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Cobra October 3rd 03 02:07 AM

How can I connect my DVR510 to my computer?
 
I would like to connect my DVR510 to my computer so I could burn
movies onto DVD's. I have an open expansion slot and a phone line
connection.

Any suggestions or better ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

Rollo Tomasi October 5th 03 02:18 AM

On 2 Oct 2003 17:07:21 -0700, (Cobra) wrote:

I would like to connect my DVR510 to my computer so I could burn
movies onto DVD's. I have an open expansion slot and a phone line
connection.

Any suggestions or better ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance!


Get a VIVO [video-in-video-out] card. You will also need software to
record [possibly Windows Movie Maker or other 3rd party software].

I've not done this myself but have been looking into it as well.

Here's a link that explains. See also the link on this page regarding
recording the audio.

http://www.ati.com/support/connector...ideoinput.html

Rollo


Christopher D. Heer October 5th 03 08:25 PM

On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 19:18:17 -0500, Rollo Tomasi
wrote:

On 2 Oct 2003 17:07:21 -0700, (Cobra) wrote:


I would like to connect my DVR510 to my computer so I could burn
movies onto DVD's. I have an open expansion slot and a phone line
connection.


Get a VIVO [video-in-video-out] card. You will also need software to
record [possibly Windows Movie Maker or other 3rd party software].

I've not done this myself but have been looking into it as well.


Take a gander over at rec.video.desktop for a lot of useful
information.

Basically, you have the following options:

1) Connect an external device to either a firewire (1394) port or USB
(preferrably 2.0) port. Such a device would have analog video
inputs (RCA plugs, and possibly S-Video). You could connect your
DVR to this and "capture" the video.

2) Get a video capture card that would reside in your PC. It would
probably have video-in ports; most lower-end ones require you to
use your audio card for the audio input.

3) If you already have a digital camcorder and a fireware port, your
camcorder may have analog "pass-thru" ports that you can use.

Then, of course, you need software. There are tons of options here.
Windows Movie Maker isn't bad for simple stuff, although it won't work
with all the devices out there. I've had trouble with it.

Depending on your OS and card, there is a very cheap ($25) program
called AVI_IO that does a wonderful job of capturing. It only works
with cards that are supported as "Video for Windows" cards and not
DirectShow cards. Again, that's OS-dependent and a bit of a
complicated topic.

Some cards or devices come with their own software. These packages
vary greatly in quality.

Finally, you can use a high-end package like Adobe Premiere, which may
well be overkill in your situation.

Personal Recommendations
------------------------

Keep in mind, these are largely based on personal experience. You
should research in greater detail any piece of hardware you are
considering.

Most people on r.v.d love the Canopus ADVC100. It connects to a
firewire port and does, I am told, a beautiful job. I plan on
investing in one at some point, but it's $300, so I'm in no rush.

I have two capture cards: an ATI All-in-Wonder 128 Pro and a Pinnacle
Systems Studio DC10+, and here's my take on both of them:

ATI
---

This card is a combination video card/capture/tuner card. It's older
-- you won't find it new anymore, but ATI has newer RADEON-based
versions. I'm not crazy about it. It's software-based, so all
compression happens in software. Your PC should be fast enough and
have enough memory, or you'll drop frames like crazy. The bundled
software is decent for simple capture but doesn't allow you to really
go nuts with tweaking, and the version that my card uses doesn't
communicate useful information. (For example, it tells me that it has
dropped less than 1% frames. Great. Is that 2? 30? 100?) On the
plus side, though, you can capture directly into MPEG or MPEG2 format.
If all you want to do is capture the videos and burn them back out to
DVD or VCD/SVCD, that saves you the annoying step of rendering, and it
saves disk space too.

The ATI features a breakout box with S-Video, RCA video, and audio
inputs, although the audio is just pass-thru: you have to connect an
output cable from the ATI card to the line-in of your sound card.

Pinnacle
--------

I like this card better. It is just a video capture card -- no tuner,
and it's not a video card. It has a hardware MJPEG (motion JPEG)
codec, and I think it captures a cleaner, better image. I find it is
much better about not dropping frames. The bundled software (Pinnacle
Studio) is much nicer than ATI's, and you can do some nice editing
stuff with it. It's very easy to use. Unlike ATI's, it tells you
exactly how many frames you drop.

On the minus side, though, it will ONLY capture in the MJPEG format,
which consumes a lot of space. MJPEG videos are only going to be
viewable on a PC that has this card (or that has installed a software
MJPEG codec). This is fine for editing, because if you want to edit
you need to capture either in MJPEG or a lossless codec like the
freeware HuffyUV. Once you finish edits, you have to render it into
MPEG2 (for SVCD or DVD) or MPEG1 (for VCD). If all you want to do is
capture and burn, it's a bit of a waste.

The Bottom Line
---------------

You need to decide what all you plan to do. My original goal was not
what you're doing but to capture, edit and save home videos and the
like. For that, the DC10+ works great.

If you could post/email your PC's specs, I could give you a lot more
information. Also, feel free to email me (chris dash heer at comcast
dot net) with any questions; I have been spending a LOT of time with
this stuff over the past few months.

--chris

CheetoDust October 6th 03 05:38 PM

In article , Christopher D Heer wrote:
wrote:
On 2 Oct 2003 17:07:21 -0700, (Cobra) wrote:
I would like to connect my DVR510 to my computer so I could burn
movies onto DVD's. I have an open expansion slot and a phone line
connection.


Get a VIVO [video-in-video-out] card. You will also need software to
record [possibly Windows Movie Maker or other 3rd party software].

I've not done this myself but have been looking into it as well.


1) Connect an external device to either a firewire (1394) port or USB
(preferrably 2.0) port. Such a device would have analog video
inputs (RCA plugs, and possibly S-Video). You could connect your
DVR to this and "capture" the video.


I chose this route because I have an iBook with a firewire port on it.
I picked up a ADS VideoLink box from Buy.com for $161. It has done an
excellent job so far. Turns the A/V inputs into DV over the firewire.
The Mac sees it as a camera and pulls the video straight into iMovie
for editing. I can then edit out commercials, etc. on the timeline and
export it as a finished DV stream. I can then drag and drop the DV
stream(s) into Toast and it will convert them and burn DVD, SVCD or
VCD. It does a beautiful job. The only complaint I have is that the
conversion process from DV to DVD takes FOREVER on my 800Mhz G3 iBook.
Presumably, it would be much faster on a G4 or G5. Fortunately, I can
leave my iBook chewing on data for a day and a half without worry of
it crashing and having to start over. My experience with video conversion
of large files on Windows boxes is that they seem to get about 90% done
and then bomb out, making the whole file useless. The laptop also makes
it handy to just bring into the living room, plug into the ADS box/Dish
501, dump the show, unplug, take into other room, plug into FW hard drive
& DVD burner, edit, convert, and burn.

Since I may periodically want to use my burner on my PC, I came
across a really good deal on a FireWire card: $13.20.
(Package2you.com:
http://66.216.68.88. I think someone else snagged
their domain when it expired as the text URL doesn't work anymore.
Good company though. Hope they don't go under because of it.)

The ADS box doesn't come with any Mac software, as iMovie does it
for you. It does come with PC software, though. The software is
Ulead Video Studio 6, and IMO, is the best of the
"included with card" video software that I've used. MGI is all
user interface and not much function. Pinnacle was rather non-
intuitive, at least the version I saw. Ulead 5 took some getting
used to as well, but was okay after a while. The main thing I
liked about Ulead was the import/export flexibility with regard
to formats.

The ADS box also has component inputs (1st digitizer I've seen
with those) and works the other way around to output DV to analog.
I've yet to try either of these functions.

Rambled too long...

....Sean.



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