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binbag December 9th 04 04:49 PM

Sky announce HDCP only Hi Def
 
High Definition TV news Posted Friday, December 3rd, 2004
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http://www.homecinemachoice.com/cgi-...ws.php?id=7231

Sky drops a high definition bombshell

"More news has reached us about Sky’s proposed launch of high definition
programming in 2006 – and what we’re hearing will send shockwaves throughout
the AV industry.

Some of the information BSkyB revealed during a recent presentation to the
Digital Interoperability Forum in Brussels seems pretty positive. For
instance, BSkyB apparently announced that its service and HDTV decoder box
will support BOTH 720p/50Hz AND 1080i/25Hz high definition formats, rather
than just going with 720p as was previously anticipated. The choice of which
HD format will be used for which HD programme is apparently going to be left
to the platform’s individual broadcasters.

However, it was when discussing how the HD signal would be delivered from
the Sky decoder box to a projector/plasma TV/LCD TV that the bombshell
emerged, as Sky stated that the vast majority of HDTV programming will only
be viewable if carried via HDMI or DVI connections that support the HDCP
digital rights protection system. In other words, if your projector or flat
panel screen only has component video inputs or an HDMI/DVI jack NOT
compatible with the HDCP system, it will not show the majority of Sky’s HD
services.

Sky has long been troubled by how to stop people copying its broadcasts
illegally, so perhaps we shouldn't be too surprised that it's jumping at the
chance to use HDCP. But the ramifications of the decision are huge for us
punters, as countless flat panel TVs and projectors that don’t have the
necessary digital connectivity are already proudly installed in people’s
homes, presenting the buyers with the nightmare scenario of having to
upgrade by 2006 a screen they thought would last them for many, many years.

There are also many screens/projectors in shops right now that don’t have
the necessary connectivity, so if you’re thinking of buying one for
Christmas – or whenever! – all we can do is stress in the strongest terms
that you try and choose one with an HDCP-compliant HDMI or DVI jack."

Theres an active thread on this at avforums.

binbag.






/\\/ / & E December 9th 04 05:03 PM


"binbag" wrote in message
...
High Definition TV news Posted Friday, December 3rd, 2004
Viewed 8336 times.
http://www.homecinemachoice.com/cgi-...ws.php?id=7231

Sky drops a high definition bombshell

"More news has reached us about Sky's proposed launch of high definition
programming in 2006 - and what we're hearing will send shockwaves
throughout
the AV industry.

Some of the information BSkyB revealed during a recent presentation to the
Digital Interoperability Forum in Brussels seems pretty positive. For
instance, BSkyB apparently announced that its service and HDTV decoder box
will support BOTH 720p/50Hz AND 1080i/25Hz high definition formats, rather
than just going with 720p as was previously anticipated. The choice of
which
HD format will be used for which HD programme is apparently going to be
left
to the platform's individual broadcasters.

However, it was when discussing how the HD signal would be delivered from
the Sky decoder box to a projector/plasma TV/LCD TV that the bombshell
emerged, as Sky stated that the vast majority of HDTV programming will
only
be viewable if carried via HDMI or DVI connections that support the HDCP
digital rights protection system. In other words, if your projector or
flat
panel screen only has component video inputs or an HDMI/DVI jack NOT
compatible with the HDCP system, it will not show the majority of Sky's HD
services.

Sky has long been troubled by how to stop people copying its broadcasts
illegally, so perhaps we shouldn't be too surprised that it's jumping at
the
chance to use HDCP. But the ramifications of the decision are huge for us
punters, as countless flat panel TVs and projectors that don't have the
necessary digital connectivity are already proudly installed in people's
homes, presenting the buyers with the nightmare scenario of having to
upgrade by 2006 a screen they thought would last them for many, many
years.

There are also many screens/projectors in shops right now that don't have
the necessary connectivity, so if you're thinking of buying one for
Christmas - or whenever! - all we can do is stress in the strongest terms
that you try and choose one with an HDCP-compliant HDMI or DVI jack."

Theres an active thread on this at avforums.

binbag.






**** the ******s then, they wont get **** all from me!

Nige



Gunther Gloop December 9th 04 05:37 PM

/\/ / & E wrote:
"binbag" wrote in message
...
High Definition TV news Posted Friday, December 3rd, 2004
Viewed 8336 times.
http://www.homecinemachoice.com/cgi-...ws.php?id=7231

Sky drops a high definition bombshell

**** the ******s then, they wont get **** all from me!


Me too. One thing is for certain -it'll be *decades* before every granny
will have a HDCP HD-capable screen. In the meantime, I bet SKY will be
charging exhorbitant fees for these broadcasts. Name your price!

I hope SKY falls on its head. I won't be watching (I rarely do anyway
though).

-Kevin.

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DAB sounds worse than FM December 9th 04 05:39 PM

binbag wrote:

Sky has long been troubled by how to stop people copying its
broadcasts illegally,



Why are they so bothered by this?



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Gunther Gloop December 9th 04 05:49 PM

DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
binbag wrote:

Sky has long been troubled by how to stop people copying its
broadcasts illegally,



Why are they so bothered by this?


They can charge more if it doesn't happen -and/or charge more again to
_allow_ people to be able to do it.

-Kevin.

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Rolo Tomassi December 9th 04 07:28 PM

DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
binbag wrote:

Sky has long been troubled by how to stop people copying its
broadcasts illegally,



Why are they so bothered by this?


Good question. Everything they broadcast is either crap or already out on
DVD. There'll be strippers any way.

Rolo



Mark Scott December 9th 04 07:30 PM

The ultimate telly for 2006 - http://tinyurl.com/66qbt

"binbag" wrote in message
...
High Definition TV news Posted Friday, December 3rd, 2004
Viewed 8336 times.
http://www.homecinemachoice.com/cgi-...ws.php?id=7231

Sky drops a high definition bombshell

"More news has reached us about Sky's proposed launch of high definition
programming in 2006 - and what we're hearing will send shockwaves
throughout
the AV industry.

Some of the information BSkyB revealed during a recent presentation to the
Digital Interoperability Forum in Brussels seems pretty positive. For
instance, BSkyB apparently announced that its service and HDTV decoder box
will support BOTH 720p/50Hz AND 1080i/25Hz high definition formats, rather
than just going with 720p as was previously anticipated. The choice of
which
HD format will be used for which HD programme is apparently going to be
left
to the platform's individual broadcasters.

However, it was when discussing how the HD signal would be delivered from
the Sky decoder box to a projector/plasma TV/LCD TV that the bombshell
emerged, as Sky stated that the vast majority of HDTV programming will
only
be viewable if carried via HDMI or DVI connections that support the HDCP
digital rights protection system. In other words, if your projector or
flat
panel screen only has component video inputs or an HDMI/DVI jack NOT
compatible with the HDCP system, it will not show the majority of Sky's HD
services.

Sky has long been troubled by how to stop people copying its broadcasts
illegally, so perhaps we shouldn't be too surprised that it's jumping at
the
chance to use HDCP. But the ramifications of the decision are huge for us
punters, as countless flat panel TVs and projectors that don't have the
necessary digital connectivity are already proudly installed in people's
homes, presenting the buyers with the nightmare scenario of having to
upgrade by 2006 a screen they thought would last them for many, many
years.

There are also many screens/projectors in shops right now that don't have
the necessary connectivity, so if you're thinking of buying one for
Christmas - or whenever! - all we can do is stress in the strongest terms
that you try and choose one with an HDCP-compliant HDMI or DVI jack."

Theres an active thread on this at avforums.

binbag.








-= December 9th 04 07:37 PM

Rolo Tomassi wrote:
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
binbag wrote:

Sky has long been troubled by how to stop people copying its
broadcasts illegally,



Why are they so bothered by this?


Good question. Everything they broadcast is either crap or already
out on DVD. There'll be strippers any way.


Well, I imagine there'll be "proxy" devices at least; HDCP works like a VPN.



Ben December 9th 04 08:16 PM

binbag wrote:
"More news has reached us about Sky’s proposed launch of high definition
programming in 2006 – and what we’re hearing will send shockwaves throughout
the AV industry.


They should have listened to me then - I've been saying this would
probably happen for the best part of a year now! Same with HD-DVD
players too.

Gary Lightfoot December 9th 04 08:26 PM

Mark Scott wrote:
The ultimate telly for 2006 - http://tinyurl.com/66qbt


I saw a 60inch Sony Hi Def tv (1080) playing in a Sony store today -
the source was a Blue Ray HD disk and the image was by far the best
I'd ever seen on a plasma. It was clear and sharp and the backgrounds
were clearer than anything I'd observed on any display.

Up till now plasmas I've seen are generaly low res and of poor
quality, but even from just a few feet away you couldn't really see
anything wrong with this display. £7500 though IIRC, but no doubt that
will come down in price too. I wonder if we'll see Hi Def CRT tvs?

Gary.




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