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Muser User October 1st 03 12:14 AM

Sharing the montly service cost between 4 receivers
 
I'm thinking about signing up with either DirecTV or DishNetwork with
local channels on four receivers, and share the monthly service cost
with other family members. But I have following questions.

1. Will the receiver work at different address? Does the receiver have
to be linked together or with a phone line?

2. Will I be able to receive local channels if I'm located in
different city? The city that I plan on signing up with does offer
local channels, but other family members are in different cities does
not have the local channel option.

3. Between the DishNetwork & DirecTV which one would provide a better
setup for sharing?

4. Does DirecTV or DishNetwork allow people to share? And most
important of all are they able to find out?

5. The other thing is I have a long cabin on a lake, if I sign up
which of the two service would allow me to receive programming in a
cabin that does not have telephone hook-up?

no one in particular®© October 1st 03 04:51 AM


"Muser User" wrote in message om...

(snip)

Sharing and so-called "stealth moving" are verbotten by customer agreement. Not following this is piracy under the law, no
different than hooking up cable across town because you pay for it at another house already. Each residence requires its own
account. Cable does have bulk accounts allowing multiple residence hook-ups but they cost a lot more and have specific restrictions
dependent on the company. Don't know but doubt if DTV or E* would have something similar. Pay the proper price at each place like
other responsible customers.
-Wayd Wolf



Ted October 1st 03 06:23 PM

Im curious about the cabin issue though...

How is it different if you have a reciever in a room, or an rv or in your
cabin? Where do they draw the line?


"no one in particular®©" wrote in message
news:[email protected]

"Muser User" wrote in message

om...

(snip)

Sharing and so-called "stealth moving" are verbotten by customer

agreement. Not following this is piracy under the law, no
different than hooking up cable across town because you pay for it at

another house already. Each residence requires its own
account. Cable does have bulk accounts allowing multiple residence

hook-ups but they cost a lot more and have specific restrictions
dependent on the company. Don't know but doubt if DTV or E* would have

something similar. Pay the proper price at each place like
other responsible customers.
-Wayd Wolf





Gary Tait October 1st 03 11:52 PM

Whereas On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 10:23:17 -0600, "Ted"
scribbled:
, I thus relpy:
Im curious about the cabin issue though...

How is it different if you have a reciever in a room, or an rv or in your
cabin? Where do they draw the line?


If it is a primary residence or not.

"no one in particular®©" wrote in message
news:[email protected]

"Muser User" wrote in message

. com...

(snip)

Sharing and so-called "stealth moving" are verbotten by customer

agreement. Not following this is piracy under the law, no
different than hooking up cable across town because you pay for it at

another house already. Each residence requires its own
account. Cable does have bulk accounts allowing multiple residence

hook-ups but they cost a lot more and have specific restrictions
dependent on the company. Don't know but doubt if DTV or E* would have

something similar. Pay the proper price at each place like
other responsible customers.
-Wayd Wolf




--
Gary J. Tait . Email is at yahoo.com ; ID:classicsat

Teledesic October 2nd 03 06:50 AM

On 30 Sep 2003 15:14:40 -0700, (Muser User) wrote:

I'm thinking about signing up with either DirecTV or DishNetwork with
local channels on four receivers, and share the monthly service cost
with other family members. But I have following questions.

1. Will the receiver work at different address?


Obviously.

Does the receiver have to be linked together or with a phone line?


I'm not familiar with the details of all the systems. Some claim you need to
keep it plugged into the phone line in order to keep your software up-to-date.
Yeah, right. Others say to synchronize your receivers. I think DTV says that
but I am skeptical there is any such need. Most likely they don't want to give
you any ideas! You will note that your agreement with DTV requires all the
receivers to be hooked to the same phone line, no cell phones, and I assume no
call display blocking. Kind of funny that the perfect technology to be
disconnected from any kind of grid is positioned so that it must be connected to
a phone line "at all times!" The only "technical" reason for a phone connection
is in order to report your PPV purchases. The other reason for phone
connections is to discourage sharing additional receivers; hence the same phone
number and no cell phone language. What happens when it becomes popular for
most people to only have cell phones?

2. Will I be able to receive local channels if I'm located in
different city? The city that I plan on signing up with does offer
local channels, but other family members are in different cities does
not have the local channel option.

4. Does DirecTV or DishNetwork allow people to share?


No. Sat companies should be more afraid of this idea catching on than those
trying to get the signal for nothing. The sharing idea is the most reliable,
least hassle, and probably lowest cost. Of course this assumes everyone agrees
on a static package and doesn't want to order any PPV events, just a high end
static package. I talked to a guy doing this with 5 ExpressVu receivers. He
tried to get a 6th but discovered they will only authorize 5 receivers max per
account.

And most important of all are they able to find out?


They get suspicious when your receivers haven't phoned home for awhile. Mmmh,
here is an idea. I wonder what the receivers actually send? Is it encrypted
somehow? Wonder how hard it would be to have a device at your home that could
emulate all the receivers phoning home!?

And of course if anyone in the group other than you actually hooks their
receiver to a phone line they will raise a red flag.

5. The other thing is I have a long cabin on a lake, if I sign up
which of the two service would allow me to receive programming in a
cabin that does not have telephone hook-up?


Probably any of them depending on how long you are up there. The receivers only
need to call home now and then. I believe DTV doesn't have trouble with RVers
but they can only get one receiver and no PPV.

Tyralak October 3rd 03 04:26 PM

"no one in particular®©" wrote in
news:[email protected]:


"Muser User" wrote in message
om...

(snip)

Sharing and so-called "stealth moving" are verbotten by customer
agreement. Not following this is piracy under the law, no
different than hooking up cable across town because you pay for it at
another house already. Each residence requires its own account. Cable
does have bulk accounts allowing multiple residence hook-ups but they
cost a lot more and have specific restrictions dependent on the
company. Don't know but doubt if DTV or E* would have something
similar. Pay the proper price at each place like other responsible
customers. -Wayd Wolf




My, what a high horse you are riding. Let me guess. You're a corprate
whore for Dish?

--
It is by Caffine alone I set my mind in motion.
It is by the beans of Java that the thoughts aquire speed.
The hands aquire shakes, the shakes serve as a warning.
It is by Caffine alone I set my mind in motion.

Tyralak,
Supreme Commander Of The Imperial Romulan Warbird, Psionax

Official ASVS Token Trekkie

Tyralak October 3rd 03 04:45 PM

Teledesic wrote in
:

On 30 Sep 2003 15:14:40 -0700, (Muser User)
wrote:

I'm thinking about signing up with either DirecTV or DishNetwork with
local channels on four receivers, and share the monthly service cost
with other family members. But I have following questions.

1. Will the receiver work at different address?


Obviously.

Does the receiver have to be linked together or with a phone line?


I'm not familiar with the details of all the systems. Some claim you
need to keep it plugged into the phone line in order to keep your
software up-to-date. Yeah, right. Others say to synchronize your
receivers. I think DTV says that but I am skeptical there is any such
need. Most likely they don't want to give you any ideas! You will
note that your agreement with DTV requires all the receivers to be
hooked to the same phone line, no cell phones, and I assume no call
display blocking. Kind of funny that the perfect technology to be
disconnected from any kind of grid is positioned so that it must be
connected to a phone line "at all times!" The only "technical" reason
for a phone connection is in order to report your PPV purchases. The
other reason for phone connections is to discourage sharing additional
receivers; hence the same phone number and no cell phone language.
What happens when it becomes popular for most people to only have cell
phones?


It can't be to synchronize the recievers, other wise your PPV purchases
would work on all receievers instead of just the one you purchased it
on.
--
It is by Caffine alone I set my mind in motion.
It is by the beans of Java that the thoughts aquire speed.
The hands aquire shakes, the shakes serve as a warning.
It is by Caffine alone I set my mind in motion.

Tyralak,
Supreme Commander Of The Imperial Romulan Warbird, Psionax

Official ASVS Token Trekkie

David Levy October 3rd 03 05:59 PM

Tyralak wrote:

My, what a high horse you are riding. Let me guess. You're
a corprate whore for Dish?


Yeah, anyone who fails to advocate criminal theft is a "corprate [sic]
whore."

ric October 3rd 03 09:06 PM

David Levy wrote:

Tyralak wrote:

My, what a high horse you are riding. Let me guess. You're
a corprate whore for Dish?


Yeah, anyone who fails to advocate criminal theft is a "corprate [sic]
whore."


Only when accused by the "Supreme Commander Of The Imperial Romulan
Warbird, Psionax." g

Gary Tait October 3rd 03 09:12 PM

Whereas On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 14:45:22 -0000, Tyralak
scribbled:
, I thus relpy:
can't be to synchronize the recievers, other wise your PPV purchases
would work on all receievers instead of just the one you purchased it
on.
--


It isn'r, it is to acocund for the location of the receivers.
--
Gary J. Tait . Email is at yahoo.com ; ID:classicsat


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