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sjc March 13th 04 06:45 PM

Recording Sky + to DVD R....help needed please
 
Dear All,

Please can someone tell me what I need to copy sky + recordings into my PC
then process them and write to DVD using PC DVD recorder.

I assume I will need some card in PC to capture program ie, Scart from Sky +
to scart to PC ??

Suitable software to create and edit recording , ie cut out all adverts etc.

Then finally convert finished work to suitable file say avi ? then copy to
DVD with say NERO ??

Does anyone know exactly what equipment / hardware I need and also what
software for PC ??

I also have a lot of Camcorder recordings on VHS tape which I want to get
onto DVD for safe keeping, I guess the same procedure would apply for the
Sky + coping ??

Any help Guys would be appreciated.....





Nigel Barker March 13th 04 07:21 PM

On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 17:45:24 -0000, "sjc" wrote:

Dear All,

Please can someone tell me what I need to copy sky + recordings into my PC
then process them and write to DVD using PC DVD recorder.

I assume I will need some card in PC to capture program ie, Scart from Sky +
to scart to PC ??

Suitable software to create and edit recording , ie cut out all adverts etc.

Then finally convert finished work to suitable file say avi ? then copy to
DVD with say NERO ??

Does anyone know exactly what equipment / hardware I need and also what
software for PC ??

I also have a lot of Camcorder recordings on VHS tape which I want to get
onto DVD for safe keeping, I guess the same procedure would apply for the
Sky + coping ??


The Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 is excellent for the money. Check out www.shspvr.com
& the forums at www.shspvr.com/forum for all information regarding this card.

The major bummer is that from the Sky+ you need to replay the show that you want
record so it takes time.

--
Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur

sjc March 13th 04 08:17 PM

Thanks Nigel for the information.

Have you got this device......how do you rate it etc ??

Rgds

Steve

"Nigel Barker" wrote in message
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On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 17:45:24 -0000, "sjc" wrote:

Dear All,

Please can someone tell me what I need to copy sky + recordings into my

PC
then process them and write to DVD using PC DVD recorder.

I assume I will need some card in PC to capture program ie, Scart from

Sky +
to scart to PC ??

Suitable software to create and edit recording , ie cut out all adverts

etc.

Then finally convert finished work to suitable file say avi ? then copy

to
DVD with say NERO ??

Does anyone know exactly what equipment / hardware I need and also what
software for PC ??

I also have a lot of Camcorder recordings on VHS tape which I want to get
onto DVD for safe keeping, I guess the same procedure would apply for the
Sky + coping ??


The Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 is excellent for the money. Check out

www.shspvr.com
& the forums at www.shspvr.com/forum for all information regarding this

card.

The major bummer is that from the Sky+ you need to replay the show that

you want
record so it takes time.

--
Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur




Jomtien March 14th 04 08:22 AM

sjc wrote:

I assume I will need some card in PC to capture program ie, Scart from Sky +
to scart to PC ??


You need a video capture card but AFAIK these don't exist with scart
nor do any support RGB capture. There are USB capture boxes with scart
but not RGB, AFAIK. You can use the S-Video output from your Sky+ and
this will give the best quality available to you.


Suitable software to create and edit recording , ie cut out all adverts etc.


The Womble MPEGVCR is probably best for this, assuming that your video
capture card provides MPEG1 or 2.


Then finally convert finished work to suitable file say avi ?


AVI (or more precisely MPEG4) will be suitable for playback on a PC or
some very recent set top DVD players only. I personally would take the
MPEG2 output from Womble and use something like DVDLab to turn it into
a proper DVD that will play on any PC or set top DVD player.

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/yvnsy
How to get UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
Fed up with logos / red buttons? : http://logofreetv.org/
BBC gone? : http://www.astra2d.co.uk/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

Nigel Barker March 14th 04 10:43 AM

On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 19:17:18 -0000, "sjc" wrote:

Thanks Nigel for the information.

Have you got this device......how do you rate it etc ??


Yes, I do own a Hauppauge WinTV PVR-250 & think that it does a good job. I've
never used any other TV or capture card though so my opinions are a bit
coloured:-)

--
Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur

Nigel Barker March 14th 04 10:47 AM

On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 07:22:19 GMT, Jomtien wrote:

Suitable software to create and edit recording , ie cut out all adverts etc.


The Womble MPEGVCR is probably best for this, assuming that your video
capture card provides MPEG1 or 2.


There is a great new MPEG editor that everyone seems to be recommending now it's
called VideoReDo www.videoredo.com It looks great, works well, has very
responsive support & is cheaper than Womble. There is a full function
time-limited trial version available for download.

--
Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur

Jomtien March 15th 04 07:18 AM

Nigel Barker wrote:

There is a great new MPEG editor that everyone seems to be recommending now it's
called VideoReDo www.videoredo.com It looks great, works well, has very
responsive support & is cheaper than Womble. There is a full function
time-limited trial version available for download.


I'll give that a try. One advantage of Womble for me is the built-in
GOP error correction and audio bitrate adjustment and the way that it
outputs rock-solid MPEG with no glitches. Other programmes that I have
tried can't seem to do any of that.

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/yvnsy
How to get UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
Fed up with logos / red buttons? : http://logofreetv.org/
BBC gone? : http://www.astra2d.co.uk/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

Simon Dean March 15th 04 02:24 PM


There is a great new MPEG editor that everyone seems to be recommending now it's
called VideoReDo www.videoredo.com It looks great, works well, has very
responsive support & is cheaper than Womble. There is a full function
time-limited trial version available for download.



I'll give that a try. One advantage of Womble for me is the built-in
GOP error correction and audio bitrate adjustment and the way that it
outputs rock-solid MPEG with no glitches. Other programmes that I have
tried can't seem to do any of that.


I would personally recommend VideoReDo over Womble... For two
considerations only. 1, VideoReDo is cheaper. 2, if you own a Hauppauge
PVR 250 and copy from a poor VCR, you may get some dropped video frames.

When you run this file through say TMPGEnc, it will scan the video
sequentially, and of then, because of missing video frames, the video
occurs ahead of the audio and lip-sync occurs.

VideoReDo apparently, will detect missing video frames, and fix the MPEG
by removing an audio frame. The result is a rock steady MPEG, and as for
the missing audio frames? I can't notice them. So VideoReDo scores big
time for me as an owner of the PVR 250.

I've never had Womble fix this situation for me.

Cya
Simon

Chelsea Fan March 15th 04 08:56 PM

On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 17:45:24 -0000, "sjc"
wrote:

Dear All,

Please can someone tell me what I need to copy sky + recordings into my PC
then process them and write to DVD using PC DVD recorder.

I assume I will need some card in PC to capture program ie, Scart from Sky +
to scart to PC ??

Suitable software to create and edit recording , ie cut out all adverts etc.

Then finally convert finished work to suitable file say avi ? then copy to
DVD with say NERO ??

Does anyone know exactly what equipment / hardware I need and also what
software for PC ??

I also have a lot of Camcorder recordings on VHS tape which I want to get
onto DVD for safe keeping, I guess the same procedure would apply for the
Sky + coping ??

Any help Guys would be appreciated.....




I Record onto DVD-R's from the Sky box then use smart ripper to
transfer the files to the PC, divx to encode them and then TMPENGC to
cut out the bits I dont want,

It's a bit time consumeing, but the end product is cool.....


Jomtien March 16th 04 07:45 AM

Jomtien wrote:

There is a great new MPEG editor that everyone seems to be recommending now it's
called VideoReDo www.videoredo.com It looks great, works well, has very
responsive support & is cheaper than Womble. There is a full function
time-limited trial version available for download.


I'll give that a try. One advantage of Womble for me is the built-in
GOP error correction and audio bitrate adjustment and the way that it
outputs rock-solid MPEG with no glitches. Other programmes that I have
tried can't seem to do any of that.


It seems that VideoRedo has no GOP error correction or other such
functions.

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/yvnsy
How to get UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
Fed up with logos / red buttons? : http://logofreetv.org/
BBC gone? : http://www.astra2d.co.uk/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)


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