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If you were the BBC wouldn't you want to save =A388m over five years? =
Anyway,=20 the government have got to step in to this mess if they want to switch = off=20 analogue and allow the required %age to view digital (I don't know the = figure=20 but it's a high one, AFAIK) --=20 =20 Why? They've just wasted =A3105 million over 3 years on football rights! --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 05/08/2003 |
I have recieved this email from:
so it may be worth taking it up, but it looks like everyone will pass the book and sky will pick up the money. Im in a position that I can only just pick up a TV signal, but ITV/Channel 4 is not watchable, so I have to use satellite. To have the recieving equipment in the house ie: TV/Video I have to pay a TV licence fee, no choice, why do I have to pay sky also, as am not interested in the other channels, and cant get freeview either. Sorry for the long email below but it may interest some people. ------------------------------------------------ Dear Mr Norton, Thank you for your e-mail of 03 August regarding free to view channels on satellite. Firstly, as you may know, most of the digital satellite programmes intended for reception in the UK are transmitted from the Astra 2A, 2B and 2D satellites, although a few services make use of the Eurobird 1 satellite. In May, the BBC services moved over from using Astra 2A to 2D. Astra 2A covers the UK together with a large part of continental Europe. Whereas Astra 2D has a tighter footprint covering, primarily the UK and Republic of Ireland, with some spillover into France and Benelux. As a result of these changes, it is now possible to view BBC services on digital satellite free-to-air without the need for a viewing card. BSkyB and the BBC announced on 13 June a five year agreement which includes the continued allocation to BBC1 and to BBC2 channel numbers 101 and 102 respectively on BSkyB's Electronic Programme Guide (EPG). As part of that agreement, the BBC is buying a regionalisation service from Sky to ensure that viewers with a Sky viewing card within the UK will continue to automatically receive the right national and regional versions of BBC1 and BBC2. But this will also enable digital satellite viewers to receive any of the BBC's national and regional services anywhere in the UK. The BBC agreement will end payment by the BBC to BSkyB for the provision of "Solus" viewing cards to digital satellite viewers who do not have a subscription to a pay-TV service. I appreciate your concerns as to whether this means consumers will have to subscribe to receive ITV, Channel 4 and Five in the future. As yet, no changes have been made to ITV, Channel 4 or Five. ITV continues to be transmitted form Astra 2D and Channel 4 and Five are on Astra 2A. These channels use the Sky conditional access system, so a viewing card is required. We are advised by the Independent Television Commission that their present conditional access agreements with Sky has some time to run. However, as things stand, BSkyB will not be sending new viewing cards to "Solus" card viewers as part of the card swap-out programme - unless a free-to-view broadcaster, other than the BBC, wishes to pay to provide replacement cards. Once the existing cards are disabled, access to these services will cease and in the longer term it could be that the commercial public service channels may consider alternative arrangements if they wish to continue to provide free-to view access to their services by satellite. I should clarify that there are provisions in the Communications Act 2003 to empower OfCom to require/approve the provision of arrangements to ensure reception of a 'must provide' satellite service (as defined in the Act and subject to modification by the Secretary of State) in those areas where it is not possible to receive digital public service channels by other means. However, we hope that this current situation can be satisfactorily resolved without the need to use legislation. Finally, you will wish to know that Tessa Jowell has written to the respective Chief Executives of ITV, Channel 4, Channel 5 and BSkyB seeking clarification regarding their position over current and future free-to-view access to their services on digital satellite. We will publish the results of those enquiries on the digital television website www.digitaltelevision.gov.uk as soon as it is possible to do so. I hope this has been of help to you. Rachel Hitchman Digital and Commercial Television Policy Advisor Department for Culture Media and Sport 2-4 Cockspur Street London SW1Y 5DH "Andy" wrote in message ... If you were the BBC wouldn't you want to save £88m over five years? Anyway, the government have got to step in to this mess if they want to switch off analogue and allow the required %age to view digital (I don't know the figure but it's a high one, AFAIK) -- Why? They've just wasted £105 million over 3 years on football rights! --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 05/08/2003 |
Dom Robinson wrote:
What are ITV going to do about it? They alone of the FTV channels have specifically stated that they will do their utmost to remain available to all. C4 have said nothing. C5 have simply said that they now consider themselves to be a free part of Sky and have just signed a 5 year service contract with Sky, presumably whilst waiting to actually be bought by Sky in the near future. -- Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these. The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/guiv How to get UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73 Fed up with logos / red buttons? : http://logofreetv.org/ BBC gone? : http://www.astra2d.co.uk/ ---- Only the truth as I see it. No monies return'd. ;-) |
In article , REMOVETHISBIT-
says... If you were the BBC wouldn't you want to save =A388m over five years? = Anyway,=20 the government have got to step in to this mess if they want to switch = off=20 analogue and allow the required %age to view digital (I don't know the = figure=20 but it's a high one, AFAIK) --=20 =20 Why? They've just wasted =A3105 million over 3 years on football rights! To me, if a TV station spends any money at all on football rights, it's wasted money. Could be worse, there's always rugby - a game played by men with big, odd-shaped balls because they've got none of their own. -- Dom Robinson Gamertag: DVDfever email: dom at dvdfever dot co dot uk /* http://DVDfever.co.uk (editor) /* 937 DVDs, 259 games, 33 videos, 67 cinema films, 69 CDs, laserdiscs & news /* catch me if you can, terminator 3, brute force, punch drunk love, shield s1 "Organiser Eric Amy hit out today after just four people showed up for a public meeting to fight apathy in Dorchester" - Dorset Evening Echo |
Dom Robinson wrote:
In article , says... Tens of thousands of people in the U.K. need the sky platform to get good pictures and service, its a disgrace that because the BBC have gone free to air, no one will pick up the cost of viewing cards for the free channels, so sky use it as a stick to make you subscribe to get the free channels you are due to by right. If you feel like I do please contact your local ITV company at http://www.itv.com/ to complain. What are ITV going to do about it? They weren't paying anything towards the cards, and you could've saved yourself some keystrokes by simply typing itv.com itv.com is not recognised by my newsreader as a clickable link. http://www.itv.com is. -- Spammers! It is in your interest to read http://w3.shrimper.org.uk/ before posting to this address. |
In article k, {2003.07.03}
@shrimper.org.uk says... Dom Robinson wrote: In article , says... Tens of thousands of people in the U.K. need the sky platform to get good pictures and service, its a disgrace that because the BBC have gone free to air, no one will pick up the cost of viewing cards for the free channels, so sky use it as a stick to make you subscribe to get the free channels you are due to by right. If you feel like I do please contact your local ITV company at http://www.itv.com/ to complain. What are ITV going to do about it? They weren't paying anything towards the cards, and you could've saved yourself some keystrokes by simply typing itv.com itv.com is not recognised by my newsreader as a clickable link. http://www.itv.com is. So simply type itv.com. Placing links in a newsreader may be a necessity of it's a long link, but if it's difficult for you to simply type itv.com into a browser... -- Dom Robinson Gamertag: DVDfever email: dom at dvdfever dot co dot uk /* http://DVDfever.co.uk (editor) /* 940 DVDs, 259 games, 33 videos, 67 cinema films, 69 CDs, laserdiscs & news /* star trek nemesis, bringing down the house, phone booth, human nature "Organiser Eric Amy hit out today after just four people showed up for a public meeting to fight apathy in Dorchester" - Dorset Evening Echo |
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 13:04:57 +0100, (Luke
Bosman) wrote: itv.com is not recognised by my newsreader as a clickable link. http://www.itv.com is. In the olden days we used to have to open Mozilla and TYPE in the URL with our own little fingers. --Nick. -- http://www.blackstar.co.uk/scp/id/what - Want videos? Fax: +44 (0) 7974 984182 - icq: 9235201 - Hayn on dal |
I totally agree, but suspect that the government and Sky are co-operating to
hasten digital changeover by making analogue inaccessible. However, if you look at the Sky Digibox Terms and Conditions Section 3(a) it clearly states that if Sky - for security reasons - changes the card, they will send a new one before the old one becomes invalid. Would any lawyer estimate the chance of a successful breach of contract claim if Sky failed to meet this condition. Would the chances improve if 500,000 people got together to make the case? John Newell "James Brown" wrote in message ... Tens of thousands of people in the U.K. need the sky platform to get good pictures and service, its a disgrace that because the BBC have gone free to air, no one will pick up the cost of viewing cards for the free channels, so sky use it as a stick to make you subscribe to get the free channels you are due to by right. If you feel like I do please contact your local ITV company at http://www.itv.com/ to complain. |
Mike_C wrote:
SKY never issued any FTV cards to the public. They produced card in use today, bar none. They supplied the cards at the request and payment from the FTV organises (BBC, Ch4 and Five) and there was no contract between an individual and SKY. All my FTV cards came on a Sky backing paper that was covered with Sky legalese. This includes rules about where and how to use it, who it belongs to (Sky), what to do with it when it expires and how Sky would make every effort to supply me with a new one before the old one stops working. I'm still waiting for this. Ho-hum. -- Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these. The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/guiv How to get UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73 Fed up with logos / red buttons? : http://logofreetv.org/ BBC gone? : http://www.astra2d.co.uk/ ---- Only the truth as I see it. No monies return'd. ;-) |
Dom Robinson wrote:
In article k, {2003.07.03} @shrimper.org.uk says... Dom Robinson wrote: In article , says... If you feel like I do please contact your local ITV company at http://www.itv.com/ to complain. What are ITV going to do about it? They weren't paying anything towards the cards, and you could've saved yourself some keystrokes by simply typing itv.com itv.com is not recognised by my newsreader as a clickable link. http://www.itv.com is. So simply type itv.com. Placing links in a newsreader may be a necessity of it's a long link, but if it's difficult for you to simply type itv.com into a browser... It's not difficult at all. However, you brought up the issue of saving keystrokes. The way I see it, Tony Pannell was saving them for others. Get a grip Dom. Luke -- Spammers! It is in your interest to read http://w3.shrimper.org.uk/ before posting to this address. |
In article . uk, {2003.07.03}
@shrimper.org.uk says... Dom Robinson wrote: In article k, {2003.07.03} @shrimper.org.uk says... Dom Robinson wrote: In article , says... If you feel like I do please contact your local ITV company at http://www.itv.com/ to complain. What are ITV going to do about it? They weren't paying anything towards the cards, and you could've saved yourself some keystrokes by simply typing itv.com itv.com is not recognised by my newsreader as a clickable link. http://www.itv.com is. So simply type itv.com. Placing links in a newsreader may be a necessity of it's a long link, but if it's difficult for you to simply type itv.com into a browser... It's not difficult at all. However, you brought up the issue of saving keystrokes. The way I see it, Tony Pannell was saving them for others. Get a grip Dom. Ooh, get you, Mr Fountain-of-all-knowledge -- Dom Robinson Gamertag: DVDfever email: dom at dvdfever dot co dot uk /* http://DVDfever.co.uk (editor) /* 940 DVDs, 259 games, 33 videos, 67 cinema films, 69 CDs, laserdiscs & news /* star trek nemesis, bringing down the house, phone booth, human nature "Organiser Eric Amy hit out today after just four people showed up for a public meeting to fight apathy in Dorchester" - Dorset Evening Echo |
Dom Robinson wrote:
It's not difficult at all. However, you brought up the issue of saving keystrokes. The way I see it, Tony Pannell was saving them for others. Get a grip Dom. Ooh, get you, Mr Fountain-of-all-knowledge Dom, most of your contributions to this group are constructive. Right now, you're not being constructive, you're being pedantic. I've not claimed to be "Mr Fountain-of-all-knowledge". You, however, have attempted to attain those lofty heights with your recent posts to this thread. Cheers, Luke -- Spammers! It is in your interest to read http://w3.shrimper.org.uk/ before posting to this address. |
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