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NO LOGO July 10th 03 12:11 PM

July 10th - the day of reckoning
 

"Simon Gardner" [dot]co[dot]uk wrote in message
...
In article ,
Dom Robinson wrote:

So, has anyone with S1 or S2 cards lost the channels today?


Nobody is expecting to - for a couple more weeks at least.




Woke up this morning with this message on my Sky Box. The BBC is still
encrypted.

http://logofreetv.org/render.asp?mod...ews_read&i=126





Nigel Barker July 10th 03 02:09 PM

On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:11:14 +0000 (UTC), "NO LOGO"
wrote:


"Simon Gardner" [dot]co[dot]uk wrote in message
...
In article ,
Dom Robinson wrote:

So, has anyone with S1 or S2 cards lost the channels today?


Nobody is expecting to - for a couple more weeks at least.




Woke up this morning with this message on my Sky Box. The BBC is still
encrypted.

http://logofreetv.org/render.asp?mod...ews_read&i=126


I have had no such messages with my V1 FTV card (not an expired Sky card).

--
Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur

phil Hoggins July 10th 03 03:55 PM

I agree, but I have Tivo which is my main remote control and has a much
better EPG than SKY or Freeview put together.



Nigel Barker wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:38:09 +0100, phil Hoggins
wrote:


After suffering those on screen messages for the past few days, I
ditched my old sky box and v1 card (only used for FTV) and got a
freeview box, much faster, better services and much smaller box, which I



However there is a crappy EPG (just Now & Next) & the various remotes that I
have seen are all really naff compared to the Digibox one.

--
Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur



Dom Robinson July 10th 03 08:05 PM

In article ,
says...

"Simon Gardner" [dot]co[dot]uk wrote in message
...
In article ,
Dom Robinson wrote:

So, has anyone with S1 or S2 cards lost the channels today?


Nobody is expecting to - for a couple more weeks at least.




Woke up this morning with this message on my Sky Box. The BBC is still
encrypted.

http://logofreetv.org/render.asp?mod...ews_read&i=126

Anyone with a v2 card getting the same messages?
--

Dom Robinson Gamertag: DVDfever dom at dvdfever dot co dot uk
/* http://DVDfever.co.uk (editor)
/* 933 DVDs, 255 games, 33 videos, 63 cinema films, 69 CDs, laserdiscs & news
/* wild at heart, super monkey ball 2, 24, dan's movie digest, daredevil comp
TV Hates U: BBC2 & UK Gold: http://dvdfever.co.uk/pressrel/tvhatesu.shtml
Big Brother 4 - http://dvdfever.co.uk/reviews/bigbro4.shtml

NO LOGO July 10th 03 09:25 PM


"Dom Robinson" wrote in message
...
In article ,


says...

"Simon Gardner" [dot]co[dot]uk wrote in message
...
In article ,
Dom Robinson wrote:

So, has anyone with S1 or S2 cards lost the channels today?

Nobody is expecting to - for a couple more weeks at least.




Woke up this morning with this message on my Sky Box. The BBC is still
encrypted.

http://logofreetv.org/render.asp?mod...ews_read&i=126

Anyone with a v2 card getting the same messages?
--

Dom Robinson Gamertag: DVDfever dom at dvdfever dot co dot uk
/* http://DVDfever.co.uk (editor)
/* 933 DVDs, 255 games, 33 videos, 63 cinema films, 69 CDs, laserdiscs &

news
/* wild at heart, super monkey ball 2, 24, dan's movie digest, daredevil

comp
TV Hates U: BBC2 & UK Gold:

http://dvdfever.co.uk/pressrel/tvhatesu.shtml
Big Brother 4 - http://dvdfever.co.uk/reviews/bigbro4.shtml




Well, I've pulled the card out and abandoned the box for now.

Will use it to watch BBC on my Wega and for TCM, but it is no use to me with
messages like this popping up on screen or the imminent demise of FIVE via
FTV DSAT.

So Sky wants people to use FREEVIEW.... FREEVIEW we will use.

Nice knowing you Sky. Good bye. Good luck...


Previously, if you booted up the Sky box without a viewing card, you would
not get the full EPG.

Today, I booted up without the card, and I still get the full Sky EPG.





SKY - "A digital vision for everyone accept 560,000 FTV homes"



Jomtien July 11th 03 08:22 AM

Mark Carver wrote:

My *guess* is that V2 FTV cards will continue to decode ITV/4/5 until they
are replaced by V3 cards. This is also what the Beeb currently think.


Me2.

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/4f9c
How to get UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
Fed up with logos / red buttons? : http://logofreetv.org/
BBC gone? : http://www.astra2d.cjb.net/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

Ant July 11th 03 01:27 PM

On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 23:46:18 +0000, rnet[dot]co[dot]uk
(Simon Gardner) wrote:

SKY - "A digital vision for everyone accept 560,000 FTV homes"


I spoke to Matt Wells at the Grauniad about this today and have some hope a
story will appear shortly.


So that presumably would be this one:

http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcas...995806,00.html

"Sky is preparing to withdraw the three main commercial TV channels
from up to a million homes in a dispute that threatens the
government's digital broadcasting plans."

Clearly it's all Sky's fault, once again. That article then goes on to
imply that CNN and Turner Classic Movies were also decoded by the FTV
smartcard.



Gareth Kitchener July 11th 03 02:15 PM

Nigel Barker said:

Surely it is partially Sky's fault. They _are_ preparing to switch off FTV &
expired Sky cards that currently work. It seems like spite on their part for
having lost money from the BBC although as a well run business surely they
wouldn't be so petty. Why do they have to switch off the cards?


They are changing the encryption key in line with a card replacement
programme that has been ongoing for many months and planned for a long
time before that. The fact that the changeover to the new cards is
happening at the same time as the BBC's move to FTA is just
coincidence.... isn't it?



--
Gareth Kitchener
Bedfordshire, England
http://www.garethkitchener.org.uk

David Marshall July 11th 03 02:24 PM

In article ,
Nigel Barker wrote:
Surely it is partially Sky's fault. They _are_ preparing to switch off FTV &
expired Sky cards that currently work. It seems like spite on their part for
having lost money from the BBC although as a well run business surely they
wouldn't be so petty. Why do they have to switch off the cards?


They're not "switching off the cards" - they're stopping using the
encryption method that V1 cards can decode.

Dave
--
Email: MSN Messenger:

Nigel Barker July 11th 03 02:31 PM

On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:27:48 GMT, (Ant) wrote:

On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 23:46:18 +0000,
rnet[dot]co[dot]uk
(Simon Gardner) wrote:

SKY - "A digital vision for everyone accept 560,000 FTV homes"


I spoke to Matt Wells at the Grauniad about this today and have some hope a
story will appear shortly.


So that presumably would be this one:

http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcas...995806,00.html

"Sky is preparing to withdraw the three main commercial TV channels
from up to a million homes in a dispute that threatens the
government's digital broadcasting plans."

Clearly it's all Sky's fault, once again. That article then goes on to
imply that CNN and Turner Classic Movies were also decoded by the FTV
smartcard.


Surely it is partially Sky's fault. They _are_ preparing to switch off FTV &
expired Sky cards that currently work. It seems like spite on their part for
having lost money from the BBC although as a well run business surely they
wouldn't be so petty. Why do they have to switch off the cards?

--
Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur


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