In on 20/03/2004 23:51
Nath stared into the abyss, and the abyss said:

"Patrick Navin" wrote in
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and
decided on a REL Storm.

Got one, very good subwoofer but unsuitable for high output, low
frequency handling, and for action films (put on Titan AE and watch
the driver practically destroy itself). Port noise, distortion and
driver flapping is audible (and annoying) if you push it. It can't
fill the room at reference levels (calibrated)


what utter ****e. Unless you live in a detched house 3 miles away from
anyone else there's no way on earht you'll be listening at 'reference
levels' anyway. If you're 'pushing' your kit you're an amateur and have
it set up wrong. you don't half talk utter cack


99% of the time it's good enough for other DVD's though.

Good you've bought some stuff- :-) but I thought you were getting out
of HT for a while?

**** off you toad

--
Patrick

Your friendly neighbourhood Trendy Uncle

what utter ****e. Unless you live in a detched house 3 miles away from
anyone else there's no way on earht you'll be listening at 'reference
levels' anyway. If you're 'pushing' your kit you're an amateur and have
it set up wrong. you don't half talk utter cack

85dB to 7.0 speakers, 82dB on subwoofer. -20 on the display (so 10dB under
reference) Subwoofer peak limitor disabled, default settings for L7/DD/DTS
etc. Putting on Titan AE, Toy Story 2 intro makes make quickly reduce volume
because of the nasty noises emitaing from the subwoofer (not quite bottoming
out, but sounding bad) can tell it's near the limit. I'm not stupid enough
to set it to 00dB ;-)

SVS handles identical setup & DVD titles better and even +10dB hot with
ease.


99% of the time it's good enough for other DVD's though.

Good you've bought some stuff- :-) but I thought you were getting out
of HT for a while?

**** off you toad


Was there any need for that?

" I'm not stupid enough to set it to 00dB ;-)"

Whoops meant -10dB (reference)

In article ,
says...
what utter ****e. Unless you live in a detched house 3 miles away from
anyone else there's no way on earht you'll be listening at 'reference
levels' anyway. If you're 'pushing' your kit you're an amateur and have
it set up wrong. you don't half talk utter cack

85dB to 7.0 speakers, 82dB on subwoofer. -20 on the display (so 10dB under
reference) Subwoofer peak limitor disabled, default settings for L7/DD/DTS
etc. Putting on Titan AE, Toy Story 2 intro makes make quickly reduce volume
because of the nasty noises emitaing from the subwoofer (not quite bottoming
out, but sounding bad) can tell it's near the limit. I'm not stupid enough
to set it to 00dB ;-)

SVS handles identical setup & DVD titles better and even +10dB hot with
ease.


Who gives a **** what the numbers are? You are a TOTAL TOOL - you don't
listen to bass extension or frequency response you listen to the
soundtrack. You know absolutely **** ALL about hifi because you have NO
CLUE how to use it. You are the dimmest **** I have ever had the
misfortune to encounter on Usenet.

Figures are specious information designed for anal retentives. The ONLY
relevant test is whether or not the unit sounds good to its intended
audience. After all a Ford Cosworth Sierra is faster than a Merceded
CL320 but which one would you go to work in?

If all you care about is the figures of your sub then you are simply a
****. You don't know how to evaluate music or movies as a listener or
viewer - you're so caught up with proving your sub's supposed
superiority (it's only as good as any other sub in its price range
anyway) that you don't even listen to the music or soundtrack. you're a
****ing tool




99% of the time it's good enough for other DVD's though.

Good you've bought some stuff- :-) but I thought you were getting out
of HT for a while?

**** off you toad


Was there any need for that?


Every need for it you stupid ****. You slag off everyone's gear then
toady up when people prove you worng. You're the most immature
****kicker ever to grace this group - and there have been a fiar few.
Get a life, get a girlfriend, buy a house and stop living in fantasy
land.

P.

85dB to 7.0 speakers, 82dB on subwoofer. -20 on the display (so 10dB
under
reference) Subwoofer peak limitor disabled, default settings for
L7/DD/DTS
etc. Putting on Titan AE, Toy Story 2 intro makes make quickly reduce
volume
because of the nasty noises emitaing from the subwoofer (not quite
bottoming
out, but sounding bad) can tell it's near the limit. I'm not stupid
enough
to set it to 00dB ;-)

SVS handles identical setup & DVD titles better and even +10dB hot with
ease.


Who gives a **** what the numbers are? You are a TOTAL TOOL - you don't
listen to bass extension or frequency response you listen to the
soundtrack. You know absolutely **** ALL about hifi because you have NO
CLUE how to use it. You are the dimmest **** I have ever had the
\ misfortune to encounter on Usenet.

So you've bought a 5.1/7.1 system and you're not going to use a radio shack
meter to get the exact channel levels per speaker correct? lol.
Go ahead and do it by ear- some people can (although a few dB out)


Figures are specious information designed for anal retentives. The ONLY
relevant test is whether or not the unit sounds good to its intended
audience. After all a Ford Cosworth Sierra is faster than a Merceded
CL320 but which one would you go to work in?

I'm not talking about "what's good" or not I'M TALKING ABOUT SETTING THE
REFERENCE/CALIBRATION. Read up on that before hitting the reply button.


(snip rest of bull****)

Regarding the SVS..

Which model varient was it? (16,20,25)
How many port plugs were used?
What was the SS filter set to?
What was the crossover dial & switch set to?
What was the connecting equipment, crossover main speakers, subwoofer set
to?
Where did you hear one going?

Also include picture of the SVS, as I do not believe you heard one going,
and just trolling.

"Kurt Hamster" wrote in message
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On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 12:16:59 -0000, Nath used
to say...

Regarding the SVS..

Which model varient was it? (16,20,25)
How many port plugs were used?
What was the SS filter set to?
What was the crossover dial & switch set to?
What was the connecting equipment, crossover main speakers, subwoofer set
to?
Where did you hear one going?

The above proves Patrick's point admirably.

Not one single question relating to the actual sound quality.

Well since he's the one complaining of the SQ, how can I ask otherwise?

If the subwoofer was setup incorrectly it would not sound it's best. But I
guess whatever you do to your **** subwoofer will sound bad anyway, so try
and put other people's items down. Love that mid-woofer you have.

Also include picture of the SVS, as I do not believe you heard one going,
and just trolling.

Go to NYC and take a pic of an SVS? I think you need help Nath.

I guess since he's probably visiting the crack houses he didn't want to
carry a camera.

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says...
Regarding the SVS..

Which model varient was it? (16,20,25)

a 20 and a 25
How many port plugs were used?

**** knows - like I care or it makes a blind bit of difference

What was the SS filter set to?

No idea - couldn't care less
What was the crossover dial & switch set to?

no idea, couldn't care less

What was the connecting equipment, crossover main speakers, subwoofer set
to?

no idea, couldn't care less

Where did you hear one going?

My friends apartment overlooking Central Park (the 20) and the same
friends house in the Hamptons (the 25)

Also include picture of the SVS, as I do not believe you heard one going,
and just trolling.

I'm not in the habit of photographing my friends' hifi gear, nor gear I
audition in stores you ****ing weirdo.

None of those settings make a blind bit of difference - I'm sure my
friend (who designs pre/pros and subwoofers for a company not disimilar
to SVS in the US) had them set up correctly. I didn't like the sound of
the SVS - doesn't mean they are crap but proves the point that it's all
subjective.

I note you never once asked about listening material or listening
experience because you're an idiot who knows **** all.

P.

In article ,
says...


So you've bought a 5.1/7.1 system and you're not going to use a radio shack
meter to get the exact channel levels per speaker correct? lol.
Go ahead and do it by ear- some people can (although a few dB out)

I've never used a meter to set up a surround sound system. A meter may
get it to reference levels, my ears get it to the sound I like -
ultimately on my system that's all that mattters - you're never gonna
hear it so don't ****ing worry your tiny little brain about it.


I'm not talking about "what's good" or not I'M TALKING ABOUT SETTING THE
REFERENCE/CALIBRATION. Read up on that before hitting the reply button.

you're talking figures as if they have any bearing on the listening
experience - you are completely unable to make any kind of subjective
judgement on aound quality without resorting to numbers - this makes you
a total ****.

I don't need to read up on reference/calibration as it has precisely
zero value to the subjective listening experience


(snip rest of bull****)

always easy to snip what proves you wrong. now do tell us the story of
the Apex DVD player you saw catch fire and the day you managed to get a
PC graphics card to work in a B&W G3 Powermac - we're all in need of
some modern miracle stories.

P.

In article , says...
On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 12:16:59 -0000, Nath used
to say...

Regarding the SVS..

Which model varient was it? (16,20,25)
How many port plugs were used?
What was the SS filter set to?
What was the crossover dial & switch set to?
What was the connecting equipment, crossover main speakers, subwoofer set
to?
Where did you hear one going?

The above proves Patrick's point admirably.

Not one single question relating to the actual sound quality.

or source or source software... he's a prick


Also include picture of the SVS, as I do not believe you heard one going,
and just trolling.

Go to NYC and take a pic of an SVS? I think you need help Nath.


Kurt next time I'm in Manchester can I photograph your Naim gear so I
can rub off on it later? ;-)

What a tool our Nath is!

P.