this and how long the warranty is on the "repair". PS, Dont forget to scream at them for loss of use (and recordings) - I got a free month each time. Just spend £30+£40 on a new hard drive or just Swap one out just to check it out. I have been looking in from time to time. And i keep seeing the term Sky "engineers" From what i have seen and heard these people are Box Swappers Not "engineers" and never will BE. I trained for 4 years not 4 week to be called an "engineer" so come on Guys lets not give them ideas above there Status ! Stan the Man |
comets?
"Simonbr120" wrote in message ... Yes, for the second time since Feb '03 I've lost a full disc of recordings. And a "System Fault" is preventing me from making new recordings. I spent 10 minutes on the phone to Sky and the only solution is to have a service engineer visit. (I think on both occasions the fault occurred when I made a recording which caused the disc to hit its maximum capacity. Is this a common fault?) Last time this happened the box was infixable and they replaced it. This time the box is outside it's warranty and I'm being asked for £65 for the service engineer's visit. Does anyone have any advice on how to handle this? I'm reluctant to to give Sky £65, probably just for the guy to tell me I have to spend another £199 for a new box. I'm thinking about just buying a new box from Comets or somewhere. Thanks, Simon |
comets?
"Simonbr120" wrote in message ... Yes, for the second time since Feb '03 I've lost a full disc of recordings. And a "System Fault" is preventing me from making new recordings. I spent 10 minutes on the phone to Sky and the only solution is to have a service engineer visit. (I think on both occasions the fault occurred when I made a recording which caused the disc to hit its maximum capacity. Is this a common fault?) Last time this happened the box was infixable and they replaced it. This time the box is outside it's warranty and I'm being asked for £65 for the service engineer's visit. Does anyone have any advice on how to handle this? I'm reluctant to to give Sky £65, probably just for the guy to tell me I have to spend another £199 for a new box. I'm thinking about just buying a new box from Comets or somewhere. Thanks, Simon |
Simonbr120 wrote:
Yes, for the second time since Feb '03 I've lost a full disc of recordings. And a "System Fault" is preventing me from making new recordings. Last time this happened the box was infixable and they replaced it. This time the box is outside it's warranty and I'm being asked for £65 for the service engineer's visit. Your legal rights extend far beyond any warranty period imposed by Sky. Up to 6 years in fact. Write to Sky informing them the box is clearly not of merchantable quality and not fit for the intended purpose given that is has broken down more than once in barely a year and has already been replaced once. Inform them that they have 14 days to give you a replacement box for free or you will see them in the County Court where you will be looking for a full refund of the purchase cost. You can of course just replace the hard drive for about £30 or indeed buy a brand new unit for between £150 and £199 from the usual places. -- Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these. The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/yvnsy How to get UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73 Fed up with logos / red buttons? : http://logofreetv.org/ BBC gone? : http://www.astra2d.co.uk/ ---- Only the truth as I see it. No monies return'd. ;-) |
Simonbr120 wrote:
Yes, for the second time since Feb '03 I've lost a full disc of recordings. And a "System Fault" is preventing me from making new recordings. Last time this happened the box was infixable and they replaced it. This time the box is outside it's warranty and I'm being asked for £65 for the service engineer's visit. Your legal rights extend far beyond any warranty period imposed by Sky. Up to 6 years in fact. Write to Sky informing them the box is clearly not of merchantable quality and not fit for the intended purpose given that is has broken down more than once in barely a year and has already been replaced once. Inform them that they have 14 days to give you a replacement box for free or you will see them in the County Court where you will be looking for a full refund of the purchase cost. You can of course just replace the hard drive for about £30 or indeed buy a brand new unit for between £150 and £199 from the usual places. -- Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these. The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/yvnsy How to get UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73 Fed up with logos / red buttons? : http://logofreetv.org/ BBC gone? : http://www.astra2d.co.uk/ ---- Only the truth as I see it. No monies return'd. ;-) |
In article [email protected], Stan the Man
wrote: I have been looking in from time to time. And i keep seeing the term Sky "engineers" From what i have seen and heard these people are Box Swappers Not "engineers" and never will BE. I trained for 4 years not 4 week to be called an "engineer" so come on Guys lets not give them ideas above there Status ! Stan the Man Having used the 'Stan the Man' nickname on usenet for over 10 years, I should alert you to the fact that your adoption of it may cause confusion on occasions. Stan Stan the Man +++Naked under this Macintosh+++ |
In article [email protected], Stan the Man
wrote: I have been looking in from time to time. And i keep seeing the term Sky "engineers" From what i have seen and heard these people are Box Swappers Not "engineers" and never will BE. I trained for 4 years not 4 week to be called an "engineer" so come on Guys lets not give them ideas above there Status ! Stan the Man Having used the 'Stan the Man' nickname on usenet for over 10 years, I should alert you to the fact that your adoption of it may cause confusion on occasions. Stan Stan the Man +++Naked under this Macintosh+++ |
Stan The Man wrote:
Having used the 'Stan the Man' nickname on usenet for over 10 years, I should alert you to the fact that your adoption of it may cause confusion on occasions. Stan That gives you nothing, you cannot "reserve" a name, either get used to other people using it, or choose something more unique.. Stan.., |
Stan The Man wrote:
Having used the 'Stan the Man' nickname on usenet for over 10 years, I should alert you to the fact that your adoption of it may cause confusion on occasions. Stan That gives you nothing, you cannot "reserve" a name, either get used to other people using it, or choose something more unique.. Stan.., |
Mark A wrote:
|| Jono wrote: ||| ||| You can even enter the serial number of the HD in Maxtor's website & ||| you will be told whether the drive is still under warranty || || When I did this with my original drive from my Sky+ box I was told by || Maxtor that they had sold the drive's guarantee to Sky/Pace as part || of the OEM deal, and as such they wouldn't replace the drive under || any circumstances. || || Regards || || Mark It worked for me four weeks ago. Have you still got the faulty drive? Try again |
Mark A wrote:
|| Jono wrote: ||| ||| You can even enter the serial number of the HD in Maxtor's website & ||| you will be told whether the drive is still under warranty || || When I did this with my original drive from my Sky+ box I was told by || Maxtor that they had sold the drive's guarantee to Sky/Pace as part || of the OEM deal, and as such they wouldn't replace the drive under || any circumstances. || || Regards || || Mark It worked for me four weeks ago. Have you still got the faulty drive? Try again |
"Another Stan The Man" wrote in message ... Stan The Man wrote: Having used the 'Stan the Man' nickname on usenet for over 10 years, I should alert you to the fact that your adoption of it may cause confusion on occasions. Stan That gives you nothing, you cannot "reserve" a name, either get used to other people using it, or choose something more unique.. Stan.., I have to agree |
"Another Stan The Man" wrote in message ... Stan The Man wrote: Having used the 'Stan the Man' nickname on usenet for over 10 years, I should alert you to the fact that your adoption of it may cause confusion on occasions. Stan That gives you nothing, you cannot "reserve" a name, either get used to other people using it, or choose something more unique.. Stan.., I have to agree |
In article , Another Stan The
Man wrote: Stan The Man wrote: Having used the 'Stan the Man' nickname on usenet for over 10 years, I should alert you to the fact that your adoption of it may cause confusion on occasions. Stan That gives you nothing, you cannot "reserve" a name, either get used to other people using it, or choose something more unique.. Stan.., You're missing the point. It's of no concern to me what anyone chooses to call themselves -- but it would unquestionably be a smart move before choosing a nickname to run a Google Groups search on it to check whether other people with the same nickname could might be posting in the groups you intend to frequent. I know what I've posted so I'm the least likely person to be confused by a thread which appears from the headers to be a monologue with the same person asking and answering the questions. So out of consideration to others it's a good idea to be easily identifiable by your nickname. Of course there's nothing patentable in a nickname. It's just common sense and good netiquette not to choose one that might confuse the natives. Stan Stan the Man +++Naked under this Macintosh+++ |
In article , Another Stan The
Man wrote: Stan The Man wrote: Having used the 'Stan the Man' nickname on usenet for over 10 years, I should alert you to the fact that your adoption of it may cause confusion on occasions. Stan That gives you nothing, you cannot "reserve" a name, either get used to other people using it, or choose something more unique.. Stan.., You're missing the point. It's of no concern to me what anyone chooses to call themselves -- but it would unquestionably be a smart move before choosing a nickname to run a Google Groups search on it to check whether other people with the same nickname could might be posting in the groups you intend to frequent. I know what I've posted so I'm the least likely person to be confused by a thread which appears from the headers to be a monologue with the same person asking and answering the questions. So out of consideration to others it's a good idea to be easily identifiable by your nickname. Of course there's nothing patentable in a nickname. It's just common sense and good netiquette not to choose one that might confuse the natives. Stan Stan the Man +++Naked under this Macintosh+++ |
Having spoken to Sky today I was assured that the £65 would include a
replacement box (not new) with a 3-month warranty. Thanks for the advice. I'm thinking now I'll replace the Hard Drive myself, upgrading to 120Gb in the process. The FULL SYSTEM RESET was tried previously - it was unsuccessful. |
Having spoken to Sky today I was assured that the £65 would include a
replacement box (not new) with a 3-month warranty. Thanks for the advice. I'm thinking now I'll replace the Hard Drive myself, upgrading to 120Gb in the process. The FULL SYSTEM RESET was tried previously - it was unsuccessful. |
"Stan The Man" wrote in message ... In article , Another Stan The Man wrote: Stan The Man wrote: Having used the 'Stan the Man' nickname on usenet for over 10 years, I should alert you to the fact that your adoption of it may cause confusion on occasions. Stan That gives you nothing, you cannot "reserve" a name, either get used to other people using it, or choose something more unique.. Stan.., You're missing the point. It's of no concern to me what anyone chooses to call themselves -- but it would unquestionably be a smart move before choosing a nickname to run a Google Groups search on it to check whether other people with the same nickname could might be posting in the groups you intend to frequent. I know what I've posted so I'm the least likely person to be confused by a thread which appears from the headers to be a monologue with the same person asking and answering the questions. So out of consideration to others it's a good idea to be easily identifiable by your nickname. Of course there's nothing patentable in a nickname. It's just common sense and good netiquette not to choose one that might confuse the natives. Stan Stan the Man +++Naked under this Macintosh+++ Come on no need to Spit the Dummy Out !! I have no desire to offend anybody But i have been using the name for a good few years Now.You must have been on a different plain. As i have never seen your Tag Line Before. No worries i will ponder a new Tag Line. Stan soon to be Gone The Man |
"Stan The Man" wrote in message ... In article , Another Stan The Man wrote: Stan The Man wrote: Having used the 'Stan the Man' nickname on usenet for over 10 years, I should alert you to the fact that your adoption of it may cause confusion on occasions. Stan That gives you nothing, you cannot "reserve" a name, either get used to other people using it, or choose something more unique.. Stan.., You're missing the point. It's of no concern to me what anyone chooses to call themselves -- but it would unquestionably be a smart move before choosing a nickname to run a Google Groups search on it to check whether other people with the same nickname could might be posting in the groups you intend to frequent. I know what I've posted so I'm the least likely person to be confused by a thread which appears from the headers to be a monologue with the same person asking and answering the questions. So out of consideration to others it's a good idea to be easily identifiable by your nickname. Of course there's nothing patentable in a nickname. It's just common sense and good netiquette not to choose one that might confuse the natives. Stan Stan the Man +++Naked under this Macintosh+++ Come on no need to Spit the Dummy Out !! I have no desire to offend anybody But i have been using the name for a good few years Now.You must have been on a different plain. As i have never seen your Tag Line Before. No worries i will ponder a new Tag Line. Stan soon to be Gone The Man |
Simonbr120 wrote:
Having spoken to Sky today I was assured that the £65 would include a replacement box (not new) with a 3-month warranty. You could do much better than this and those pathetic three months do not affect your legal rights. -- Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these. The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/yvnsy How to get UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73 Fed up with logos / red buttons? : http://logofreetv.org/ BBC gone? : http://www.astra2d.co.uk/ ---- Only the truth as I see it. No monies return'd. ;-) |
Simonbr120 wrote:
Having spoken to Sky today I was assured that the £65 would include a replacement box (not new) with a 3-month warranty. You could do much better than this and those pathetic three months do not affect your legal rights. -- Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these. The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/yvnsy How to get UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73 Fed up with logos / red buttons? : http://logofreetv.org/ BBC gone? : http://www.astra2d.co.uk/ ---- Only the truth as I see it. No monies return'd. ;-) |
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