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Cheddar January 26th 04 11:08 AM

Just got Sky+ - lots of questions
 
I just got Sky+ installed and have all day to play around
with it. Can anyone help me out with some questions I have.

1. I dont seem to have a Sky card anymore, I cant see my old
card in the digibox, is this normal?

2. How do I know what version box I have? Mine is silver
with a black middle section. I used the £100 offer last
month to get Sky+.

3. What is the latest software version? I currently have
1.3.0, and it doesnt allow me to record two shows that
clash. Will a forced upgraded fix this?

4. The series link feature has me confused. If I setup a
link for 'enterprise', will it record next weeks show as
well or will it record the next showing of enterprise which
knowing Sky will be a repeat.

5. I noticed that a 1 hour show takes up 6%, that's only
16hrs of recording time! What happens when I run out of
space and I have a show to record? Will Sky+ just delete the
oldest show like a Tivo does?

6. Why cant you search for a show by inputting it's name?
This is one of the best features of the Tivo, why haven't
Sky done this?

7. What happens if I am recording two shows at once and
someone trys to change channels? Will a message appear
warning them that I am recording a program?

8. I currently have my Tivo unplugged, is anyone using their
Tivo with Sky+?

Thanks.



Jono January 26th 04 12:34 PM

Cheddar wrote:
|| I just got Sky+ installed and have all day to play around
|| with it. Can anyone help me out with some questions I have.
||
|| 1. I dont seem to have a Sky card anymore, I cant see my old
|| card in the digibox, is this normal?

Open the flap - if you look in the middle of the black centre piece, over on
the right of it, there's the word "push"

||
|| 2. How do I know what version box I have? Mine is silver
|| with a black middle section. I used the £100 offer last
|| month to get Sky+.

V1 has the black middle section

||
|| 3. What is the latest software version? I currently have
|| 1.3.0, and it doesnt allow me to record two shows that
|| clash. Will a forced upgraded fix this?

Are you saying Dual Record doesn't work? The version on my V1 box is 1.3.0BF
& the EPG version is sky+1.26.v2

||
|| 4. The series link feature has me confused. If I setup a
|| link for 'enterprise', will it record next weeks show as
|| well or will it record the next showing of enterprise which
|| knowing Sky will be a repeat.
||

Should do next week's

|| 5. I noticed that a 1 hour show takes up 6%, that's only
|| 16hrs of recording time! What happens when I run out of
|| space and I have a show to record? Will Sky+ just delete the
|| oldest show like a Tivo does?
||

It depends on a number of things - whether you've "Kept" the recordings with
the blue button; whether you've got the disk management set to
automatic.....

|| 6. Why cant you search for a show by inputting it's name?
|| This is one of the best features of the Tivo, why haven't
|| Sky done this?
||
|| 7. What happens if I am recording two shows at once and
|| someone trys to change channels? Will a message appear
|| warning them that I am recording a program?

You are offered the choice to cancel one of the recordings to view the new
channel

||
|| 8. I currently have my Tivo unplugged, is anyone using their
|| Tivo with Sky+?

Many use a Tivo - the general advice seems to be "Don't get rid of it"

||
|| Thanks.



Cheddar January 26th 04 01:48 PM

Jono wrote:
Are you saying Dual Record doesn't work? The version on my

V1 box is
1.3.0BF & the EPG version is sky+1.26.v2


I had to do a forced update to get it to work, all seems
fine now.

5. I noticed that a 1 hour show takes up 6%, that's only
16hrs of recording time! What happens when I run out of
space and I have a show to record? Will Sky+ just delete

the
oldest show like a Tivo does?


It depends on a number of things - whether you've "Kept"

the
recordings with the blue button; whether you've got the

disk
management set to automatic.....


Whats the difference between automatic and manual, i'd
rather Sky didnt start deleting the shows I have recorded
and aint got around to.

8. I currently have my Tivo unplugged, is anyone using

their
Tivo with Sky+?


Many use a Tivo - the general advice seems to be "Don't

get rid of it"

Well as it stands I think I will get rid of the Tivo and
just add a bigger HD to Sky+.

Anyone want a 1yr old Tivo in great condition. boxed (no
lifetime sub), only £160 inc p+p.



Mark A January 26th 04 02:52 PM

Cheddar wrote:

Well as it stands I think I will get rid of the Tivo and
just add a bigger HD to Sky+.


Wouldn't recommend getting a larger HD for Sky+ at the moment. There is
a subtle bug in the latest firmware that can cause problems with items
recorded in the beyond 40Gb region, especially if the box is rebooted
after, say, a power cut. It's known as the '17 min' bug and is well
documented.

It's anyone's guess if Sky are even bothering to try and fix it seeing
as it mainly afflicts non-standard drives.

Regards

Mark

Sean Black January 26th 04 03:03 PM

In article , Cheddar
writes
4. The series link feature has me confused. If I setup a
link for 'enterprise', will it record next weeks show as
well or will it record the next showing of enterprise which
knowing Sky will be a repeat.


Should just record the new ep.

5. I noticed that a 1 hour show takes up 6%, that's only
16hrs of recording time! What happens when I run out of
space and I have a show to record? Will Sky+ just delete the
oldest show like a Tivo does?

I think it will delete the oldest recording not marked keep.

6. Why cant you search for a show by inputting it's name?
This is one of the best features of the Tivo, why haven't
Sky done this?

It's a real pain isn't it? Either scroll through pages and pages of the
EPG, or scroll through pages and pages of the A-Z listings.

7. What happens if I am recording two shows at once and
someone trys to change channels? Will a message appear
warning them that I am recording a program?

8. I currently have my Tivo unplugged, is anyone using their
Tivo with Sky+?


I use my TiVo with Sky+, one of the reasons is illustrated in your
point 6. I find Sky+ great for recording something on another channel or
DD movies, apart from that I almost exclusively use my Tivo.
--
Sean Black

Cheddar January 26th 04 03:44 PM

Sean Black wrote:
6. Why cant you search for a show by inputting it's name?
This is one of the best features of the Tivo, why haven't
Sky done this?

It's a real pain isn't it? Either scroll through pages and

pages of
the EPG, or scroll through pages and pages of the A-Z

listings.

I cant understand why Sky haven't implemented a feature like
this. I know the company behind the tivo have patented a lot
of their interface but surely Sky can find a better way of
searching for shows than what it has currently.

8. I currently have my Tivo unplugged, is anyone using

their
Tivo with Sky+?


I use my TiVo with Sky+, one of the reasons is

illustrated in your
point 6. I find Sky+ great for recording something on

another channel
or DD movies, apart from that I almost exclusively use my

Tivo.

Well i've just cancelled my Tivo subscription and plan on
selling it over the next few days. I would have loved to
keep it but I cant stand paying £10 a month for the EPG.

It's still by far the best piece of kit I have ever
purchased though, it's a disgrace that it hasnt caught on in
the UK. I'd love to see a all in one Tivo with Sky built in
and a DVD-Recorded, now that would be very cool.

I've got a few more questions regarding Sky+

Do season links carry over onto the next season like they do
with the Tivo?

Is Sky+ always recording like the Tivo is? With the Tivo I
could just rewind the last 30 minutes of any show, will Sky+
do this?

Thanks.



Cheddar January 26th 04 03:45 PM

Mark A wrote:
Cheddar wrote:

Well as it stands I think I will get rid of the Tivo and
just add a bigger HD to Sky+.


Wouldn't recommend getting a larger HD for Sky+ at the

moment. There
is a subtle bug in the latest firmware that can cause

problems with
items recorded in the beyond 40Gb region, especially if

the box is
rebooted after, say, a power cut. It's known as the '17

min' bug and
is well documented.

It's anyone's guess if Sky are even bothering to try and

fix it seeing
as it mainly afflicts non-standard drives.


Well that's a major pain :-(

16hrs isnt really that long recording time if you go on
holiday for a week or so. It's a shame that you cant knock
down the quality of the recording to save space like the
Tivo can.



Mark A January 26th 04 04:48 PM

Cheddar wrote:

Is Sky+ always recording like the Tivo is? With the Tivo I
could just rewind the last 30 minutes of any show, will Sky+
do this?


You can set the length of instant rewind from 'none' to an hour, I
believe. So the short answer is yes. You can also save it to the hard
disc as a named file, should the fancy take you.

Regards

Mark

Mark A January 26th 04 04:51 PM

Cheddar wrote:

16hrs isnt really that long recording time if you go on holiday for a
week or so.


As the recording rate is variable it all depends on what you're
recording as to how long you get. Sky claim an average 20 hrs or so, I
think, for a standard drive.

Regards

Mark

Sean Black January 26th 04 05:03 PM

In article , Cheddar
writes
Sean Black wrote:
6. Why cant you search for a show by inputting it's name?
This is one of the best features of the Tivo, why haven't
Sky done this?

It's a real pain isn't it? Either scroll through pages and

pages of
the EPG, or scroll through pages and pages of the A-Z

listings.

I cant understand why Sky haven't implemented a feature like
this. I know the company behind the tivo have patented a lot
of their interface but surely Sky can find a better way of
searching for shows than what it has currently.

8. I currently have my Tivo unplugged, is anyone using

their
Tivo with Sky+?


I use my TiVo with Sky+, one of the reasons is

illustrated in your
point 6. I find Sky+ great for recording something on

another channel
or DD movies, apart from that I almost exclusively use my

Tivo.

Well i've just cancelled my Tivo subscription and plan on
selling it over the next few days. I would have loved to
keep it but I cant stand paying £10 a month for the EPG.

Still got to be worth a lifetime sub if you can afford it. If not you
should get a decent price for it on Ebay.

It's still by far the best piece of kit I have ever
purchased though, it's a disgrace that it hasnt caught on in
the UK.


Yep, if only Tivo had got the same sort of advertising as Sky+.

I'd love to see a all in one Tivo with Sky built in
and a DVD-Recorded, now that would be very cool.

That would be just about perfect.

I've got a few more questions regarding Sky+

Do season links carry over onto the next season like they do
with the Tivo?


Not sure, but I think I read somewhere that if a show missed a week and
then the season link got lost. This may have been sorted out by now.
I've had no direct experience one way or another with it as yet so I
can't say for sure.

Is Sky+ always recording like the Tivo is? With the Tivo I
could just rewind the last 30 minutes of any show, will Sky+
do this?

Yes it is.

Thanks.



--
Sean Black


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