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Nick February 3rd 04 04:36 PM

£46 for a card that was free
 
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tegory=29 784



Jomtien February 4th 04 07:35 AM

Nick wrote:

£46 for a card that was free


That's cheap. I've seen them go for £70.

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Cacique February 4th 04 01:31 PM



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"Jomtien" wrote in message
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Nick wrote:

£46 for a card that was free


That's cheap. I've seen them go for £70.



This one is cheaper :
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=3075676 214



Simon Kempster February 5th 04 09:31 AM

£46 for a card that was free

That's cheap. I've seen them go for £70.

This one is cheaper :
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=3075676 214


....and they've both been removed.

Simon Kempster

Jomtien February 6th 04 09:57 AM

wrote:

...and they've both been removed.


Why did ebay remove them both then?


All Sky cards belong to Sky and so may not be traded by anyone else.
Sky do monitor Ebay from time to time for precisely this reason.

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ:
http://tinyurl.com/tez5
How to get UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
Fed up with logos / red buttons? : http://logofreetv.org/
BBC gone? : http://www.astra2d.co.uk/
----
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No monies return'd. ;-)

Nigel Barker February 6th 04 03:44 PM

On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 08:57:40 GMT, Jomtien wrote:

wrote:

...and they've both been removed.


Why did ebay remove them both then?


All Sky cards belong to Sky and so may not be traded by anyone else.
Sky do monitor Ebay from time to time for precisely this reason.


It's actually debatable whether they own the cards. The BBC Free TV line
certainly gave them away on request & no form of contract was entered into.
Those who have paid 23.50 from the now defunct www.freetoview.com may have some
contract with Sky.

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Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur

Jomtien February 7th 04 08:22 AM

Nigel Barker wrote:

All Sky cards belong to Sky and so may not be traded by anyone else.
Sky do monitor Ebay from time to time for precisely this reason.


It's actually debatable whether they own the cards. The BBC Free TV line
certainly gave them away on request & no form of contract was entered into.


I don't think that this is debatable at all. The cards quite clearly
belong to Sky. It is written on the back of every single one of them.
Whether payment (which is always for the privilege of viewing, never
for the card itself) has been made or not is neither here nor there.

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/tez5
How to get UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
Fed up with logos / red buttons? : http://logofreetv.org/
BBC gone? : http://www.astra2d.co.uk/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

Nigel Barker February 7th 04 04:02 PM

On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 07:22:26 GMT, Jomtien wrote:

Nigel Barker wrote:

All Sky cards belong to Sky and so may not be traded by anyone else.
Sky do monitor Ebay from time to time for precisely this reason.


It's actually debatable whether they own the cards. The BBC Free TV line
certainly gave them away on request & no form of contract was entered into.


I don't think that this is debatable at all. The cards quite clearly
belong to Sky. It is written on the back of every single one of them.
Whether payment (which is always for the privilege of viewing, never
for the card itself) has been made or not is neither here nor there.


Of course it's debatable. In fact haven't we debated this before? Let's debate
it again:-)

When you take out a subscription with BSkyB you enter into a contract with them
& you actually sign that contract & pay them. Part of that contract is that the
card is theirs. Fair enough I agree you have accepted their conditions when you
sign the contract

When I called up the FTV line they acting as the agents of the BBC sent me a FTV
card without any cost to me or me entering into any contract with the BBC or
BSkyB. I was surprised at the time that the card was identical to any other SKy
subscription card & was not a special BBC card.. There is small print on the
back saying that it remains the property of Sky Subscription Services. However I
don't believe that this has any validity at all. Just because I write my name on
a banknote before I give it to you doesn't mean that I can request it back at a
later date. The FTV phone line as an agent of the BBC provided me with a card
free & clear.

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Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur

Jomtien February 8th 04 08:33 AM

Nigel Barker wrote:

There is small print on the
back saying that it remains the property of Sky Subscription Services. However I
don't believe that this has any validity at all. Just because I write my name on
a banknote before I give it to you doesn't mean that I can request it back at a
later date.


Bank notes belong to the Crown, not to the person holding the note.
Sky cards belong to Sky. There is no way around this.

The same principle applies to your bank card and your passport.

You have temporary use of these items but you never own them.

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/tez5
How to get UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
Fed up with logos / red buttons? : http://logofreetv.org/
BBC gone? : http://www.astra2d.co.uk/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)


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