SKY News is now unwatchable
 

First of all, there were the audio whooshes whenever they invaded the
screen with News Flashes

Now they have the continuous ticker, which is very distracting

I have switched to News 24, much less annoying, though the BBC emphasis
on foreign News is still too much.

On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 03:39:46 +0000, (Pea Soup)
wrote:

First of all, there were the audio whooshes whenever they invaded the
screen with News Flashes

Now they have the continuous ticker, which is very distracting

Agreed, unbearable.

I have switched to News 24, much less annoying, though the BBC emphasis
on foreign News is still too much.

The BBC emphasis on carrying more foreign news is particularly
welcome. In fact the BBC emphasis on carrying more news is good.

--
Hiram Hackenbacker

Hiram Hackenbacker wrote:
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 03:39:46 +0000, (Pea Soup)
wrote:

First of all, there were the audio whooshes whenever they invaded the
screen with News Flashes

Now they have the continuous ticker, which is very distracting

Agreed, unbearable.

Double agreed.

I have switched to News 24, much less annoying, though the BBC
emphasis on foreign News is still too much.

The BBC emphasis on carrying more foreign news is particularly
welcome.

Yep, I agree too. However it would be nice if BBC World (which I watch
when I'm out of the UK) carried more UK news. Hotels provide it because
they assume it does. In fact the Beeb deliberately play down any UK
connection with the channel. Therefore I often find myself watching Sky
News when abroad, just to get UK news. I never watch it at home though.

In article ,
"Mark Carver" wrote:

However it would be nice if BBC World (which I watch
when I'm out of the UK) carried more UK news.

Why? It's not what it's there for.

Hotels provide it because
they assume it does.

Balls.

In fact the Beeb deliberately play down any UK
connection with the channel. Therefore I often find myself watching Sky
News when abroad, just to get UK news. I never watch it at home though.

Simon Gardner wrote:
In article ,
"Mark Carver" wrote:

However it would be nice if BBC World (which I watch
when I'm out of the UK) carried more UK news.

Why? It's not what it's there for.

I know that, that's why I said (and you snipped) that the Beeb played
down any UK connection. But, if it did carry some UK domestic news it could
gain more (albeit transient) viewers. After all it is still a commercial
enterprise?

Hotels provide it because
they assume it does.

Balls.

I'll pass your kind comment onto the next overseas hotel manager that states
the same to me. :-)

On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 03:39:46 +0000, (Pea Soup)
wrote:

First of all, there were the audio whooshes whenever they invaded the
screen with News Flashes

Now they have the continuous ticker, which is very distracting

I have switched to News 24, much less annoying, though the BBC emphasis
on foreign News is still too much.

The news flashes are a pile of sh*te anyway - usually something
completely trivial and non-urgent taking up a ridiculous part of the
screen.

--
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My Lake District walking site (updated 29th September 2003):
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On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 12:58:55 +0000, (Pea Soup)
wrote:

Paul Rooney wrote:

On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 03:39:46 +0000, (Pea Soup)
wrote:

First of all, there were the audio whooshes whenever they invaded the
screen with News Flashes

Now they have the continuous ticker, which is very distracting

I have switched to News 24, much less annoying, though the BBC emphasis
on foreign News is still too much.

The news flashes are a pile of sh*te anyway - usually something
completely trivial and non-urgent taking up a ridiculous part of the
screen.


I have come up with some sort of a compromise when I watch SKY News, I
have setup the User screen size format on my TV to virtually exclude the
ticker, and most of the logo, but it would be nice if perhaps they could
transmit a pre DSK version on 502 !!

Do you think anyone tells Sky what's wrong with their news screen? Do
you think they would take any notice?

--
Paul
My Lake District walking site (updated 29th September 2003):
http://paulrooney.netfirms.com

Please sponsor me for the London Marathon at:
http://www.justgiving.com/london2004

In article ,
"Mark Carver" wrote:

Simon Gardner wrote:
In article ,
"Mark Carver" wrote:

However it would be nice if BBC World (which I watch
when I'm out of the UK) carried more UK news.

Why? It's not what it's there for.

I know that, that's why I said (and you snipped) that the Beeb played
down any UK connection.

Which was entirely extraneous to your main point (ie the one I was
responding to) - which is why it was snipped.

But, if it did carry some UK domestic news it could
gain more (albeit transient) viewers.

Can't think why. It's not what its there for.

After all it is still a commercial
enterprise?

Hotels provide it because
they assume it does.

Balls.

I'll pass your kind comment onto the next overseas hotel manager that states
the same to me. :-)

Feel free.

Simon Gardner wrote:

But, if it did carry some UK domestic news it could
gain more (albeit transient) viewers.

Can't think why. It's not what its there for.

What is it there for ? I'd like to see a link to BBC World's 'Mission
Statement'

Paul Rooney wrote:

On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 03:39:46 +0000, (Pea Soup)
wrote:

First of all, there were the audio whooshes whenever they invaded the
screen with News Flashes

Now they have the continuous ticker, which is very distracting

I have switched to News 24, much less annoying, though the BBC emphasis
on foreign News is still too much.

The news flashes are a pile of sh*te anyway - usually something
completely trivial and non-urgent taking up a ridiculous part of the
screen.


I have come up with some sort of a compromise when I watch SKY News, I
have setup the User screen size format on my TV to virtually exclude the
ticker, and most of the logo, but it would be nice if perhaps they could
transmit a pre DSK version on 502 !!

Paul Rooney wrote:

On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 12:58:55 +0000, (Pea Soup)
wrote:

Paul Rooney wrote:

On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 03:39:46 +0000, (Pea Soup)
wrote:

First of all, there were the audio whooshes whenever they invaded the
screen with News Flashes

Now they have the continuous ticker, which is very distracting

I have switched to News 24, much less annoying, though the BBC emphasis
on foreign News is still too much.

The news flashes are a pile of sh*te anyway - usually something
completely trivial and non-urgent taking up a ridiculous part of the
screen.


I have come up with some sort of a compromise when I watch SKY News, I
have setup the User screen size format on my TV to virtually exclude the
ticker, and most of the logo, but it would be nice if perhaps they could
transmit a pre DSK version on 502 !!

Do you think anyone tells Sky what's wrong with their news screen? Do
you think they would take any notice?

I've never had a response to my e-mail yet, perhaps it's still staffed
by Aussies, that's why they need all the sounds and large print, perhaps
e-mails to should be in very large print, with a whoosh of
course...

On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 13:14:16 +0000, (Pea Soup)
wrote:

Paul Rooney wrote:

On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 12:58:55 +0000, (Pea Soup)
wrote:

Paul Rooney wrote:

On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 03:39:46 +0000, (Pea Soup)
wrote:

First of all, there were the audio whooshes whenever they invaded the
screen with News Flashes

Now they have the continuous ticker, which is very distracting

I have switched to News 24, much less annoying, though the BBC emphasis
on foreign News is still too much.

The news flashes are a pile of sh*te anyway - usually something
completely trivial and non-urgent taking up a ridiculous part of the
screen.


I have come up with some sort of a compromise when I watch SKY News, I
have setup the User screen size format on my TV to virtually exclude the
ticker, and most of the logo, but it would be nice if perhaps they could
transmit a pre DSK version on 502 !!

Do you think anyone tells Sky what's wrong with their news screen? Do
you think they would take any notice?

I've never had a response to my e-mail yet, perhaps it's still staffed
by Aussies, that's why they need all the sounds and large print, perhaps
e-mails to should be in very large print, with a whoosh of
course...

(-:

--
Paul
My Lake District walking site (updated 29th September 2003):
http://paulrooney.netfirms.com

Please sponsor me for the London Marathon at:
http://www.justgiving.com/london2004

On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 13:38:04 +0100, "Mark Carver"
wrote:

Simon Gardner wrote:

But, if it did carry some UK domestic news it could
gain more (albeit transient) viewers.

Can't think why. It's not what its there for.

What is it there for ? I'd like to see a link to BBC World's 'Mission
Statement'



Isn't it the BBCs stab at a CNN International-type channel rather than
home news for expats?
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Cheeky wrote:
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 13:38:04 +0100, "Mark Carver"
wrote:

What is it there for ? I'd like to see a link to BBC World's
'Mission Statement'

Isn't it the BBCs stab at a CNN International-type channel rather than
home news for expats?

Yep, probably is, but even CNN-I has a programme for US ex-pats, (American
Edition)

Deutche Welle (the German international TV news channel) has similar slots,
as indeed does BBC World Service Radio.

In article ,
"Mark Carver" wrote:

Simon Gardner wrote:

But, if it did carry some UK domestic news it could
gain more (albeit transient) viewers.

Can't think why. It's not what its there for.

What is it there for ?

It's an international news channel. It's not there to compete with News 21.

I'd like to see a link to BBC World's 'Mission
Statement'

Me too.

Simon Gardner wrote:
It's an international news channel. It's not there to compete with
News 21.

News 24 is not a 'competitor' to BBC World anywhere outside of Astra 2D's
footprint, there the only source of TV UK domestic news is via
Sky News (where available).

IMHO the Beeb could enhance their domestic appreciation by providing a slot
on BBC World aimed at UK holiday makers, and business travellers.

This is something they do on BBC World Service *Radio*. I would have thought
there was less of a case to have it on radio (FCO financed), than on TV (advertising
funded)

In article ,
"Mark Carver" wrote:

Cheeky wrote:
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 13:38:04 +0100, "Mark Carver"
wrote:

What is it there for ? I'd like to see a link to BBC World's
'Mission Statement'

Isn't it the BBCs stab at a CNN International-type channel rather than
home news for expats?

Yep, probably is, but even CNN-I has a programme for US ex-pats, (American
Edition)

Deutche Welle (the German international TV news channel) has similar slots,

I've never thought DW was trying to do the same thing as BBC World at all
(or even CNNi).

In article ,
"Mark Carver" wrote:

IMHO the Beeb could enhance their domestic appreciation by providing a slot
on BBC World aimed at UK holiday makers, and business travellers.

I'm sure they aren't after 'enhancing their domestic appreciation' and the
UK public is not the target - fortunately.

The one thing World is weak on is non-UK European news. CNNi is far better
in this regard.

Simon Gardner wrote:

The one thing World is weak on is non-UK European news. CNNi is far
better in this regard.

Agreed. CNN-I presenting their output from London 05:00-08:00 GMT
and again also 'evening time' GMT helps.

In article ,
"Mark Carver" wrote:

Simon Gardner wrote:

The one thing World is weak on is non-UK European news. CNNi is far
better in this regard.

Agreed. CNN-I presenting their output from London 05:00-08:00 GMT
and again also 'evening time' GMT helps.

I just find CNNi's coverage better. If I want to follow a referendum or
general election or Lande election etc elsewhere in Europe - but in English
- then I don't use World.

BillR wrote:

Pea Soup wrote:
First of all, there were the audio whooshes whenever they invaded the
screen with News Flashes

Now they have the continuous ticker, which is very distracting

I have switched to News 24, much less annoying, though the BBC
emphasis on foreign News is still too much.

At least the BBC don't make up stories like Sky..
They do make you redundant, and employ kids and cheap media students
though

On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:18:44 +0100, "BillR"
wrote:

At least the BBC don't make up stories like Sky..

You've obviously never read BBC News Online then. :-)