"5605" wrote in message
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On 2004-10-30 19:13:07 +0100, "Nath" said:

No, it's because UK owners for some reason restrict themselves to
stupidly small sets at large viewing distances, ie 14" at 20' away. And
this is supposed to be OK. A mate that's not into HT saw my 28"
widescreen TV and said "BLOODY HELL WHAT A BIG TV!!". Quite. And not
taking into account the general public have restrictions on AV gear.

But all you've done is prove my point - he said "bloody hell what a big
TV"

But once he watched a film he didn't say the TV/image was way too big. On
the contrary. He's got a 21" TV in a living room, then decided his TV is way
too small. He would never have known (stayed blissfully ignorant) if he
didn't see my TV, thinking that his 21" was good enough. It wasn't.

and he's indicative of the general public who buy 99% of all tvs and av
systems that are sold.

Again, the same thing for the audio system. "bloody hell what's all this
kit" until put on Das Boot. Gobsmacked. Couldn't go back to his TV speakers.
Again blissfully unaware, mainly because he didn't understand what each bit
does, and didn't like people with knowledge that he is has none of. btw he's
a Quantum Physicist, another with knowledge of Unix, yet I do not go all
moody that his knowledge of the subject is beyond my comprehension. But I
still take their advice/knowledge without trying to be a smart ass or say
"well that's just your opinion"

People make choices for a hundred and one different reasons -

They make choices until they've realized they've made the wrong choice. Just
would I if I compared to X I own to XY product I demo. Which I have in the
past (Yamaha AV amp v seperates, Arcam v Audiolab, Rotel v Lexicon, Rel v
SVS)

just because yours is different doesn't mean others' are wrong. At the end
of the day Nath - YOU ARE the general public. The fact that you blow your
load

whatever. Shows what you're thinking of at the moment.

dimensions doesn't make you special - except in the educationally
subnormal sense.

That I prefer higher-end kit?

Stop being such a HC fascist.

HC enthuasist.


I've used a 28" at 6' and that's OK..but a 28" in a small living room
with a 8'-9' distance is way too small -32" is a minimum, and with 8' or
higher 32" is just about OK but nothing brilliant.

Yet again you are stating an opinion, not a point of fact. This is simply
your opinion and nothing more. Nothing about your opinion makes it any
more, or less, valid than anyone else's. Wind your neck in for once.

If someone prefers shoes two sizes too small, does that make it OK? No,
they've made a wrong choice, as most people have no common sense or like to
be told why, and they need to be told otherwise. As the moron would wear
them anyway, as the majority of people have no common sense and need to be
told.

Another example is giving advice to people (ie do not buy a computer from
xxx) then they go ahead and buy it from there anyway. And start moaning the
computer crashes, found out I could have built better for cheaper, PC is a
POS and complain the PC help line staff are idiots.

Then came the "I told you so" which they do not like, thinking they're more
knowledgeable than a "expert"

You do seem to tar everyone that doesn't agree with your opnions as
"lifetstyle system" victims - why is that?

When you have to compromise on kit- for certain reasons, then obviously
you're making a compromise. Therefore from someone with less compormises &
knowledge of what happens when you do;you will not get the best kit if best
sound/picture is the desired conclusion to the purchase- it is THEIR problem
if they have to make a compromise, not mine. If they have to stick with a
Kef 2005 with Rel Quake then they have to accept that someone with Krell
poweramps and JM Lab Utopia will say what they have is a POS. If they
dislike the JM Lab owner for stating that or trying to elevate their own
gear (ie one Polk HTIB owner on avs who started attacking high end kit
owners) it is their problem and no amount of them saying "well that's just
your opinion" will change the FACT what they have is a POS compared to
person B.

Can't you just accept that one person's idea of HC is not necessarily the
same as someone else's?

Yes, but if someone has to limit themselves to small screen/shiity audio
system then they have to accept others with alternative "wiser" opinion with
past experience with the kit/image size that their's is probably wrong. It
is there decision whether to accept this or not. I state the "facts" as
facts, as that is what I know (so far), and it's upto them to them to find
out otherwise..

ie-
me : SVS subs are bloody brilliant..your Rel Quake is ****.
them: Hmm possibly...I'll check it out against my Rel Quake 40W.....right
you are.
etc.

or from my persective..
them.: SVS subs are crap...Dual Contrabasses are much better.
me: Hmm possibly...I'll check it out...(decision pending)
etc

and I would disagree with someone like this
them : SVS subs are crap.....Rel Storm is much better
me: you're talking crap- I own both.


You bang on about SVS subs and RPTVs but some of us get an equally
involving experience using kit that YOU DON'T OWN.

Equally involving experience?
A)With good quality gear?
B) With better quality gear?
B)With POS gear?

If it's A or B with other similar good quality gear then yes, or undoubtly.
If it's C then you're blissfully ignorent, or have no clue what is good nor
like others slamming your level of kit. I notice that all the time, people
like to pretend what they have is the best ever, yet do not like it when
someone else comes along with better gear (ie a Ferrari owner against a Ford
owner). There is always someone with better gear then you, if their opinion
of your **** Ford is not to your liking, grow a ****ing spine and accept
what you have IS A POS! Stop whinging with this modern PC-I'll sue you type
of modern society- and accept it.

Tell you what, go to the American forums and ask what is a good display for
a certain distance, for films and normal TV watching I'm sure they will
disagree with 21" @ 8' especially for films.

lol gotta love the people on the UK NG- most are stuck in this age..

http://www.ipct.pucrs.br/labcom/old_tv_set_rc.jpg

Nath wrote:
Tell you what, go to the American forums and ask what is a good
display for a certain distance, for films and normal TV watching I'm
sure they will disagree with 21" @ 8' especially for films.

So you snip the entire previous post and don't respond to any of the
comments and questions.
Instead your whole argument comes down to "the americans told me to do it".
Thats a country who think that you need a 5 litre engine and a car the size
of a house or you aren't a real man.

Oh , and where do you get the 21" at 8 feet from?
Thats not what anyone here was suggesting.

lol gotta love the people on the UK NG- most are stuck in this age..

you are a complete ****ing idiot
--
Alex

"We are now up against live, hostile targets"

"So, if Little Red Riding Hood should show up with a bazooka and a bad
attitude, I expect you to chin the bitch! "

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Nath wrote:
snip utter drivel

You know I don't think I've seen this much bull**** since Nick LeLievre was
around
--
Alex

"We are now up against live, hostile targets"

"So, if Little Red Riding Hood should show up with a bazooka and a bad
attitude, I expect you to chin the bitch! "

www.drzoidberg.co.uk
www.ebayfaq.co.uk

At least I don't have a PC-Mame-Arcade machine in the kitchen. And wear
sleeveless t-shirts.

What a ****ing loser.

Nath wrote:
No, it's because UK owners for some reason restrict themselves to
stupidly small sets at large viewing distances, ie 14" at 20' away.
And this is supposed to be OK. A mate that's not into HT saw my 28"
widescreen TV and said "BLOODY HELL WHAT A BIG TV!!". Quite. And not
taking into account the general public have restrictions on AV gear.

I've used a 28" at 6' and that's OK..but a 28" in a small living room
with a 8'-9' distance is way too small -32" is a minimum, and with 8'
or higher 32" is just about OK but nothing brilliant.

I speak my mind, and do not sway to the general populace or other
people on this NG who prefer "lifestyle" type audio/video systems.

what about a sub for the bedroom?

i was thinking of an SVS, but that'd be overkill, surely?

Nath wrote:
At least I don't have a PC-Mame-Arcade machine in the kitchen. And
wear sleeveless t-shirts.

What a ****ing loser.

yes, you are

Dr Zoidberg wrote:
Nath wrote:
Tell you what, go to the American forums and ask what is a good
display for a certain distance, for films and normal TV watching I'm
sure they will disagree with 21" @ 8' especially for films.

So you snip the entire previous post and don't respond to any of the
comments and questions.
Instead your whole argument comes down to "the americans told me to
do it". Thats a country who think that you need a 5 litre engine and
a car the size of a house or you aren't a real man.

Oh , and where do you get the 21" at 8 feet from?
Thats not what anyone here was suggesting.

lol gotta love the people on the UK NG- most are stuck in this age..

you are a complete ****ing idiot

i bet he's never done any ****ing in his life!

he's a ****ing complete idiot, though ;-)

"Kez" wrote in message
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Nath wrote:
At least I don't have a PC-Mame-Arcade machine in the kitchen. And
wear sleeveless t-shirts.

What a ****ing loser.

yes, you are


How appropriate. You fight like a cow. :-D

On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 19:49:59 +0100, the dog from that film you saw
wrote:


that's just an opinion though - a 28" lcd is the equivalent of a 30" CRT and
my parents are happy with a 28" crt in their decent sized living room.
they even said maybe it was too big at first.

after discussion with partner last night we're going for 26"

any recommendations at this size?


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