Question on New Install (Replacement really)
 

I purchased a DirectTIVO unit (Hughes). I deactivated the receiver it
replaced, but would like to be able to reactivate if I can get the wiring
problem down.


Before I had the cable from the dish going to the receiver, then an output
on the that sent the signal to a splitter so the signal could go to each of
my kids (2) rooms. Of course they had to agree on what they would look at
and if I was watching anything, they had to watch that.

So my question is if I split the SAT cable signal before it gets to my
receiver and then loop back to the splitter going to the kids room, and use
and activate the old receiver, a)will it work this way and b) will I degrade
the signal so much that it won't work anywhere?? Any other suggestions. My
dish is an oval dish with 3 LNB's (local channels) and I really want to
avoid any new cable runs. Thoughts??

David

David Nelms wrote:
Before I had the cable from the dish going to the receiver, then an output
on the that sent the signal to a splitter so the signal could go to each of
my kids (2) rooms. Of course they had to agree on what they would look at
and if I was watching anything, they had to watch that.

Standard RF splits nicely. I've done that for a long time.

So my question is if I split the SAT cable signal before it gets to my

SAT cable doesn't split. At least not cheaply.

avoid any new cable runs. Thoughts??

Too bad. Can't do that.

For your Tivo, you _really_ want two satellite feeds, to take advantage of
the dual tuners.



You need a separate satellite cable to the old receiver in order for it to
function. You can probably use the existing cable, but it needs to have
satellite signal on it. That would also lose the RF signal to the second set,
but maybe some rearrangement would work out.

I would run satellite cable from the dish to the old receiver/new spot, and
two satellite cables to the DTivo. In my house, I used some existing RF
cable to get the satellite signal to a second TV, and used existing RF
cable to feed the DTivo signal to another set, both by rearranging the
cables at a splitter box in the attic and adding as little new cable
as possible.

Avoiding as much cable pulling as possible, imagining your layout...
(I don't know if a remotely located multiswitch will work with your
"third LNB" locals. My locals are at the main satellite location.)

Bring two lines from the sat to the back of the set where the DTivo is.
Add a multiswitch there, feeding two outputs to the DTivo, and one
onto the existing RF cable toward the old receiver. (This cable is
now satellite signal, not RF.) Wherever the current RF splitter is,
put a straight-through barrel connector to feed a satellite signal to
the old receiver/new spot. From the RF out of the old receiver, cable
to the third TV, splitting if necessary to feed RF into the second TV.

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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8-122.5

Thanks... any recommendations on brand of multiswitch??

David

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David Nelms wrote:
Before I had the cable from the dish going to the receiver, then an
output
on the that sent the signal to a splitter so the signal could go to each
of
my kids (2) rooms. Of course they had to agree on what they would look
at
and if I was watching anything, they had to watch that.

Standard RF splits nicely. I've done that for a long time.

So my question is if I split the SAT cable signal before it gets to my

SAT cable doesn't split. At least not cheaply.

avoid any new cable runs. Thoughts??

Too bad. Can't do that.

For your Tivo, you _really_ want two satellite feeds, to take advantage of
the dual tuners.



You need a separate satellite cable to the old receiver in order for it to
function. You can probably use the existing cable, but it needs to have
satellite signal on it. That would also lose the RF signal to the second
set,
but maybe some rearrangement would work out.

I would run satellite cable from the dish to the old receiver/new spot,
and
two satellite cables to the DTivo. In my house, I used some existing RF
cable to get the satellite signal to a second TV, and used existing RF
cable to feed the DTivo signal to another set, both by rearranging the
cables at a splitter box in the attic and adding as little new cable
as possible.

Avoiding as much cable pulling as possible, imagining your layout...
(I don't know if a remotely located multiswitch will work with your
"third LNB" locals. My locals are at the main satellite location.)

Bring two lines from the sat to the back of the set where the DTivo is.
Add a multiswitch there, feeding two outputs to the DTivo, and one
onto the existing RF cable toward the old receiver. (This cable is
now satellite signal, not RF.) Wherever the current RF splitter is,
put a straight-through barrel connector to feed a satellite signal to
the old receiver/new spot. From the RF out of the old receiver, cable
to the third TV, splitting if necessary to feed RF into the second TV.

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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8-122.5

Making sure I got this right, the 2 SAT cables would go to the DirectTIVO
first OR to the multi-switch with those 2 cables being input and then run
output cables to the DirectTivo and to the old reciever,??




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David Nelms wrote:
Before I had the cable from the dish going to the receiver, then an
output
on the that sent the signal to a splitter so the signal could go to each
of
my kids (2) rooms. Of course they had to agree on what they would look
at
and if I was watching anything, they had to watch that.

Standard RF splits nicely. I've done that for a long time.

So my question is if I split the SAT cable signal before it gets to my

SAT cable doesn't split. At least not cheaply.

avoid any new cable runs. Thoughts??

Too bad. Can't do that.

For your Tivo, you _really_ want two satellite feeds, to take advantage of
the dual tuners.



You need a separate satellite cable to the old receiver in order for it to
function. You can probably use the existing cable, but it needs to have
satellite signal on it. That would also lose the RF signal to the second
set,
but maybe some rearrangement would work out.

I would run satellite cable from the dish to the old receiver/new spot,
and
two satellite cables to the DTivo. In my house, I used some existing RF
cable to get the satellite signal to a second TV, and used existing RF
cable to feed the DTivo signal to another set, both by rearranging the
cables at a splitter box in the attic and adding as little new cable
as possible.

Avoiding as much cable pulling as possible, imagining your layout...
(I don't know if a remotely located multiswitch will work with your
"third LNB" locals. My locals are at the main satellite location.)

Bring two lines from the sat to the back of the set where the DTivo is.
Add a multiswitch there, feeding two outputs to the DTivo, and one
onto the existing RF cable toward the old receiver. (This cable is
now satellite signal, not RF.) Wherever the current RF splitter is,
put a straight-through barrel connector to feed a satellite signal to
the old receiver/new spot. From the RF out of the old receiver, cable
to the third TV, splitting if necessary to feed RF into the second TV.

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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8-122.5

If your kids room has any cable outlet, and your location for TIVO
also has cable outlet, if there only one plug, you need to run a new
cable from somewhere to make it two. assume you has two and kids
rooms also has, you can run the cable from dish to attic or cable box
if you has one in the house, connect the two cable to the multiswitch
and find where the other cables to those rooms. make a connection and
you are going.

David Nelms wrote:
Making sure I got this right, the 2 SAT cables would go to the DirectTIVO
first OR to the multi-switch with those 2 cables being input and then run
output cables to the DirectTivo and to the old reciever,??

The Tivo requires access and control to two complete satellite signals.
A standard receiver needs access and control to one satellite signal cable.
Access can be provided by your old fashioned splitter, but that doesn't
help because control is needed.

A multiswitch controls its own inputs, selecting each of the possible
signal sources onto its inputs, so it must have unrestricted access
and control. On its outputs, it allows incoming control signals
to select among the signals it has available, making any one of the
available input signals appear on any or all of its output connectors.

The triple-LNB dishes have a multiswitch built in, and present
outputs that allow full selection control.

I have a TERK BMS-34 that is suitable for a single satellite setup
like mine, but you have a triple LNB, so this multiswitch wouldn't work
for you.
http://www.terk.com/pdfs/BMS34.pdf The 3in-4out multiswitch.

Because of your triple LNB, and the multiswitch that exists at the dish, I
think you need two separate cable runs from the dish to your DTivo, and a
run from the dish to your relocated standard receiver.

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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8-122.5