Could be interesting?
 

For Sky+ users anyway:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3256945.stm

*Some have pointed out that fast-forwarding through the ads at the start of
a DVD now contravenes the law. And using a file-sharing service is an
infringement, although one that, as yet, is likely to go unpunished.*

How long before Sky decide to implement stopping us skipping through their
adverts??

In uk.media.tv.sky on Wed, 12 Nov 2003 at 00:37:21, The Wizard wrote :
For Sky+ users anyway:

*Some have pointed out that fast-forwarding through the ads at the start of
a DVD now contravenes the law. And using a file-sharing service is an
infringement, although one that, as yet, is likely to go unpunished.*

How long before Sky decide to implement stopping us skipping through their
adverts??

About 1 week before half the Sky+ subscribers decide to ditch the
service, I'd imagine.

One of the main pluses of time-shifting is to avoid adverts, and if you
couldn't do that, what's the point?
--
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"The Wizard" wrote in message
.. .
For Sky+ users anyway:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3256945.stm

*Some have pointed out that fast-forwarding through the ads at the start
of
a DVD now contravenes the law.

Sounds like ******** to me. On what basis do these 'some' argue that?

How long before Sky decide to implement stopping us skipping through their
adverts??


I believe they wouldnt do this since it wouyld encourage people to go to
SKY+ alternatives, and also that adverse publicity would rule this out, but
if it ever happens I'll cancel the day they do it. Wouldnt take much of a
percentage doing the same thing to make them change their minds.
There is enough thats crappy about SKy without having to make other stuff up
that they arent doing.

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"The Wizard" wrote in message
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For Sky+ users anyway:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3256945.stm

*Some have pointed out that fast-forwarding through the ads at the start
of
a DVD now contravenes the law.

Sounds like ******** to me. On what basis do these 'some' argue that?

How long before Sky decide to implement stopping us skipping through
their
adverts??


I believe they wouldnt do this since it wouyld encourage people to go to
SKY+ alternatives, and also that adverse publicity would rule this out,
but
if it ever happens I'll cancel the day they do it. Wouldnt take much of a
percentage doing the same thing to make them change their minds.
There is enough thats crappy about SKy without having to make other stuff
up
that they arent doing.

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I'm with you on that, it's about the only restriction they could put on Sky+
that would make me drop it fast!

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On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 00:37:21 -0000, "The Wizard"
wrote:

For Sky+ users anyway:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3256945.stm

*Some have pointed out that fast-forwarding through the ads at the start
of
a DVD now contravenes the law. And using a file-sharing service is an
infringement, although one that, as yet, is likely to go unpunished.*

Does anybody have any DVDs with ads at the start? I'm pretty sure I
don't...

Charlie


I wondered that. What about the ones you'd hire from a blockbuster etc. Do
they?

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*Some have pointed out that fast-forwarding through the ads at the start of
a DVD now contravenes the law.

I read that too and really wondered how they are going to force us to
do this?
What will the next step be I wonder? Force us to read all the
advertisements in magazine and newspapers?

Does anybody have any DVDs with ads at the start? I'm pretty sure I
don't...

Some of my Region 3 DVD's have some trailers you can't skip, and as
trailers are ads for movies... :-)

Charlie

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*Some have pointed out that fast-forwarding through the ads at the start
of
a DVD now contravenes the law.

I read that too and really wondered how they are going to force us to
do this?
What will the next step be I wonder? Force us to read all the
advertisements in magazine and newspapers?

Does anybody have any DVDs with ads at the start? I'm pretty sure I
don't...

Some of my Region 3 DVD's have some trailers you can't skip, and as
trailers are ads for movies... :-)

Also read on another NG that in the USA Digital TV programes are being
*flagged* to stop copying (Perhaps to stop all those that put the copies up
on BT for downloading?)
Apparently,This was to be implemented on digital STB's in the USA much like
Sky PPV I guess.

Usually does'nt take long for USA *ideas* to reach Sky :-(

http://www.bigar.co.uk

On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:49:22 +0000, Bigarbel
wrote:



Does anybody have any DVDs with ads at the start? I'm pretty sure I
don't...

Some of my Region 3 DVD's have some trailers you can't skip, and as
trailers are ads for movies... :-)

Charlie


I've had a couple that at first attempt do not appear to be skippable,
but eventually I've got there. If they all had unskippable ads I'd
stop buying them.

MJ

In uk.media.tv.sky on Thu, 13 Nov 2003 at 00:42:31, The Wizard wrote :

Also read on another NG that in the USA Digital TV programes are being
*flagged* to stop copying (Perhaps to stop all those that put the copies up
on BT for downloading?)

That won't work - hackers will eventually crack any copyright scheme,
not to mention that 'excessive' protection schemes **** off customers
and damage sales.
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In uk.media.tv.sky on Thu, 13 Nov 2003 at 01:44:27, wrote :

Some of my Region 3 DVD's have some trailers you can't skip, and as
trailers are ads for movies... :-)

I've had a couple that at first attempt do not appear to be skippable,
but eventually I've got there. If they all had unskippable ads I'd
stop buying them.

Exactly!
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Bigarbel wrote:

Some of my Region 3 DVD's have some trailers you can't skip,

Quite a lot of DVDs have either copyright notices, production logos or
trailers before the film. The first two generally are flagged as "must
show" with a view to preventing you from fast forwarding or chapter
skipping past them. However, not all DVD players respect that flag,
just as they don't respect region coding. I have a Yamada Chinese one
(multi-region from the factory) that will happily skip past all these
screens using the chapter forward button. I have a second from Toshiba
(multi-region via hacked firmware) that will not.

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PLEASE.co.uk says...
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 00:37:21 -0000, "The Wizard"
wrote:

For Sky+ users anyway:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3256945.stm

*Some have pointed out that fast-forwarding through the ads at the start of
a DVD now contravenes the law. And using a file-sharing service is an
infringement, although one that, as yet, is likely to go unpunished.*

Does anybody have any DVDs with ads at the start? I'm pretty sure I
don't...

Some of the new Fox ones do. You can fast-forward them, but beforehand there's
an interminable "This product is not for rental" piece which you can't ffwd
and is a royal pain.
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In uk.media.tv.sky on Thu, 13 Nov 2003 at 21:06:08, Dom Robinson wrote :

Does anybody have any DVDs with ads at the start? I'm pretty sure I
don't...

Some of the new Fox ones do. You can fast-forward them, but beforehand there's
an interminable "This product is not for rental" piece which you can't ffwd
and is a royal pain.

These notices are pretty pointless anyway - those intending to pirate
the DVD will ignore them, and those who wouldn't are just ****ed off by
them.

I'm assuming the warnings are a legal requirement, so why not just put
them at the end? That way the copyright owners asses are covered, but
they don't **** off customers because they can just be skipped.
--
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Dom Robinson wrote:

You can fast-forward them, but beforehand there's
an interminable "This product is not for rental" piece which you can't ffwd
and is a royal pain.

As I said, you can skip through these if you have the right machine.
One of my players does this.

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Fed up with logos / red buttons? : http://logofreetv.org/
BBC gone? : http://www.astra2d.co.uk/
----
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wrote:

Which particular model is it,

A DVD-2100.


or are all Yamadas like this?

I don't know.

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The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/tez5
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Fed up with logos / red buttons? : http://logofreetv.org/
BBC gone? : http://www.astra2d.co.uk/
----
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In article , Charlie Pearce
writes
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 00:37:21 -0000, "The Wizard"
wrote:

For Sky+ users anyway:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3256945.stm

*Some have pointed out that fast-forwarding through the ads at the start of
a DVD now contravenes the law. And using a file-sharing service is an
infringement, although one that, as yet, is likely to go unpunished.*

Does anybody have any DVDs with ads at the start? I'm pretty sure I
don't...
The R1 Hulk has trailers that run at the start, you can't go to the menu
or chapter skip them, all you can do is FF through them.
--
Sean Black

In article , says...
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:17:04 GMT, Jomtien wrote:

Bigarbel wrote:

Some of my Region 3 DVD's have some trailers you can't skip,

Quite a lot of DVDs have either copyright notices, production logos or
trailers before the film. The first two generally are flagged as "must
show" with a view to preventing you from fast forwarding or chapter
skipping past them. However, not all DVD players respect that flag,
just as they don't respect region coding. I have a Yamada Chinese one
(multi-region from the factory) that will happily skip past all these
screens using the chapter forward button. I have a second from Toshiba
(multi-region via hacked firmware) that will not.

Priceless. Which particular model is it, or are all Yamadas like this?
I get so ****ed off with fbi warnings and other crap I may well be
inclined to dump my expensive Toshiba for one of these.

I bought the Pacific DVD1001 for my Mum for Xmas. It cost £35 from Asda.
Cracking picture. Not sure which multi-region hack worked for it as I tried a
couple and no discs would play at all for 30 mins or so (realised I should've
let it warm up), so I put in the DVD750 and DVD1002 hacks into it (from DVD
Reviewer's website, www.dvd.reviewer.co.uk ) and it works.
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/* 957 DVDs, 262 games, 33 videos, 68 cinema films, 69 CDs, laserdiscs & news
/* darkness falls, the truth about medion, final destination 2, old school
"Girls Aloud will be here next week and they'll be ready for a roasting!"
- Fearne Cotton announces the girl band will be answering q's on TOTP Saturday