Home cinema - Going from Sky to NTL

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Dom Robinson wrote:
|| My sister has the Sky Family Pack and Disney, but no landline (her
|| 12-month minimum subs was completed at a previous address) and just
|| uses her mobile to make calls.
||
|| However, she's looking to get the equivalent package on NTL and use
|| their phone system for calls to landlines so has worked out that
|| overall it'll be cheaper.
||
|| I've no experience of NTL's quality of service over the digital TV
|| side of things, and until the competition is opened up for line
|| rental in the coming months, BT want to charge £10.50/month for
|| that, and despite there being an old socket in an upstairs bedroom,
|| BT wanted to charge nearly £100 for putting one in downstairs when
|| they reconnect.
||
|| Occasionally BT have cheap "reconnect to BT" offers, and when I did
|| it 5.5 years ago I only paid £10 for the whole thing, plus the usual
|| line rental of course.
||
|| All opinions welcome. TIA,
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BT will charge to install an extension, or move a master socket. However, if
there is NO socket in the house, perhaps even the wire down the wall is
missing, they will have to install a new one under the free reconnection
offer (This assumes BT have provided service previously at the address). The
engineer would usually ask where you want the master socket.

With regards to the TV, your sister will receive a second (third, fourth,
fifth) hand box from NTL.

Dom Robinson wrote:

||
|| She'll keep the Sky box to one side so if it turns out to be crap
|| she can go back to that.
|| --
||

Just bear in mind that she will be contractually obliged to keep phone /AND/
TV for 12 months - each service carries a minimum term

Dom Robinson wrote:

|| They really twist the reconnection offer any way they want to, don't
|| they?
||

How so? If the wiring's intact, they re-activate it FOC, if any wiring needs
repairing, or replacing, this is also done FOC. If, on the other hand, a
customer wants something moving, or something in addition to the original
wiring, then a charge is made.

|| Of course, if she didn't spend so much time on the phone...
||
|| What is it about women that make them need to chatter incessantly
|| about absolutely **** all? Silence is golden.

Perhaps the same thing that draws others to newsgroups ;-)

Dom Robinson wrote:

|| My sister has a socket still in an upstairs bedroom, not that it's
|| in use or connected to BT any more. However, whether a new master
|| socket can be installed downstairs for free is down to whether
|| there's still a cable going to the house from the pole.
||
|| If there isn't, then it's all free. If there is, even though this
|| means less work overall, then they'll charge £100 for the privilidge
|| of a new socket.

If any part of the wiring is missing, then it is repaired FOC: pole to wall
eye; wall eye to entry point; entry point to socket.

Why not just remove the socket upstairs and make sure the wire doesn't enter
the property?

On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 21:52:11 -0000, "Individual.NET"
wrote:
Ok- done the calcs its £5 a month cheaper on NTL compared with sky/bt

£60 a year in my pocket not in rupes.
Add in BB at £25 on ntl cf Bt's which was £27 when I subscribed (and
really BTyahoo is the comparable package so another £5 a month

Total savings £120

QED as my math teacher used to say
Deano

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SKY

sky world =£40
Prem plus on sky = £25 (£2.00 a month-must be paid up front)
BTtogether = 11.50

TOTAL = £53.50

NTL

Family pack sport and movies = 47.50
Prem plus= £1.00
line rental= 0

Total = £48.50

"deano" wrote in message
.. .
My thoughts

I have left sky to go to ntl almost a year ago

benefits are

1) No red dot (no interactive crap either- player cam pah)
2) Its cheaper BT+ Sky much dearer than NTL for TV and phone

Not sure why you think that it is MUCH cheaper - not according to my
calculations (assuming you use OneTel or the like for all your calls, and
only pay BT for the line). I am on the Family pack with NTL, and comparing
that with BT + Sky seem very much the same as far as price is concerned.

BTW, I am on my way in the other direction due to a house move to an area
not covered by NTL, so may still live to regret my comments...

3) Much cheaper if you want PPV footy - only £1.00 a month !!!
4) Bundle in Broadband and you have everthing in one package at a good
price
5) customer service ok - but they shrugged shoulders at my windows
probs when first set up on BB
6) the channel order can be customised to suit the viewer so as you
scan the channels you see the ones you want - much better than sky
7) EPG for listings is poor compared to sky- so you can use the sky
box you already have
8) few channels not on ntl - only one I miss is fox news- no nazi news
fix for me

On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 22:22:51 -0000, Dom Robinson
wrote:

My sister has the Sky Family Pack and Disney, but no landline (her
12-month
minimum subs was completed at a previous address) and just uses her
mobile to
make calls.

However, she's looking to get the equivalent package on NTL and use their
phone system for calls to landlines so has worked out that overall it'll
be
cheaper.

I've no experience of NTL's quality of service over the digital TV side
of
things, and until the competition is opened up for line rental in the
coming
months, BT want to charge £10.50/month for that, and despite there being
an
old socket in an upstairs bedroom, BT wanted to charge nearly £100 for
putting
one in downstairs when they reconnect.

Occasionally BT have cheap "reconnect to BT" offers, and when I did it
5.5
years ago I only paid £10 for the whole thing, plus the usual line rental
of
course.

All opinions welcome. TIA,