"Nigel Barker" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 12:25:48 +0100, rnet[dot]co[dot]uk
(Simon
Gardner) wrote:

In article ,
Dewi wrote:

Sky is looking for more upmarket subscribers

Duh. They are clearly looking in the wrong place. If you want upmarket
subscribers, the last place you are going to look for them is amongst the
sundry semi-literate and dim readers of the Daily Mail.

I think that you do the Daily Mail a disservice. It has always been the
preferred paper of the lower middle class including all the middle
management
types or more properly the preferred newspaper of their lady wives. The
demographic is similar to the Daily Express. It's a completely different
class
of potential punters for Sky than the Mirror, Sun & Star readers that they
have
previously targeted.

It's not a broadsheet (well not for the last 30 years anyway) & it did
used to
be said that the cushiest job in Fleet Street was ballet correspondent at
the
Daily Mail. However to describe their readers as semi-literate & dim is
quite
incorrect & insulting.

--
Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur

British Newspapers - who reads what

The TIMES is read by people who run the country.

The MIRROR is read by people who think they run the country.

The GUARDIAN is read by people who think they ought to run the country.

The DAILY MAIL is read by the wives of the people who run the country.

The FINANCIAL TIMES is read by people who own the country.

The DAILY EXPRESS is read by people who think the country should be run the
way it used to be.

The DAILY TELEGRAPH is read by people who think the country is run the way
it used to be.

And the SUN is read by people who don't care who the hell runs the country
as long as she has big tits.


PS in the thirties the Mail had details on how you could join the British
Union of fascists

On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 22:07:46 +0200, "Johnny Crod"
uttered:


"Nigel Barker" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 12:25:48 +0100, rnet[dot]co[dot]uk
(Simon
Gardner) wrote:

In article ,
Dewi wrote:

Sky is looking for more upmarket subscribers

Duh. They are clearly looking in the wrong place. If you want upmarket
subscribers, the last place you are going to look for them is amongst the
sundry semi-literate and dim readers of the Daily Mail.

I think that you do the Daily Mail a disservice. It has always been the
preferred paper of the lower middle class including all the middle
management
types or more properly the preferred newspaper of their lady wives. The
demographic is similar to the Daily Express. It's a completely different
class
of potential punters for Sky than the Mirror, Sun & Star readers that they
have
previously targeted.

It's not a broadsheet (well not for the last 30 years anyway) & it did
used to
be said that the cushiest job in Fleet Street was ballet correspondent at
the
Daily Mail. However to describe their readers as semi-literate & dim is
quite
incorrect & insulting.

--
Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur

British Newspapers - who reads what

The TIMES is read by people who run the country.

The MIRROR is read by people who think they run the country.

The GUARDIAN is read by people who think they ought to run the country.

The DAILY MAIL is read by the wives of the people who run the country.

The FINANCIAL TIMES is read by people who own the country.

The DAILY EXPRESS is read by people who think the country should be run the
way it used to be.

The DAILY TELEGRAPH is read by people who think the country is run the way
it used to be.

And the SUN is read by people who don't care who the hell runs the country
as long as she has big tits.


PS in the thirties the Mail had details on how you could join the British
Union of fascists

LOL

Very witty and very good, until the last part :-)

any examples over their life of the other papers , when they might
have in hindsight, shown error in judgment?


--
Dewi,

(remove spin for email)

On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 22:07:46 +0200, "Johnny Crod"
uttered:


"Nigel Barker" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 12:25:48 +0100, rnet[dot]co[dot]uk
(Simon
Gardner) wrote:

In article ,
Dewi wrote:

Sky is looking for more upmarket subscribers

Duh. They are clearly looking in the wrong place. If you want upmarket
subscribers, the last place you are going to look for them is amongst the
sundry semi-literate and dim readers of the Daily Mail.

I think that you do the Daily Mail a disservice. It has always been the
preferred paper of the lower middle class including all the middle
management
types or more properly the preferred newspaper of their lady wives. The
demographic is similar to the Daily Express. It's a completely different
class
of potential punters for Sky than the Mirror, Sun & Star readers that they
have
previously targeted.

It's not a broadsheet (well not for the last 30 years anyway) & it did
used to
be said that the cushiest job in Fleet Street was ballet correspondent at
the
Daily Mail. However to describe their readers as semi-literate & dim is
quite
incorrect & insulting.

--
Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur

British Newspapers - who reads what

The TIMES is read by people who run the country.

The MIRROR is read by people who think they run the country.

The GUARDIAN is read by people who think they ought to run the country.

The DAILY MAIL is read by the wives of the people who run the country.

The FINANCIAL TIMES is read by people who own the country.

The DAILY EXPRESS is read by people who think the country should be run the
way it used to be.

The DAILY TELEGRAPH is read by people who think the country is run the way
it used to be.

And the SUN is read by people who don't care who the hell runs the country
as long as she has big tits.


PS in the thirties the Mail had details on how you could join the British
Union of fascists

LOL

Very witty and very good, until the last part :-)

any examples over their life of the other papers , when they might
have in hindsight, shown error in judgment?


--
Dewi,

(remove spin for email)

In article ,
Nigel Barker wrote:

On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 12:25:48 +0100, rnet[dot]co[dot]uk (Simon
Gardner) wrote:

In article ,
Dewi wrote:

Sky is looking for more upmarket subscribers

Duh. They are clearly looking in the wrong place. If you want upmarket
subscribers, the last place you are going to look for them is amongst the
sundry semi-literate and dim readers of the Daily Mail.

I think that you do the Daily Mail a disservice. It has always been the
preferred paper of the lower middle class including all the middle management
types or more properly the preferred newspaper of their lady wives. The
demographic is similar to the Daily Express. It's a completely different class
of potential punters for Sky than the Mirror, Sun & Star readers that they have
previously targeted.

Interesting pov. The Daily Mail has for many decades been the paper of the
unthinking and dim bigot with nazi tendancies. The archetypal Mail reader
has no sense of humour - unlike (say) Sun readers - and no conscience or
basic human decency - unlike (say) Mirror readers - and not a shred of
original thought in their nasty, narrow little minds. It was a former Mail
scribbler who once said of an ideal Mail story that the typical Mail reader
would always reach the end hating someone or something.

"Upmarket" they ain't. Their abiding and outstanding characteristics are
stupidity and bigotry.

It's not a broadsheet (well not for the last 30 years anyway) & it did used to
be said that the cushiest job in Fleet Street was ballet correspondent at the
Daily Mail. However to describe their readers as semi-literate & dim is quite
incorrect & insulting.

It's certainly insulting but it is exactly on the button.

In article ,
Nigel Barker wrote:

On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 12:25:48 +0100, rnet[dot]co[dot]uk (Simon
Gardner) wrote:

In article ,
Dewi wrote:

Sky is looking for more upmarket subscribers

Duh. They are clearly looking in the wrong place. If you want upmarket
subscribers, the last place you are going to look for them is amongst the
sundry semi-literate and dim readers of the Daily Mail.

I think that you do the Daily Mail a disservice. It has always been the
preferred paper of the lower middle class including all the middle management
types or more properly the preferred newspaper of their lady wives. The
demographic is similar to the Daily Express. It's a completely different class
of potential punters for Sky than the Mirror, Sun & Star readers that they have
previously targeted.

Interesting pov. The Daily Mail has for many decades been the paper of the
unthinking and dim bigot with nazi tendancies. The archetypal Mail reader
has no sense of humour - unlike (say) Sun readers - and no conscience or
basic human decency - unlike (say) Mirror readers - and not a shred of
original thought in their nasty, narrow little minds. It was a former Mail
scribbler who once said of an ideal Mail story that the typical Mail reader
would always reach the end hating someone or something.

"Upmarket" they ain't. Their abiding and outstanding characteristics are
stupidity and bigotry.

It's not a broadsheet (well not for the last 30 years anyway) & it did used to
be said that the cushiest job in Fleet Street was ballet correspondent at the
Daily Mail. However to describe their readers as semi-literate & dim is quite
incorrect & insulting.

It's certainly insulting but it is exactly on the button.

"Dewi" wrote in message
...

He is not a very happy 'thing'

From an other group, I have come across him, he also has a chip on his
shoulder so big he can't see the way anymore :-)

Probably a wet socialist.


Yes, the Mail's about the only national daring enough to have a pop at Bliar
and his cronies.

He's obviously a leftie.

"Dewi" wrote in message
...

He is not a very happy 'thing'

From an other group, I have come across him, he also has a chip on his
shoulder so big he can't see the way anymore :-)

Probably a wet socialist.


Yes, the Mail's about the only national daring enough to have a pop at Bliar
and his cronies.

He's obviously a leftie.

"Simon Gardner" [dot]co[dot]uk wrote in message
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whingeing leftie claptrap snipped

The Mail's phenomenal circulation growth in recent years (it's second only
to The Sun amongst daily nationals) is attributable to it striking a chord
with your man in the street.

Hence it attacks speed cameras as being revenue generators, single mums who
shag, shag and then, for good measure, shag some more simply to screw the
State, Bliar for his hypocrisy on just about everything (WMD ready for
launch in 45 minutes? Yes you can have a referendum on joining the EU? etc
etc) and the compensation culture engulfing this wretched island (oh, you
burnt your mouth on a burger? Have £500,000).

Carry on reading Pravda Simon. You probably reckon Alistair Campbell should
be knighted.

"Simon Gardner" [dot]co[dot]uk wrote in message
...

whingeing leftie claptrap snipped

The Mail's phenomenal circulation growth in recent years (it's second only
to The Sun amongst daily nationals) is attributable to it striking a chord
with your man in the street.

Hence it attacks speed cameras as being revenue generators, single mums who
shag, shag and then, for good measure, shag some more simply to screw the
State, Bliar for his hypocrisy on just about everything (WMD ready for
launch in 45 minutes? Yes you can have a referendum on joining the EU? etc
etc) and the compensation culture engulfing this wretched island (oh, you
burnt your mouth on a burger? Have £500,000).

Carry on reading Pravda Simon. You probably reckon Alistair Campbell should
be knighted.

"Glenn Banwell" wrote in message
...

"Simon Gardner" [dot]co[dot]uk wrote in message
...

whingeing leftie claptrap snipped

The Mail's phenomenal circulation growth in recent years (it's second only
to The Sun amongst daily nationals) is attributable to it striking a chord
with your man in the street.

Hence it attacks speed cameras as being revenue generators, single mums
who
shag, shag and then, for good measure, shag some more simply to screw the
State, Bliar for his hypocrisy on just about everything (WMD ready for
launch in 45 minutes? Yes you can have a referendum on joining the EU? etc
etc) and the compensation culture engulfing this wretched island (oh, you
burnt your mouth on a burger? Have £500,000).

Carry on reading Pravda Simon. You probably reckon Alistair Campbell
should
be knighted.


It strikes a chord with anyone who pays higher rate tax, or would like too,
and doesn't give a **** about anyone but themselves. Even the sports
writers are Fascists! Simon's comments are so accurate I shall be keeping a
copy for future reference. We all know the Sun is crap, but sometimes we
like reading a paper which is crap. Most of us know the Daily Mail is crap,
but its readers think its balanced informed journalism! Alistair Campbell
should be knighted.