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Snowblinded Sky+
During the New Year's eve snow storms I lost the signal from my dish.
No problem, I thought - we can watch some of those pre-recorded progs on the disk, but no such luck! It seems that when you lose the satellite signal, Sky+ doesn't allow you to view pre-recorded programmes either! I can't see that there's any technical reason why this should be so. Checking my terms of contract I couldn't see any mention of this, it just seems that Sky have gone a bit overboard in curtailing use of the system under natural circumstances which prevent reception. TH |
same here caused it crash out totally had to reset in the morning
"Tony H" wrote in message ... During the New Year's eve snow storms I lost the signal from my dish. No problem, I thought - we can watch some of those pre-recorded progs on the disk, but no such luck! It seems that when you lose the satellite signal, Sky+ doesn't allow you to view pre-recorded programmes either! I can't see that there's any technical reason why this should be so. Checking my terms of contract I couldn't see any mention of this, it just seems that Sky have gone a bit overboard in curtailing use of the system under natural circumstances which prevent reception. TH |
"Tony H" wrote in message ... During the New Year's eve snow storms I lost the signal from my dish. No problem, I thought - we can watch some of those pre-recorded progs on the disk, but no such luck! It seems that when you lose the satellite signal, Sky+ doesn't allow you to view pre-recorded programmes either! I can't see that there's any technical reason why this should be so. Checking my terms of contract I couldn't see any mention of this, it just seems that Sky have gone a bit overboard in curtailing use of the system under natural circumstances which prevent reception. TH I believe its so you don't take your box around to your mates who don't have sky in order to watch the recorded progs. Having said that, I lost the signal in heavy rain the other day, but was still able to watvh recordings, although I think it was coincidence that by the time I'd started playing back the recording, the signal was back enough for the box to play. |
"Tony H" wrote in message ... During the New Year's eve snow storms I lost the signal from my dish. No problem, I thought - we can watch some of those pre-recorded progs on the disk, but no such luck! It seems that when you lose the satellite signal, Sky+ doesn't allow you to view pre-recorded programmes either! I can't see that there's any technical reason why this should be so. Well there is :-) -- Tumbleweed Remove theobvious before replying (but no email reply necessary to newsgroups) |
It is not just a question of if you lose the link to the satellite the box
loses its link to the epg so is unable to display properly? |
"j*" [email protected] wrote in message ... same here caused it crash out totally had to reset in the morning "Tony H" wrote in message ... During the New Year's eve snow storms I lost the signal from my dish. No problem, I thought - we can watch some of those pre-recorded progs on the disk, but no such luck! It seems that when you lose the satellite signal, Sky+ doesn't allow you to view pre-recorded programmes either! Anything with SKY printed on it normally has a catch to it. Same thing happened here but a quick brush of the dish to get settled snow off cured (Damn things are too small) I did have a laugh though watching Most Haunted live...People were phoning/texting/E-Mailing in to the show saying the weirdest things were happening like their TV channels going off :-) |
red6000 wrote:
I believe its so you don't take your box around to your mates who don't have sky in order to watch the recorded progs. And why shouldn't you be able to do that? You've paid for them. Does your DVD rental shop attach a GPS device to each DVD rented in order to stop you viewing at a friend's house? Of course not. -- Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these. The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/tez5 How to get UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73 Fed up with logos / red buttons? : http://logofreetv.org/ BBC gone? : http://www.astra2d.co.uk/ ---- Only the truth as I see it. No monies return'd. ;-) |
Tony H wrote:
It seems that when you lose the satellite signal, Sky+ doesn't allow you to view pre-recorded programmes either! Indeed. I can't see that there's any technical reason why this should be so. The technical reason is that the viewing card uses the live signal to authorise decoding. This isn't a valid reason of course. -- Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these. The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/tez5 How to get UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73 Fed up with logos / red buttons? : http://logofreetv.org/ BBC gone? : http://www.astra2d.co.uk/ ---- Only the truth as I see it. No monies return'd. ;-) |
Henry wrote:
It is not just a question of if you lose the link to the satellite the box loses its link to the epg so is unable to display properly? No. The Sky+ is perfectly capable of playing back recordings without a satellite signal or EPG. However it has been deliberately slugged to make this impossible. -- Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these. The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/tez5 How to get UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73 Fed up with logos / red buttons? : http://logofreetv.org/ BBC gone? : http://www.astra2d.co.uk/ ---- Only the truth as I see it. No monies return'd. ;-) |
"Jomtien" wrote in message ... red6000 wrote: I believe its so you don't take your box around to your mates who don't have sky in order to watch the recorded progs. And why shouldn't you be able to do that? You've paid for them. Does your DVD rental shop attach a GPS device to each DVD rented in order to stop you viewing at a friend's house? Of course not. -- Its exactly the same if you downgrade your licence, any programs stored on the hard drive, which you may not have viewed. are no longer viewable, if that channel is no longer being paid for. Hence the need for a dish feed to allow you to view. In effect you a re not paying for the programs you have recorded, just for what you are viewing at the time. Conversely you could record loads of films off channels you don't subscribe to at present, upgrade your package and then be able to see them. Personally I prefer to stick with the basic sky and record films to my Panasonic hs2, no encryption issues then if the signal is lost. However this doesn't help if you loose the signal when the program you want is on, as I did for about 10 hours when it snowed. (Dish is too high to access and clear the snow off, I have to wait until it melts!) |
Jomtien wrote:
Tony H wrote: It seems that when you lose the satellite signal, Sky+ doesn't allow you to view pre-recorded programmes either! Indeed. I can't see that there's any technical reason why this should be so. The technical reason is that the viewing card uses the live signal to authorise decoding. This isn't a valid reason of course. Thanks to all for the feedback. I got the impression that their was some delay between loss of signal and the box refusing to playback (of the order of an hour, perhaps?). It would be better if this delay were upped to 12 or 24 hours to account for adverse winter weather conditions. The support chap at Sky said I'd been the only person he knew of to complain of this problem. Maybe if more of you complain to them they'll do something about it! Tony H |
"Tony H" wrote in message ... Jomtien wrote: The support chap at Sky said I'd been the only person he knew of to complain of this problem. I bet he says that to everyone who complains of this problem... |
Tony H wrote:
I got the impression that their was some delay between loss of signal and the box refusing to playback (of the order of an hour, perhaps?). That's possible. Sky are very cagey about how the authorisation is achieved but I could imagine a signal coming through every hour or so. It would be better if this delay were upped to 12 or 24 hours to account for adverse winter weather conditions. Indeed. The support chap at Sky said I'd been the only person he knew of to complain of this problem. They also say that no one wants a "view last channel" button yet this is the one feature that has been requested most since Sky Digital launched. -- Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these. The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/tez5 How to get UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73 Fed up with logos / red buttons? : http://logofreetv.org/ BBC gone? : http://www.astra2d.co.uk/ ---- Only the truth as I see it. No monies return'd. ;-) |
Just tried playing a movie that I had recorded and viewed while I had the
movie package over Christmas. I can still watch the movies I recorded but my viewing package has gone back to the family pack !! "Ken Fowler" wrote in message ... Its exactly the same if you downgrade your licence, any programs stored on the hard drive, which you may not have viewed. are no longer viewable, if that channel is no longer being paid for. Hence the need for a dish feed to allow you to view. In effect you a re not paying for the programs you have recorded, just for what you are viewing at the time. Conversely you could record loads of films off channels you don't subscribe to at present, upgrade your package and then be able to see them. Personally I prefer to stick with the basic sky and record films to my Panasonic hs2, no encryption issues then if the signal is lost. However this doesn't help if you loose the signal when the program you want is on, as I did for about 10 hours when it snowed. (Dish is too high to access and clear the snow off, I have to wait until it melts!) |
On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 07:40:35 GMT, Jomtien wrote:
No. The Sky+ is perfectly capable of playing back recordings without a satellite signal or EPG. However it has been deliberately slugged to make this impossible. I thought I read that with the new software it didn't so this any more? |
On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 15:45:04 +0000 (UTC), "loz"
wrote: The support chap at Sky said I'd been the only person he knew of to complain of this problem. I bet he says that to everyone who complains of this problem... "We've had a lot of people asking for that but we don't do it coz there's no demand for it..." :-) |
On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 08:35:19 GMT, Jomtien wrote:
They also say that no one wants a "view last channel" button yet this is the one feature that has been requested most since Sky Digital launched. I doubt it - I think dual record has been the most popular request. (and I STILL can't see the need for a "view last channel button") |
"K" wrote in message ... On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 08:35:19 GMT, Jomtien wrote: They also say that no one wants a "view last channel" button yet this is the one feature that has been requested most since Sky Digital launched. I doubt it - I think dual record has been the most popular request. (and I STILL can't see the need for a "view last channel button") I have a portable that has this facility and its excellent, makes it much easier to watch two things at the same time, so to speak. Its labelled 'zap'! -- Tumbleweed Remove theobvious before replying (but no email reply necessary to newsgroups) |
K wrote:
They also say that no one wants a "view last channel" button yet this is the one feature that has been requested most since Sky Digital launched. I doubt it - I think dual record has been the most popular request. (and I STILL can't see the need for a "view last channel button") I was referring to regular digiboxes though even for the Sky+ a "last channel button" is indeed the most useful addition that could be made to the remote control functions. It has always been the number one request. -- Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these. The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/tez5 How to get UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73 Fed up with logos / red buttons? : http://logofreetv.org/ BBC gone? : http://www.astra2d.co.uk/ ---- Only the truth as I see it. No monies return'd. ;-) |
K wrote:
No. The Sky+ is perfectly capable of playing back recordings without a satellite signal or EPG. However it has been deliberately slugged to make this impossible. I thought I read that with the new software it didn't so this any more? I'm not aware of that. It would be a good but surprising change. -- Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these. The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/tez5 How to get UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73 Fed up with logos / red buttons? : http://logofreetv.org/ BBC gone? : http://www.astra2d.co.uk/ ---- Only the truth as I see it. No monies return'd. ;-) |
On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 06:44:52 GMT, Jomtien wrote:
I'm not aware of that. It would be a good but surprising change. I think I read it was a (perhaps unintentional) side-effect of dual-record. I'll try to find the link to where I read it. |
On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 16:59:39 +0000, K wrote:
On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 06:44:52 GMT, Jomtien wrote: I'm not aware of that. It would be a good but surprising change. I think I read it was a (perhaps unintentional) side-effect of dual-record. I'll try to find the link to where I read it. Here it is http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/...agenu mber=19 |
On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 06:44:28 GMT, Jomtien wrote:
I was referring to regular digiboxes Forgot people still used those :-) (Actually I do have one as well but its controlled by Tivo) though even for the Sky+ a "last channel button" is indeed the most useful addition that could be made to the remote control functions. IOn your opion. I think a one-button subtitle toggle would be much more useful. It has always been the number one request. Where? Do you have any evidence for this? (and could you please explain what it so useful about it? :-) |
What about a Picture in Picture option.....
I always wanted a PIP telly when i was young! Surely this is possible. |
K wrote:
It has always been the number one request. Where? Do you have any evidence for this? (and could you please explain what it so useful about it? :-) Try a search back on Google. This has *always* been the most requested feature, bar none. The usefulness is that with just one button push one can switch quickly to a channel whilst waiting for the ads to end on another, or for the desired programme to start. -- Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these. The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/tez5 How to get UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73 Fed up with logos / red buttons? : http://logofreetv.org/ BBC gone? : http://www.astra2d.co.uk/ ---- Only the truth as I see it. No monies return'd. ;-) |
On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 07:34:36 GMT, Jomtien wrote:
Try a search back on Google. Search for what exactly? This has *always* been the most requested feature, bar none. By whom? Give me some hard evidence please? The usefulness is that with just one button push one can switch quickly to a channel whilst waiting for the ads to end on another, or for the desired programme to start. and you would want to do that because? I use a Sky+ and 3 Tivos - I just fast forward through the adverts. Before I had these I did the same with my VCR. I haven't watched an advert for years. |
K wrote:
Try a search back on Google. Search for what exactly? Try "last channel button" in the groups section. This has *always* been the most requested feature, bar none. By whom? Give me some hard evidence please? As I said, do a search on Google and you will find many requests for this. Far more than for any other feature. The usefulness is that with just one button push one can switch quickly to a channel whilst waiting for the ads to end on another, or for the desired programme to start. and you would want to do that because? I use a Sky+ and 3 Tivos - I just fast forward through the adverts. Before I had these I did the same with my VCR. I haven't watched an advert for years. You have an unusual setup. Others without such a setup would mostly just like a last channel button. Most non-Sky receivers include such a button, as indeed does the Tivo. -- Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these. The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/tez5 How to get UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73 Fed up with logos / red buttons? : http://logofreetv.org/ BBC gone? : http://www.astra2d.co.uk/ ---- Only the truth as I see it. No monies return'd. ;-) |
On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 07:04:11 GMT, Jomtien wrote:
K wrote: Try a search back on Google. Search for what exactly? Try "last channel button" in the groups section. Obviusly if I search for that I waould find requests for that feature! This has *always* been the most requested feature, bar none. By whom? Give me some hard evidence please? As I said, do a search on Google and you will find many requests for this. Far more than for any other feature. If I do a search for this feature I will obviously find more requests for it than any other feature! If I search for a different feature I will find more requests for that one. You have an unusual setup. Agree it is unusual to have so many, maybe :-) Others without such a setup would mostly just like a last channel button. I've never yet anyone who has done this or asked for it. Most non-Sky receivers include such a button, as indeed does the Tivo. And how many times have you used it on your Tivo? |
K wrote:
Others without such a setup would mostly just like a last channel button. I've never yet anyone who has done this or asked for it. Most non-Sky receivers include such a button, as indeed does the Tivo. And how many times have you used it on your Tivo? NTL have it on their cable boxes and it can be very useful, especially when flicking between, say, the latest football scores and a live game. Jim -- Replace 'spam' with 'post' to reply. Rarely updated UK Game Boy Advance FAQ @ http://www.gbafaq.co.uk/ |
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K wrote:
NTL have it on their cable boxes and it can be very useful, especially when flicking between, say, the latest football scores and a live game. Ah, I don't watch football - maybe that's why I've never needed it. :-) Neither do I but that's the best example I could think of. I tend to use it when flicking between music channels during an ad break. Jim -- Replace 'spam' with 'post' to reply. Rarely updated UK Game Boy Advance FAQ @ http://www.gbafaq.co.uk/ |
"Jim Taylor" wrote in message ... K wrote: NTL have it on their cable boxes and it can be very useful, especially when flicking between, say, the latest football scores and a live game. Ah, I don't watch football - maybe that's why I've never needed it. :-) Neither do I but that's the best example I could think of. I tend to use it when flicking between music channels during an ad break. I'd say the main reason Sky don't implement that button is so viewers who don't know the channel number off heart will flick through and spot those crappy channels like Sky One..... thus guaranteeing viewers if only for a couple of seconds! I can well imagine Sky using that tactic and mentioning it to any would be new channel owner wanting the *best* coverage. |
K wrote:
Most non-Sky receivers include such a button, as indeed does the Tivo. And how many times have you used it on your Tivo? Rarely as I have a twin Sky setup. Those without a twin setup would use it. I use it often enough on my Echostar. -- Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these. The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/tez5 How to get UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73 Fed up with logos / red buttons? : http://logofreetv.org/ BBC gone? : http://www.astra2d.co.uk/ ---- Only the truth as I see it. No monies return'd. ;-) |
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