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Heracles Pollux December 5th 03 11:46 AM

News Item: Media Guardian - BBC talks to buy 24 collapse
 
http://logofreetv.org/redirect.asp?i=3362


We don't know the full truth of it, but there are 2 factors:

- The BBC being "unencrypted" has upset NewsCorp / Fox.
- Fox got greedy and asked for too much money.

Personally, I would love to see "24" on FIVE.



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Stevenatherton December 5th 03 05:35 PM

does not the bbc own news 24 then

^^artnada^^ December 5th 03 05:39 PM

Heracles Pollux wrote:
|| http://logofreetv.org/redirect.asp?i=3362
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||
|| We don't know the full truth of it, but there are 2 factors:
||
|| - The BBC being "unencrypted" has upset NewsCorp / Fox.
|| - Fox got greedy and asked for too much money.
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|| Personally, I would love to see "24" on FIVE.
||
||
||
Complete with adverts!!! Yeah, that sounds reel good doesn't it?



Clem Dye December 5th 03 05:45 PM

Heracles Pollux wrote:
http://logofreetv.org/redirect.asp?i=3362


We don't know the full truth of it, but there are 2 factors:

- The BBC being "unencrypted" has upset NewsCorp / Fox.
- Fox got greedy and asked for too much money.

Personally, I would love to see "24" on FIVE.



http://logofreetv.org/
XML Newsfeeds: http://forum.logofreetv.org/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=865



Not much of a loss, by all accounts. Fox wanted to charge OTT for the
3rd series that wasn't doing that well in the US - the broadcasting to
Europe bit was a smokescreen, IMHO. In any event, the second series was
pretty poor after the first, so I don't see this as a big loss. I gave
up on series 2 half way through - way too boring and formulaic. That's
the trouble with US shows - they're flogged to death.

Now the Beeb will have put something hopefully better on in its place.


Clem


a December 5th 03 05:54 PM

Not much of a loss, by all accounts. Fox wanted to charge OTT for the
3rd series that wasn't doing that well in the US - the broadcasting to
Europe bit was a smokescreen, IMHO. In any event, the second series was
pretty poor after the first, so I don't see this as a big loss. I gave
up on series 2 half way through - way too boring and formulaic. That's
the trouble with US shows - they're flogged to death.


I think you missed out on S2, IMO is got better as it progressed. The same
is happening with S3, a little slow to start but it is getting pretty good
again now (albeit pretty predictable)



a December 5th 03 05:55 PM

|| Personally, I would love to see "24" on FIVE.
||
||
||
Complete with adverts!!! Yeah, that sounds reel good doesn't it?


But each episode would be an hour long instead of 40 minutes - real time ;o)



Alan Ramsay December 5th 03 06:02 PM

"Stevenatherton" wrote in message
...
does not the bbc own news 24 then


Yes, but the Article is about 24, not "News 24".

Alan



Hiram Hackenbacker December 5th 03 06:04 PM

On 05 Dec 2003 16:35:50 GMT, (Stevenatherton)
wrote:

does not the bbc own news 24 then


24 - the series, not News 24, is being discussed here.

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Meng December 5th 03 06:05 PM



From: "a"
Newsgroups: uk.media.tv.sky,uk.media.tv.misc
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:55:19 -0000
Subject: News Item: Media Guardian - BBC talks to buy 24 collapse

|| Personally, I would love to see "24" on FIVE.
||
||
||
Complete with adverts!!! Yeah, that sounds reel good doesn't it?


But each episode would be an hour long instead of 40 minutes - real time ;o)


Would it? With Five's dismal record of editing (i.e. butchering)?


Neil Hopkins December 5th 03 06:14 PM

On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 17:05:13 +0000, Meng wrote:



From: "a"
Newsgroups: uk.media.tv.sky,uk.media.tv.misc
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:55:19 -0000
Subject: News Item: Media Guardian - BBC talks to buy 24 collapse

|| Personally, I would love to see "24" on FIVE.
||
||
||
Complete with adverts!!! Yeah, that sounds reel good doesn't it?


But each episode would be an hour long instead of 40 minutes - real time ;o)


Would it? With Five's dismal record of editing (i.e. butchering)?


If Five show it, it will be on at 8:00 pm for about 15 weeks before
vanishing without trace. Channel 4 would edit it for a tea time
audience, show 3 episodes and then broadcast the rest in the
prestigous 2 am slot in three years time.

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Stevenatherton December 5th 03 06:54 PM

sorry

a December 5th 03 08:53 PM

Complete with adverts!!! Yeah, that sounds reel good doesn't it?

But each episode would be an hour long instead of 40 minutes - real

time ;o)


Would it? With Five's dismal record of editing (i.e. butchering)?


If Five show it, it will be on at 8:00 pm for about 15 weeks before
vanishing without trace. Channel 4 would edit it for a tea time
audience, show 3 episodes and then broadcast the rest in the
prestigous 2 am slot in three years time.



I hate to think what they will do with episode 5 then - in the states they
put the warning message "Due to some graphic violence, viewer discrection is
advised" during the ad breaks :o)



Dom Robinson December 5th 03 10:33 PM

In article ,
says...
|| Personally, I would love to see "24" on FIVE.
||
||
||
Complete with adverts!!! Yeah, that sounds reel good doesn't it?


But each episode would be an hour long instead of 40 minutes - real time ;o)

Full of ads which I'd fast-forward anyway!

Still, either way at least we won't get Pure Bugs Bunny next year.
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Dom Robinson December 5th 03 10:33 PM

In article , says...
Not much of a loss, by all accounts. Fox wanted to charge OTT for the
3rd series that wasn't doing that well in the US - the broadcasting to
Europe bit was a smokescreen, IMHO. In any event, the second series was
pretty poor after the first, so I don't see this as a big loss. I gave
up on series 2 half way through - way too boring and formulaic. That's
the trouble with US shows - they're flogged to death.


I agree with 'a' that series 2 got better as it progressed. Even episodes
where seemingly not as much happened, there was still enough to engage the
interest.

Now the Beeb will have put something hopefully better on in its place.


Yes, something about Best Sitcom Ever(!)
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carl December 5th 03 11:40 PM

Dom Robinson wrote:
:: In article ,
:: says...
:::::: Personally, I would love to see "24" on FIVE.
::::::
::::::
:::::: Complete with adverts!!! Yeah, that sounds reel good doesn't
:::::: it?
:::
::: But each episode would be an hour long instead of 40 minutes - real
::: time ;o)
:::
:: Full of ads which I'd fast-forward anyway!
::
:: Still, either way at least we won't get Pure Bugs Bunny next year.


Nah, keeping Pure ****e even though they've lost the rights to 24 would be
another example of Stuart Murphy "thinking out of his box". Still, not long
before his self-imposed departure from BBC Free materialises - with a track
record like his, it can only be onwards and upwards for the muppet. And
there's a ready made replacement, eager for a whole channel to **** up
instead of just a single programme. Andi Peters of ****sville, opportunity
knocks...


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gerxyz December 5th 03 11:46 PM

"Clem Dye" wrote in message
...
Heracles Pollux wrote:
http://logofreetv.org/redirect.asp?i=3362


We don't know the full truth of it, but there are 2 factors:

- The BBC being "unencrypted" has upset NewsCorp / Fox.
- Fox got greedy and asked for too much money.

Personally, I would love to see "24" on FIVE.



http://logofreetv.org/
XML Newsfeeds: http://forum.logofreetv.org/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=865



Not much of a loss, by all accounts. Fox wanted to charge OTT for the
3rd series that wasn't doing that well in the US - the broadcasting to
Europe bit was a smokescreen, IMHO. In any event, the second series was
pretty poor after the first, so I don't see this as a big loss. I gave
up on series 2 half way through - way too boring and formulaic. That's
the trouble with US shows - they're flogged to death.


I find it hard to believe anyone who loves good drama could find season two
of 24 'boring and formulaic.' Its the most gripping thing Ive ever seen on
television.
So yes, a lot of people will consider it a great loss not to have 24 on
BBC2.




Heracles Pollux December 5th 03 11:47 PM

..

I find it hard to believe anyone who loves good drama could find season two
of 24 'boring and formulaic.' Its the most gripping thing Ive ever seen on
television.
So yes, a lot of people will consider it a great loss not to have 24 on
BBC2.



Quite. 24 floats my boat. It has to be one of great TV events for me of
the year: Plus CSI, Law and Order and The Shield.

It is a matter of taste of course.

The scene where the nuke goes off was one of those profound TV moments,
at least in my mind.





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Dom Robinson December 5th 03 11:48 PM

In article lgate.org,
says...
.

I find it hard to believe anyone who loves good drama could find season two
of 24 'boring and formulaic.' Its the most gripping thing Ive ever seen on
television.
So yes, a lot of people will consider it a great loss not to have 24 on
BBC2.



Quite. 24 floats my boat. It has to be one of great TV events for me of
the year: Plus CSI, Law and Order and The Shield.

It is a matter of taste of course.

The scene where the nuke goes off was one of those profound TV moments,
at least in my mind.

That was one hell of a nurse!
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John L December 6th 03 03:06 AM

On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 16:45:58 +0000, Clem Dye wrote:

Now the Beeb will have put something hopefully better on in its place.


Such as Carnivale...

John L

Kieran Seymour December 6th 03 11:25 AM

"John L" wrote
Clem Dye wrote:
Now the Beeb will have put something hopefully better on in its

place.

Such as Carnivale...


I've only read a few episode synopses in TV Zone, but Carnivale sounds
pretty damn interesting.

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matt December 6th 03 12:05 PM


"Clem Dye" wrote in message
...
Heracles Pollux wrote:
http://logofreetv.org/redirect.asp?i=3362


We don't know the full truth of it, but there are 2 factors:

- The BBC being "unencrypted" has upset NewsCorp / Fox.
- Fox got greedy and asked for too much money.

Personally, I would love to see "24" on FIVE.



http://logofreetv.org/
XML Newsfeeds: http://forum.logofreetv.org/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=865



Not much of a loss, by all accounts. Fox wanted to charge OTT for the
3rd series that wasn't doing that well in the US - the broadcasting to
Europe bit was a smokescreen, IMHO. In any event, the second series was
pretty poor after the first, so I don't see this as a big loss. I gave
up on series 2 half way through - way too boring and formulaic. That's
the trouble with US shows - they're flogged to death.


Like Britain makes anything better.



Clem Dye December 6th 03 02:01 PM

a wrote:
Not much of a loss, by all accounts. Fox wanted to charge OTT for the
3rd series that wasn't doing that well in the US - the broadcasting to
Europe bit was a smokescreen, IMHO. In any event, the second series was
pretty poor after the first, so I don't see this as a big loss. I gave
up on series 2 half way through - way too boring and formulaic. That's
the trouble with US shows - they're flogged to death.



I think you missed out on S2, IMO is got better as it progressed. The same
is happening with S3, a little slow to start but it is getting pretty good
again now (albeit pretty predictable)



I gave up on S2 at about episode 9, AIR. I appreciate that this type of
programme is slow to build (as was S1), but it just seemed too
predictable for my liking, along with a big chunk of implausability.

Each to their own .....


Clem Dye December 6th 03 02:04 PM

gerxyz wrote:
"Clem Dye" wrote in message
...

Heracles Pollux wrote:

http://logofreetv.org/redirect.asp?i=3362


We don't know the full truth of it, but there are 2 factors:

- The BBC being "unencrypted" has upset NewsCorp / Fox.
- Fox got greedy and asked for too much money.

Personally, I would love to see "24" on FIVE.



http://logofreetv.org/
XML Newsfeeds: http://forum.logofreetv.org/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=865



Not much of a loss, by all accounts. Fox wanted to charge OTT for the
3rd series that wasn't doing that well in the US - the broadcasting to
Europe bit was a smokescreen, IMHO. In any event, the second series was
pretty poor after the first, so I don't see this as a big loss. I gave
up on series 2 half way through - way too boring and formulaic. That's
the trouble with US shows - they're flogged to death.



I find it hard to believe anyone who loves good drama could find season two
of 24 'boring and formulaic.' Its the most gripping thing Ive ever seen on
television.
So yes, a lot of people will consider it a great loss not to have 24 on
BBC2.




As a posted, it just didn't grip me. S1 was pretty entertaining because
it was a new concept. S2 relied on the formula of S1, so the format was,
IMO, already tired. Add to that an implausible story line (again, IMO)
and by episode 9 or 10, I'd had it. I found it so boring I kept falling
asleep through it - not the mark of something engaging in my book.


Clem


John L December 10th 03 03:55 AM

On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:25:15 -0000, "Kieran Seymour"
wrote:

"John L" wrote
Clem Dye wrote:
Now the Beeb will have put something hopefully better on in its

place.

Such as Carnivale...


I've only read a few episode synopses in TV Zone, but Carnivale sounds
pretty damn interesting.


Slow, sometimes doom-ladenly pretentious, but better by a mile than
almost anything currently on UK TV. Astonishing photography, excellent
writing and acting. Above all original - there's nothing else like it
(the Twin Peaks comparison is way off the mark - closer to American
Gothic, I think)

I'm wondering who *will* buy it. BBC2? (maybe with a BBC4 showing
beforehand? Can't see it working on BBC3 [or 1] at all). Channel 4?
(the usual home for HBO stuff)

Maybe Channel 5 if it's cheap enough : )

John L


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