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Jack Zwick October 17th 04 12:44 PM

TiVo saves you money.
 
http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/...tra/P97323.asp



One reporter believes fast forwarding through commercials alone, pays
for TiVo.

Rich Clark October 18th 04 03:27 AM


"Jack Zwick" wrote in message
...
http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/...tra/P97323.asp



One reporter believes fast forwarding through commercials alone, pays
for TiVo.


The time of someone who's stupid enough to watch "The Godfather" on Spike --
and worse, to introduce a newcomer to such a great film by watching it on
Spike -- is not worth very much to begin with.

As for fast-forwarding through commercials: did this guy miss the VCR era
entirely?

RichC



SAC 441 October 18th 04 03:48 AM

A poster named Rich Clark said:
----"As for fast-forwarding through commercials:
did this guy miss the VCR era entirely?"----


Reply:
You do not seem to understand that a TiVo can fast forward 3 times
FASTER (on its' fastest speed) than the fastest CONVENTIONAL VCR.That
is,it can FF at 27 times (as opposed to just 9 for a VCR) the speed of
normal play.Plus,it can 30-second "tick skip" all the way through a
2-hour show in 3-minutes.(Again,something no ordinary VCR can do).Try FF
with a VCR,and you will wait SEVERAL MINUTES just to get to a particular
point on the tape if it is halfway or anywhere near the end.Not to
mention the fact,that there will be "tracking speed" marls on the
tape,which can be distracting.This does not happen with a DVR.Plus,a VCR
cannot do an instantaneous mass deletion of a program either.
A TiVo (DVR) is of a way higher order in function than your ordinary
variety VCR.It does save crucial amounts of viewing time.Why do you
think A.C. Neilsen Company is interested in doing a TiVo study? If I
recall,they were not interested in doing this with a VCR.That's another
thing......for bad or good,TiVo is connected via a weblink,not so a
VCR......


Rich Clark October 18th 04 04:48 AM


"SAC 441" wrote in message
...
A poster named Rich Clark said:
----"As for fast-forwarding through commercials:
did this guy miss the VCR era entirely?"----


Reply:
You do not seem to understand that a TiVo can fast forward 3 times
FASTER


I understand it perfectly well. If you read the referenced article you will
understand my comment.

(on its' fastest speed)


"On its fastest speed." No apostrophe.

RichC



SAC 441 October 18th 04 05:42 AM

Rich Clark stated in a subsequent post:
----"I understand it perfectly well.If you read the referenced article
you will understand my comment."----


Reply:
I DID read that aforementioned referenced article.But YOUR reply did not
make the distinction clear that you understood it.It was a very
ambiguous comment.My apologies for the extra superfluous punctuation.


who-ya October 18th 04 08:06 AM

I got my first VCR in 1981 and the time shift party began then. We rented
videos in the 90s, but time-shifting was always the big attraction. btw, we
do not own a DVD player, so we are among the minority there. Never could
figure out the attraction of watching/owning a movie I'd already seen.
Agreed, now that DVDs come with extra footage, maybe a possibility.... but
still no burning desire to get a player, even with the prices as low as they
are.


"Doug Warner" wrote in message
...
"Rich Clark" wrote:

As for fast-forwarding through commercials: did this guy miss the VCR era
entirely?


No, but most VCR owners use them for playing rented videos, rarely
recording. Everyone I've ever asked "do you regularly record shows on
your VCR for later viewing" have answered no.

Try asking this question at work. You'll find that VCR time-shifters
are / were a rarity. (Which probably explains the slow acceptance of
Tivo.)

Personally, I've used the built-in 8-event timers, then a VCR Plus,
then Videoguide, and finally, Starsight to record shows on my VCR
before Tivo came out.

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Doug Jacobs October 21st 04 06:35 AM

who-ya wrote:
I got my first VCR in 1981 and the time shift party began then. We rented
videos in the 90s, but time-shifting was always the big attraction. btw, we
do not own a DVD player, so we are among the minority there. Never could
figure out the attraction of watching/owning a movie I'd already seen.
Agreed, now that DVDs come with extra footage, maybe a possibility.... but
still no burning desire to get a player, even with the prices as low as they
are.


Most of the DVDs I own are of TV series. That, IMHO, is the real
attraction of DVD - especially with foreign material (British shows, anime
and other Asian cinema...)

With a half-decent A/V setup, watching a movie on DVD in your home can be
just as satisfying as watching it in the theater - if not moreso since you
don't have to contend with kids, cellphones, and worst of all -
commercials. Plus, there's a better selection of refreshments, and the
tickets are free ;)



kw5kw November 11th 04 10:09 PM


"Doug Jacobs" wrote in message
...
: who-ya wrote:
: I got my first VCR in 1981 and the time shift party began then.
We rented
: videos in the 90s, but time-shifting was always the big
attraction. btw, we
: do not own a DVD player, so we are among the minority there.
Never could
: figure out the attraction of watching/owning a movie I'd already
seen.
: Agreed, now that DVDs come with extra footage, maybe a
possibility.... but
: still no burning desire to get a player, even with the prices as
low as they
: are.
:
: Most of the DVDs I own are of TV series. That, IMHO, is the real
: attraction of DVD - especially with foreign material (British shows,
anime
: and other Asian cinema...)
:
: With a half-decent A/V setup, watching a movie on DVD in your home
can be
: just as satisfying as watching it in the theater - if not moreso
since you
: don't have to contend with kids, cellphones, and worst of all -
: commercials. Plus, there's a better selection of refreshments, and
the
: tickets are free ;)

plus, the biggest factor of all:
You can be comfortable, not just setting in those unconfortable seats
at the theater.

:




Dr. Personality November 11th 04 10:55 PM

In article , kw5kw
wrote:

"Doug Jacobs" wrote in message
...
: who-ya wrote:
: I got my first VCR in 1981 and the time shift party began then.
We rented
: videos in the 90s, but time-shifting was always the big
attraction. btw, we
: do not own a DVD player, so we are among the minority there.
Never could
: figure out the attraction of watching/owning a movie I'd already
seen.
: Agreed, now that DVDs come with extra footage, maybe a
possibility.... but
: still no burning desire to get a player, even with the prices as
low as they
: are.
:
: Most of the DVDs I own are of TV series. That, IMHO, is the real
: attraction of DVD - especially with foreign material (British shows,
anime
: and other Asian cinema...)
:
: With a half-decent A/V setup, watching a movie on DVD in your home
can be
: just as satisfying as watching it in the theater - if not moreso
since you
: don't have to contend with kids, cellphones, and worst of all -
: commercials. Plus, there's a better selection of refreshments, and
the
: tickets are free ;)

plus, the biggest factor of all:
You can be comfortable, not just setting in those unconfortable seats
at the theater.



Thanks to rentals and, now, DTV and TiVo, I haven't gone to the movies
since 1991. My wife went with her office mates this year to see some
Harry Potter thing she absolutely had to see, but I didn't go.

I love movies, but I hate audiences.

Frater Mus November 13th 04 07:34 AM

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 at 21:55 GMT, wrote:

Thanks to rentals and, now, DTV and TiVo, I haven't gone to the movies
since 1991. My wife went with her office mates this year to see some
Harry Potter thing she absolutely had to see, but I didn't go.


It's been a couple of years for us. We don't miss it.

I love movies, but I hate audiences.


Exactly so.


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