Jomtien ) writes:
Joseph Szadai wrote:

If I tell SKYBUY that I wanna
buy a very expensive 42 inch plasma TV, they can not say:
"I am sorry, you are not UK resident so I can not sell it to you"
It is simply against the EU law.

They can indeed say that. It is not illegal and breaks no UK or EU
law. It should be but it isn't.

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The Terms and conditions on www.sky.com/skybuy do NOT say that
they do not sell plasma TV outside UK.
If the Terms and Conditions they declared themselves do not say dat
(which is the case) refusing outside UK requests is againts the law.
Also in this case since they do not state that they refuse requests
outside UK, they do not handle customers based on equal services
(EU directive) because they have an offer by which you have a chence to gain
back money, but only if you live in the UK (since SKY+ can be subscribed
by UK residents (ok, and ireland, etc).
Do not tell me it is completely legal. At least if they do not say
in terms and conditions that they do not sell outside UK, they can refuse
requests outside UK.
Joe

In article ,
(Joseph Szadai) wrote:

OK, then suppose this:
I travel to UK, live at my friend's house for say 2 weeks.
I order the plasma TV. (I order it for me, not my friend
where I live for 2 weeks).
In this case I can not subscribe to SKY+, since I am not a UK resident,
however since my friend's house is in the UK, they send me the TV
if I give the address and pay its price.

Still not your residence.

This is discrimination.

Still not illegal.

Simon Gardner [dot]co[dot]uk) writes:
In article ,
(Joseph Szadai) wrote:

OK, then suppose this:
I travel to UK, live at my friend's house for say 2 weeks.
I order the plasma TV. (I order it for me, not my friend
where I live for 2 weeks).
In this case I can not subscribe to SKY+, since I am not a UK resident,
however since my friend's house is in the UK, they send me the TV
if I give the address and pay its price.

Still not your residence.

This is discrimination.

Still not illegal.




The terms and conditions do not say that I have to be resident.
Only SKY subscription's terms and conditions says that.
Skybuy does not.

So, discrimination is not illegal in the UK? OK! That's all
I needed to know.

In article ,
Joseph Szadai wrote:
So, discrimination is not illegal in the UK? OK! That's all
I needed to know.

Only some kinds of discrimination are illegal in the UK. Discrimination on
grounds of geography isn't one of them.

Dave
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David Marshall ) writes:
In article ,
Joseph Szadai wrote:
So, discrimination is not illegal in the UK? OK! That's all
I needed to know.

Only some kinds of discrimination are illegal in the UK. Discrimination on
grounds of geography isn't one of them.

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They do not discriminate the sale based on geography.
They discriminate the bonus they connect to the sale geographically
that is illegal.
end debate.

In article ,
Joseph Szadai wrote:
They do not discriminate the sale based on geography.
They discriminate the bonus they connect to the sale geographically
that is illegal.

No! Because there is *no sense* in which geographic discrimination is
illegal!

The bonus, the sale, it doesn't matter, it's still perfectly legal. You've
got at least three people here explicitly telling you that you've
misunderstood the legislation - learn from it.

Dave
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Joseph Szadai wrote:
Do not tell me it is completely legal. At least if they do not say
in terms and conditions that they do not sell outside UK, they can
refuse requests outside UK.
Joe

Just because it is advertised don't mean that they HAVE to sell it to you.
Some on-line store made a mess of its prices a couple of years back and
offered TVs or PC for virtually nothing - they didn't HAVE to sell them at
those prices - they were able to just refuse to sell them.

They do not discriminate the sale based on geography.
They discriminate the bonus they connect to the sale geographically
that is illegal.
end debate.

OK - take them to court then!

"Joseph Szadai" wrote in message
...
They do not discriminate the sale based on geography.
They discriminate the bonus they connect to the sale geographically
that is illegal.
end debate.

OK, so your are convinced.
What you going to do about it?
Moan in newsgroups?

Loz

Joseph Szadai wrote:

So, discrimination is not illegal in the UK? OK! That's all
I needed to know.

Some sorts of discrimination are indeed illegal in Britain and in the
EU. By race, by nationality, by religion, by sex, by age. All illegal,
more or less. Discrimination by geographical location is not illegal,
though it should be.

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