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abc September 20th 04 12:32 AM

sky digibox picture on projector... awful
 
anyone know why?
i am viewing on an x1 ... the image is incredible when using the laptop, i
can see how amazing the projector is...
i am using a scarts-video convertor from the digibox, and the picture is
really bad...
anyway to make it better.?



abc September 20th 04 11:23 AM


"Nick Webster" wrote in message
. ..
In article , says...

anyone know why?
i am viewing on an x1 ... the image is incredible when using the laptop,
i
can see how amazing the projector is...
i am using a scarts-video convertor from the digibox, and the picture is
really bad...
anyway to make it better.?


When you say 'really bad' what do you mean? Artifacts? What size is
the screen? Is it 'rally bad' on all channels?


colours are really faded, on pretty much all the channels...
also, when you get scrolling text it is 'fuzzy' and usually unreadable.
i knew digital tv was rubbish, but a projector really highlights it!

My projector show up some hideous stuff on Sky (s-video), but some
channels are much better/worse than others.


how are you doing the s-video - is it direct out of the box, or via a scart
adaptor?

Regards.
--
Nick Webster




abc September 20th 04 11:23 AM


"Nick Webster" wrote in message
. ..
In article , says...

anyone know why?
i am viewing on an x1 ... the image is incredible when using the laptop,
i
can see how amazing the projector is...
i am using a scarts-video convertor from the digibox, and the picture is
really bad...
anyway to make it better.?


When you say 'really bad' what do you mean? Artifacts? What size is
the screen? Is it 'rally bad' on all channels?


colours are really faded, on pretty much all the channels...
also, when you get scrolling text it is 'fuzzy' and usually unreadable.
i knew digital tv was rubbish, but a projector really highlights it!

My projector show up some hideous stuff on Sky (s-video), but some
channels are much better/worse than others.


how are you doing the s-video - is it direct out of the box, or via a scart
adaptor?

Regards.
--
Nick Webster




abc September 20th 04 01:29 PM


"Nick Webster" wrote in message
. ..
In article , says...

colours are really faded, on pretty much all the channels...
also, when you get scrolling text it is 'fuzzy' and usually unreadable.
i knew digital tv was rubbish, but a projector really highlights it!


Text can be a bit fuzzy, but I can't say I've noticed it being really
hideous.

how are you doing the s-video - is it direct out of the box, or via a
scart
adaptor?


Straight from s-video out on the box to the projector (not via scart).


hmmm my box doesnt have s-video out... i have to use an adaptor - could that
be the problem?



abc September 20th 04 01:29 PM


"Nick Webster" wrote in message
. ..
In article , says...

colours are really faded, on pretty much all the channels...
also, when you get scrolling text it is 'fuzzy' and usually unreadable.
i knew digital tv was rubbish, but a projector really highlights it!


Text can be a bit fuzzy, but I can't say I've noticed it being really
hideous.

how are you doing the s-video - is it direct out of the box, or via a
scart
adaptor?


Straight from s-video out on the box to the projector (not via scart).


hmmm my box doesnt have s-video out... i have to use an adaptor - could that
be the problem?



Nigel Barker September 20th 04 02:44 PM

On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 23:32:25 +0100, "abc" wrote:

anyone know why?
i am viewing on an x1 ... the image is incredible when using the laptop, i
can see how amazing the projector is...
i am using a scarts-video convertor from the digibox, and the picture is
really bad...
anyway to make it better.?


What brand of SCART to s-video convertor are you using?

--
Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur

Nigel Barker September 20th 04 02:44 PM

On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 23:32:25 +0100, "abc" wrote:

anyone know why?
i am viewing on an x1 ... the image is incredible when using the laptop, i
can see how amazing the projector is...
i am using a scarts-video convertor from the digibox, and the picture is
really bad...
anyway to make it better.?


What brand of SCART to s-video convertor are you using?

--
Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur

Aidan Sherwin September 20th 04 06:09 PM


I also have an X1, and you're right, the setup you describe is very poor.

I did a little bit of research and got an RGB to component convertor
from Keane electronics

APTUS1 RGB TO COMPONENT CONVERTOR; Ref : APT1 80 sterling

you also need a special adaptor, component to (special) s-video, this
connects to the s-video port on the X1 but it carries the full component
picture quality. I got this from www.bhpphotovideo.com for about 15 dollars

The difference is only amazing - especially for footie and SKY movies..


While you're at it you should also get a component to vga adaptor from
bhp - get a DVD player that supports component out with progressive scan
adaptor - about 15 dollars
dvd player 50 sterling and up

You will now be using the best inputs on the X1 - as you saw when you
had the laptop connected - it is an excellent projector.

All the best

Aidan S

abc wrote:
anyone know why?
i am viewing on an x1 ... the image is incredible when using the laptop, i
can see how amazing the projector is...
i am using a scarts-video convertor from the digibox, and the picture is
really bad...
anyway to make it better.?



Aidan Sherwin September 20th 04 06:09 PM


I also have an X1, and you're right, the setup you describe is very poor.

I did a little bit of research and got an RGB to component convertor
from Keane electronics

APTUS1 RGB TO COMPONENT CONVERTOR; Ref : APT1 80 sterling

you also need a special adaptor, component to (special) s-video, this
connects to the s-video port on the X1 but it carries the full component
picture quality. I got this from www.bhpphotovideo.com for about 15 dollars

The difference is only amazing - especially for footie and SKY movies..


While you're at it you should also get a component to vga adaptor from
bhp - get a DVD player that supports component out with progressive scan
adaptor - about 15 dollars
dvd player 50 sterling and up

You will now be using the best inputs on the X1 - as you saw when you
had the laptop connected - it is an excellent projector.

All the best

Aidan S

abc wrote:
anyone know why?
i am viewing on an x1 ... the image is incredible when using the laptop, i
can see how amazing the projector is...
i am using a scarts-video convertor from the digibox, and the picture is
really bad...
anyway to make it better.?



abc September 21st 04 12:56 AM


"Nigel Barker" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 23:32:25 +0100, "abc" wrote:

anyone know why?
i am viewing on an x1 ... the image is incredible when using the laptop, i
can see how amazing the projector is...
i am using a scarts-video convertor from the digibox, and the picture is
really bad...
anyway to make it better.?


What brand of SCART to s-video convertor are you using?

--
Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur


its just a generic one, cost about £5



abc September 21st 04 12:56 AM


"Nigel Barker" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 23:32:25 +0100, "abc" wrote:

anyone know why?
i am viewing on an x1 ... the image is incredible when using the laptop, i
can see how amazing the projector is...
i am using a scarts-video convertor from the digibox, and the picture is
really bad...
anyway to make it better.?


What brand of SCART to s-video convertor are you using?

--
Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur


its just a generic one, cost about £5



Nigel Barker September 21st 04 12:05 PM

On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 23:56:37 +0100, "abc" wrote:


"Nigel Barker" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 23:32:25 +0100, "abc" wrote:

anyone know why?
i am viewing on an x1 ... the image is incredible when using the laptop, i
can see how amazing the projector is...
i am using a scarts-video convertor from the digibox, and the picture is
really bad...
anyway to make it better.?


What brand of SCART to s-video convertor are you using?

--
Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur


its just a generic one, cost about £5

That's your problem. You are _not_ converting RGB to s-video. Your digibox does
not deliver s-video on the SCART. You are just delivering composite to your
projector. What you need is a proper RGB to s-video convertor or better still an
RGB to VGA convertor. These cost 50-100 pounds.

--
Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur

Nigel Barker September 21st 04 12:05 PM

On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 23:56:37 +0100, "abc" wrote:


"Nigel Barker" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 23:32:25 +0100, "abc" wrote:

anyone know why?
i am viewing on an x1 ... the image is incredible when using the laptop, i
can see how amazing the projector is...
i am using a scarts-video convertor from the digibox, and the picture is
really bad...
anyway to make it better.?


What brand of SCART to s-video convertor are you using?

--
Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur


its just a generic one, cost about £5

That's your problem. You are _not_ converting RGB to s-video. Your digibox does
not deliver s-video on the SCART. You are just delivering composite to your
projector. What you need is a proper RGB to s-video convertor or better still an
RGB to VGA convertor. These cost 50-100 pounds.

--
Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur

abc September 21st 04 04:20 PM


"Nigel Barker" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 23:56:37 +0100, "abc" wrote:


"Nigel Barker" wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 23:32:25 +0100, "abc" wrote:

anyone know why?
i am viewing on an x1 ... the image is incredible when using the laptop,
i
can see how amazing the projector is...
i am using a scarts-video convertor from the digibox, and the picture
is
really bad...
anyway to make it better.?


What brand of SCART to s-video convertor are you using?

--
Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur


its just a generic one, cost about £5

That's your problem. You are _not_ converting RGB to s-video. Your digibox
does
not deliver s-video on the SCART. You are just delivering composite to
your
projector. What you need is a proper RGB to s-video convertor or better
still an
RGB to VGA convertor. These cost 50-100 pounds.


would this work?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...sPageName=WDVW



abc September 21st 04 04:20 PM


"Nigel Barker" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 23:56:37 +0100, "abc" wrote:


"Nigel Barker" wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 23:32:25 +0100, "abc" wrote:

anyone know why?
i am viewing on an x1 ... the image is incredible when using the laptop,
i
can see how amazing the projector is...
i am using a scarts-video convertor from the digibox, and the picture
is
really bad...
anyway to make it better.?


What brand of SCART to s-video convertor are you using?

--
Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur


its just a generic one, cost about £5

That's your problem. You are _not_ converting RGB to s-video. Your digibox
does
not deliver s-video on the SCART. You are just delivering composite to
your
projector. What you need is a proper RGB to s-video convertor or better
still an
RGB to VGA convertor. These cost 50-100 pounds.


would this work?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...sPageName=WDVW



abc September 21st 04 05:21 PM


"Nick Webster" wrote in message
. ..
In article , says...

would this work?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...sPageName=WDVW

Probably, if it does what it says. However, I have no idea of the
conversion quality (it doesn't 'look' that great).

What I do know is that you are taking the best signal the Sky box can
produce (RGB) and down-converting it (S-Video). You would be much
better up-converting RGB to component.

HTH.


cheers nick. i suppose what i want is to improve the picture, but not spend
too much - the rgb to component lead is very expensive. if i can get a
noticeable improvement for about £20 that would do me!
i suppose its impossible to tell if this particular box is using the 'true'
s-video capability on the projector? maybe its just sending composite?



abc September 21st 04 05:21 PM


"Nick Webster" wrote in message
. ..
In article , says...

would this work?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...sPageName=WDVW

Probably, if it does what it says. However, I have no idea of the
conversion quality (it doesn't 'look' that great).

What I do know is that you are taking the best signal the Sky box can
produce (RGB) and down-converting it (S-Video). You would be much
better up-converting RGB to component.

HTH.


cheers nick. i suppose what i want is to improve the picture, but not spend
too much - the rgb to component lead is very expensive. if i can get a
noticeable improvement for about £20 that would do me!
i suppose its impossible to tell if this particular box is using the 'true'
s-video capability on the projector? maybe its just sending composite?




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